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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
Even themselves sometimes lose and that's a real thing.

So for one to make the others win, they need to be consistent first with their trades before teaching. But what we're seeing in social medias having these trading gurus.

All they teach you is about the basics and strategies that are based on paper and they don't really execute the trade. While it's a good thing that many learns from them but sometimes, many of them goes to the point that they don't admit their failures or failed trades.
Everyone commits mistakes in trading and is susceptible to losses, and even market experts and trading professionals are not an exception. That is why there's no perfect traders even those crypto influencers in the social media that claimed to be highly successful and profitable traders in the market. This is the very reason why we are not capable to make everyone win in trading, because even ourselves cannot ensure profit consistency.
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Trading is hard and this is a fact that every newbie that is venturing into it must understand, so despite the expertise of the professional trader that is tutoring them, the fact remains that loses happen, even the professionals experience loses in trading.

I agree because professional also have wrong trade, there isn't anybody that can confidently tell you that they haven't lost a trade since they started trading therefore no expertise can make all their students to make profits. For one trader to make profits he has to take the money of others traders because they're selling at a lost or buying. Trading is hard because you can't be using just guessing to win. If you depend on only luck without learning how to trade you'll keep losing. Some traders lose while others win when trading is going on and you can return later to trade then you will win while other traders are losing. After you lose when trading, you don't have to give up but to learn from your mistakes so you don't repeat them or you'll continue losing when you don't learn.
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The crypto market is always very dynamic. As a result, making accurate predictions from here is a fairly difficult task. Those who are experienced traders use their own strategies in trading. As a result, they profit in most cases by trading. But those who are newbies often make wrong decisions while trading. It can be seen that there are newbies who use fake trading signals in trading and they face losses. On the other hand, those who are the right experienced traders understand the issue and avoid losses. You have to keep the loss in mind while trading. You only trade as much money as you can afford to lose.
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I got your points although I was never in the shoes of an expert trader who is educating others or helping others in trades to make them some profit because that's a huge weight on the shoulders of an expert trader. I afraid to take that weight and I try to be so transparent that whenever I give a trading suggestion to anyone, either on the forum or in real life, I don't forget to give a disclaimer that "You will be responsible for the trades, I won't, you should DYOR before executing" Statements like this, can save you from big reputation cases.


Trading is hard and this is a fact that every newbie that is venturing into it must understand, so despite the expertise of the professional trader that is tutoring them, the fact remains that loses happen, even the professionals experience loses in trading. So like you said a professional trader that is tutoring newbies about crypto trading must make them to understand the risks that is involved, that despite your best analysis the market can go against your predictions, these will prove the professionals disclaimer in case their strategies don't work at a perticular time. It's best to trade the amount that you can afford to loose, because of of uncertainties of crypto trading.
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Unfortunately, no. We all have different levels in managing and performing our trades, which means the outcome would definitely not the same. Some will end up losing, while others manage to do their trades rightly and profitably, and I think being patient can do a lot in trading. While others can be very good when it comes to analyzing the market well and predicts whether it’s good to trade or not, but if they lack patience everytime they decide to trade, their trades will definitely end up meaningless and useless.
I like your stance here, and if it is possible for all traders to win due to how the expert traders are teaching and mentoring, that would have long happened. But it hasn't, which means that every trader can't be successful no matter how they try, something will still go wrong. Even the expert traders are facing trading challenges, and there are weeks/months they could fail, and there are some weeks/months they will win as well, it's all about how they put what they know into action and being cautious at the same time. However, one thing that is keeping successful traders outstanding is the way they manage themselves and their trading accounts better. This is why I always say that there is a thin line between a successful trader and a professional trader, and being a professional trader doesn't make you successful. You could be a professional trader because you know everything about trading and are even teaching others. You may also have your book about it that teaches about all that a trader needs to know to be successful, but still not successful.

