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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because,

Cryptocurrency is an individual and personal race and learning from the best Cryptocurrency expert is not a guarantee for one to make a good trade. I think what is important for every trader to succeed in the market is to have interest to learn. When their is no interest, even if you have the best crypto expert as tutor crypto will still be difficult for you.

Cryptocurrency seems to be understanding for people who have put in so much interest to learn it. So I think it is not about the person you are learning from but the energy you put in to learn Cryptocurrency. The reason why most people are finding it difficult in crypto trading is because they feel the little knowledge they have about crypto is enough for them to get the desired trade they wish .

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If everybody win in trading, then who will run at loss. Trading is either you make profit or run at loss, and traders run at loss more than making profit. You can learn from expert traders and think that you have become an expert, but it is when you are in the middle of the market, that you decision decides if you will run at loss or not. You are on your own when you open a trade and that is why no one can make anyone make profit in trading because we are to do it ourselves. It is better that a trader that wants to become better in trading, should only use the amount that you can afford to lose so that you can have the market experience, and come up with your own trading strategy that will work for you.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 14, 2024, 11:53:18 AM

. The question I asked is that can trader expert like you help new traders to achieve profits at once?

There is no professional trader among us who post here regularly, the majority of us trade for fun and I am sure most of us are in the red, too.
If someone - like the newbie trader you mentioned - wants to make a quick bug they usually don't take the hatd path and are willing to learn how to trade. They usually use tools like copy trading or preconfigured trading bots.

Those tools point combined lead me to a clean "no, it's not possible".

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TBH, Your question and your query are irrelevant to each other, you are asking about making everyone win n crypto trading and your observation is that those who sold their coins earlier now have no way to get them back at the same price because the market is already on a much higher point form that point.

I was referring those new traders that trade their crypto when the price pump little and, they feel bad when they saw the price pumping higher above the amount they use to trade in the market. The question I asked is that can trader expert like you help new traders to achieve profits at once? Because I have see some situation where by the experts will be telling the traders not to trade that the market price will pump more in the future but they will follow their own choice to trade and earn different profits with the other traders that follow the instructions of their mentor to earn big profits.

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An investor he invents exponential gains to some limit he already set in his mindset, if gets some clues that the market is moving well and he's already in a good profit range due to fear or greed he books the profit, and if the market continues to gain he'll regret because he's not much skilled and disciplined.

That is what happened to those traders that allowed fear to deceive them to trade with the new price they saw in the market not knowing that the price will still rise higher to this current price but sometimes things like this happen for them to learn lesson from their mistakes so that, they will know how to handle their fear or emotion at the moment.

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TBH, Your question and your query are irrelevant to each other, you are asking about making everyone win n crypto trading and your observation is that those who sold their coins earlier now have no way to get them back at the same price because the market is already on a much higher point form that point.

Now read again carefully and ask yourself does it makes sense, because a trader plays on short or a time frame and the holders or holders play on large time frames mostly zone to zone and sometimes even cycle to cycle. So can you compare the gains and losses directly? Let me elaborate on it more as a trader whether he had a short-time frame trader or a long-time frame trade he always goes with the strategy of a fixed tight or loose range of profit booking and Stops loss if one of them gets hit he exits the market without caring about how the market behaves further after closing his trade, now he'll get back with a new position and new analysis.

An investor he invents exponential gains to some limit he already set in his mindset, if gets some clues that the market is moving well and he's already in a good profit range due to fear or greed he books the profit, and if the market continues to gain he'll regret because he's not much skilled and disciplined.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on February 14, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

You cannot predict the market dude. What you can do is just based on some calculations and historical data we can estimate the price of the coin. As this is an estimation, hence it is not guaranteed that you will make profit everytime. Yes with better estimation and calculation you can reduce the chances of losses. Moreover if everyone making profits in each trade, then all rest people would have followed them and joined trading and making millions now.

The market doesn’t work like that, in trading, if someone makes money, it means that someone loses, these are the laws of the market. It will not be possible to repeat the successes of one trader if he does not share his transactions, I think that successful traders never share their transactions, because for them there is no need for this. And even if he did this, there would still be skeptics who would not follow his example, because all people are different, and they will interpret the same situation differently.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

You answered your own OP question; it's normal that most traders still lose in trading. That's because the market is unpredictable, apart from the volatility of crypto or bitcoin. It's not possible for all traders to win in trading because it can't be called a trading industry if everything happens like that to trader investors, do you understand?

So it is normal that there are other traders who lose in order to balance what happens in the trading industry with what happens in the market.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

In crypto trading, it won't always be possible for everyone to make a profit. Because remember, in crypto trading, we traders seem to be competing with other traders. So every time someone makes a profit, there will definitely be someone out there who makes a loss. We can't make everyone benefit. Because in reality there will always be victims. Even if it is in the same trading signal group. So in reality not all group participants can benefit. There are several factors that cause someone to lose in trading. This could happen due to departure from the initial plan. Panic and excessive fear or because of greed. The point is that there are many psychological factors which of course are different for each person. There are those who are mentally strong and there are those who are not. Some people know risk management well and some don't.

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You cannot predict the market dude. What you can do is just based on some calculations and historical data we can estimate the price of the coin. As this is an estimation, hence it is not guaranteed that you will make profit everytime. Yes with better estimation and calculation you can reduce the chances of losses. Moreover if everyone making profits in each trade, then all rest people would have followed them and joined trading and making millions now.