This hints that the theoretical part is nothing compared to the application, and the real-time application varies depending on our prevailing psychology (balance or not) at that time. The trading psychology that people often underrate matters a lot. Owning to this, traders can fail or become successful in trading despite all they know, but their strategy, management, plans and psychology are important factors. The most common among these that cause traders to fail are management and psychology. Many traders have good trading strategies, but they fail to manage themselves (psychology) and their trading accounts well (risk and money management), that's the issue and it goes a long way in making the traders fail even if they know everything they supposed to know about the market trading. And this explains why you may teach 100 students about trading and only one of them may be successful. It all has to do with the right applications of what you know, or else, the trader will fail.
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

This is not realistic to have a world where every crypto trader is going to make a profit. Trading is a zero sum game, our profit is somebody else's loss. The rapid changing prices means that every day people will see their positions making a profit or a loss. This is still unrealized gains or losses and as long as the position is not sold the money is not realized. But still it won't be possible to have a world where everybody is making profits. The money has to come from somewhere. Also the crypto trading expert themselves are not going to be able to make a profit from every trade. There will always be losing periods, that's just part of the game. The important thing is to make sure that our winnings are larger than our losses.
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No one trades to lose, but everyone is up for profits. However, the trading market itself is unpredictable, one might trade and end with profits while others might lose the process. But this is normal in trading since no one can assure trading profitability most especially that the market itself suddenly changes its position from time to time, making the price more incalculable. Still, a lot of aspirant traders rise everyday because of the promising profits one can experience in trading.

While traders can be in profits or at loss, this is because not all traders have the potentials to trade. Some are just trying hard pretending to be good traders just to satisfy their greed for money, and yet still end up losing their funds. However, others may have been really good in trading not only because they have the knowledge and skills, but most likely they have great experiences in trading that even if a market is unfavorable to trade, they can still find some positive ways to trade just to end their trades successful.
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

Why wont lose? There's no such thing about being a perfect trader on which having no loses on which it would really be not just right that you would really be trying out to be perfect because it would really be just
making you desperate and we do know that desperation wont really be giving something good into someone when it comes to trading. Always accept out those possible risks potential that you might be able to encounter
on which we know that with this unpredictable space, there's no way that you could really be able to make 100% accuracy when it  comes speculation.

You win some You lose some. Outcomes or results would really be entirely be depending on how well you do make yourself making those trades. Not all would really be that profitable
and not all would be successful but doesnt mean that you would really be just trying out to avoid and completely stop due to some few loses. Thing here is that
you do really end up on making yourself profitable despite of those loses. Always keep in mind that trading does have those loses inevitably and never ever
think that trying out to have zero loss because it cant be possible.
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
Even themselves sometimes lose and that's a real thing.

So for one to make the others win, they need to be consistent first with their trades before teaching. But what we're seeing in social medias having these trading gurus.

All they teach you is about the basics and strategies that are based on paper and they don't really execute the trade. While it's a good thing that many learns from them but sometimes, many of them goes to the point that they don't admit their failures or failed trades.
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Unfortunately, no. We all have different levels in managing and performing our trades, which means the outcome would definitely not the same. Some will end up losing, while others manage to do their trades rightly and profitably, and I think being patient can do a lot in trading. While others can be very good when it comes to analyzing the market well and predicts whether it’s good to trade or not, but if they lack patience everytime they decide to trade, their trades will definitely end up meaningless and useless.
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? ~snip~

Well, technically yes but if you ask if I can always make them win? no I can't. Many professional traders or influencers share their tips and tricks on social media and recommend when to buy and when to sell. When they share something like that indirectly they make everyone who follows him will win in their crypto trading if his tips work well. But we never guarantee anything when we follow someone movement even our strategy will often be wrong. Don't be greedy in trading, because greed will only make your profit become losses in just one night especially when you trading altcoins.
It is just like following signal groups where people think it is a sure win but not all the time it works while most of the time it is wrong. Yes, you are right in saying It can't be always as certainly we can't make it perfect. However, making someone win and become profitable lies in the hands of the trader. It is just how they decide on the situation and following others' tricks is sometimes not applicable which means that we need to decide our own.

We have these tips and ideas shared by self-proclaimed expert traders but guess what not all the time they win as well. This is enough to tell us that even following their signals is not a guarantee for success.
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Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?
No, everyone have their experience and capabilities to actually win their trades on trading. Even though you tell them what to do, they have different understandings and the time you teach them how to do it then the market is already changed accordingly. That's just how trade works, some wins and some losses but the way people make it different is how they react to some situations around the market to minimize their lose chance.
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? ~snip~

Well, technically yes but if you ask if I can always make them win? no I can't. Many professional traders or influencers share their tips and tricks on social media and recommend when to buy and when to sell. When they share something like that indirectly they make everyone who follows him will win in their crypto trading if his tips work well. But we never guarantee anything when we follow someone movement even our strategy will often be wrong. Don't be greedy in trading, because greed will only make your profit become losses in just one night especially when you trading altcoins.
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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
The problem is not like that, but because everyone has the free will to decide whether to follow what the expert says or vice versa and not only in trading, even in all parts of life people are free to decide whether to follow or not, and also the expert is not always right, maybe his winning percentage is big but that means he has lost so that is a reference that what he says will not be fully followed by other people, because the traders who follow it also have their own analysis and it is different from the experts and choose to make decisions according to their own analysis.
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They are imparting tips in trading but they are not making decisions on behalf of other traders. I will tell you OP that even having those techniques and ideas from experts doesn't mean you can be like them because it matters in decision-making which we all are different.

Will you believe me saying that I can make you succeed in trading? Maybe you have trust in me but I don't think you are 100% confident that I can do it.
That is quite simple, not just words, tips, strategies, and ideas, or being with these experts makes us succeed but it matters how our minds work.
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The market is a wild beast and no one can tame it. Trading is a matter of momentum, although many experts advise to doing trade or stop, the difference of even a few moments can make a different result.

No one can guarantee what will happen in the market. Therefore, a trader should not depend on other people's ideas because all control is in his hands. He must be able to analyze for himself and decide quickly. Most beginner traders often don't control their emotions and don't have a TA base, so they can't handle on their moves, resulting in the wrong direction.

Trading is an ability that must continue to be honed. Teaching other people who are lazy just will make them blame us. Should you just suggest a book or video so he can learn his own so he has a strong base. Never suggest an actions, just encourage them to learn. That was my mentor's method when he taught me.
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
When you make money, that happens because somebody else loses, we can't have two winners, there is only one winner and the reason why there is only one winner is that there is a loser too as well as there is a loser because there is a winner.
I'll explain to you why everybody can't win in crypto trading. When you buy a coin at 30K, that means that someone got rid of it instead of holding it. When you wait and sell your coins for 50K, that means that someone started holding at 50K, then the price falls, and the ones who bought at 50K wait for a while, price falls down at 40K, 30K, they sell because of panic, then the circle starts over again. That's how trading works Smiley
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I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting  traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.
There are two ways to consider that question, the first way we can ask ourselves that question is if everyone can actually win when they trade? And this is not possible, because you must remember that trading is a zero-sum game in which in order for you to earn money, someone else has to lose it.

The second way to understand that question would be if it is possible at all for anyone to learn how to become a successful trader? And this is impossible too, because even if you were to teach a good strategy to a person, there is no way to be sure if that person will use the strategy as intended, and they may lose money even when using a profitable strategy anyway.
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If that could be possible, then we would be seeing majority of traders are already in profits and never have to suffer from losses, but it’s not what we are seeing now. In fact, there are only few successful traders that are taking trading at its high advantage while majority are still facing inevitable losses due to lack of skills and patience while trading in the market. However, we can always make these traders more motivated to trade and never give up, but we can never give them assurance to keep trading in profits.
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Believe me, even though there are many professional traders out there, they are more likely scams. What I mean is those who advertise themselves in order to offer their services, which is that they will be the ones to trade for you or avail their signals. It's hard to find good professional traders that give signals for free, even if they are not free, because they can turn out to be scams. Anyway, as I said, no matter what professional you follow, the earning or result of your trade depends on the trader's decision. Even if he has a good trading signal, it's up to the trader to execute it or maximise it. It doesn't mean that you have a guide or signal that means you will follow every step from other traders. No, you should be the one who decides. That's why knowledge comes first for a trader, if yoy skip that and concerns in the earning then expect a worst results.
No one can guarantee to make profit in any trading platform and it is natural that even an experienced trader can lose. Moreover, I have never met any wise trader who did not lose. It seems to me that a trader must have a risk-taking attitude before trading. It is true that when one trader gains, others lose. Those who have good calculations and can keep themselves up to date with the trends may be successful in trading.

A skilled trader can do good research, he can be ahead of the game in terms of risk. Experienced traders will definitely be ahead of the inexperienced ones. They can estimate the possible opportunities due to which they can profit to a great extent but are not certain. Even if a trader makes profit today, there is no guarantee that he will definitely make profit tomorrow.
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