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Trading is zero sum, everybody cannot win at trading. It’s not how it works. You trade positions and the position either makes money or loses money.

You make money and usually the counter party loses it and that’s how it works. The money isn’t printed out of thin air.

It’s actually less than zero sum since there are commissions, spreads and other fees which are sent to the brokerage or exchange.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?

Wrong question.

You can question yourself that "Can I make every of my trade to be successful (win) in my crypto trading?"

It's impossible because nobody can get 100% successful trading rate.

Back to your question, you can not make trades of other people as successful (win) ones. You are not them, can not control them so it's unrealistic and impossible to help anyone to gain 100% successful rate. Again let's see you can not achieve it with your trades.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

I wonder why some traders are still experiencing losses in their crypto trading upon all the impart professional traders are imparting traders in some trading section to ensure traders know when to trade to win and when not to trade to avoid losses. Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading? I asked this question based on what I heard from some traders that traded their coins early this year, hoping that the price will still return back to low price before they can buy and hodl for the real bull run to occur but this morning price made such traders to lose and, it made me to understand that there is no way you can help everybody to win in their crypto trading because, there are some traders who will be thinking that you are teaching them wrong thing until they experience profits or loss before they will appreciate what you did.

Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

There's no such thing about being a perfect trader or shall we say that we would really to make those profits in every trades we do make. If there's one person or trader into this world something like this then
he's considered to be the richest person in the world.What you say? If trading was easy then majority of people would really going into trading but we've seen its not something that anyone would really be comfortable on dealing with it. Why? Its because its never been that easy and its never been that simple. This is why it would really be always best that you should really be that skillful enough so that you would be able
to survive into this market.

Dont rush up yourself on making those decisions on doing trading.You should assess and study out on every movement or steps you do make. Dont tend to
be having that kind of boost of confidence that you could really be able to do it easily or something that you could be able to do it without any problems because
thats not how it works or goes.

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I think the OP should better differentiate between investments in Bitcoin and trading of the coin. The confusion is that he mentioned trading whereas what he explained looks more like investments. Aside from that, no one can force anyone to do what they do not want to do, that's why it is good to learn what we want to do with our coins and act appropriately and independently. What if the expert advice is based on a condition but the coin did otherwise?

This makes investments independent affairs. But we must learn and understand how to go about it to make profits from it. If anything goes wrong, we should face the music all by ourselves as well, just the way it can be good for us if we are right in the prediction. After all, we are all speculating, no one knows it all.

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A trader cannot profit in all the trades he creates, but this does not mean that trading is something that exposes you to losses, as out of a total of 10 trades, you must have 6 or 7 that achieved profits, otherwise you have to reconsider your trading plan.

What I have proposed here is incomprehensible. This is not trading, but rather shorting in futures contracts. If this is true, it is wrong to do it in a rising market because the chances of the price rising are much higher than its falling, and even on the short level, price correction is always around support points and rarely occurs. It would be very bad, but if your intention is to sell now in the hope that the price will decrease in the future, then this is a long-term investment rather than trading.

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Well, obviously not. Not all are good and capable enough to win their trades as some are still learning the process, or others have still not gained enough confidence to trade and lose their capital. But you can always motivate everyone to pursue on their trading learning and gain experiences in trading. With proper guidance and having positive outlook for trading, I guess in the long run, one will be more successful in trading as long as he never decides to quit due to destructive losses.

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The fact is that the crypto market is very dynamic, and as such, even experts in trading sometimes end in end. The only difference between an expert trader and a newbie is that experts usually have a better strategy that helps them maximize more profit and limit losses, while newbies may not yet have developed good strategies, but both categories of traders do experience losses, so there's no one that can actually make everyone win in their crypto trading. If someone tells you that, be careful so that you don't fall for scammers who are busy promoting their channel all in the name of sharing some fake trading signals.

Any trader who is actually dedicated to practicing how to trade and developing some great strategies can maximize their profit. Although, losses are never evictable in trading.

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Even the most experienced traders cannot guarantee consistent profits for everyone. I think experts can only provide guidance, success in crypto trading often requires a combination of knowledge, experience, and discipline.

Losses are part of the trading process and even experienced traders face challenges. We should approach crypto trading with a realistic mindset, understanding both the potential gains and the associated risks. Continuous learning, adapting to market changes, and maintaining a long-term perspective can contribute to a more sustainable and successful trading experience.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

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Even crypto trading experts cannot make everybody to win or earn big profits from their crypto trading at the same time because, for some traders to wait till the real bull to show up in the market, it will make them to feel they are about to miss the opportunity and it can lead them to loose no matter what you do to help such trader.

Obvious answer. Of course, it's impossible. There's no easy in this world because if the answer here is yes, for sure a lot of people will take advantage and make enough money off of this.
So for me, trading is not easy to we all must learn and have proper knowledge before we start trading because it is risky.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 13, 2024, 01:13:01 PM

...Can you make everybody to win in their crypto trading?..

It doesn't happen that everyone in the market earns money. The cryptocurrency market is not a win-win lottery and in order for someone to make a profit, dozens of traders must lose their money. And if you can't make a profit, try to lose as little as possible using the risk management strategy.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 13, 2024, 04:13:04 PM

Technically yeah, but we also know that it won't happen. I can buy at 1 and sell at 2, you buy at 2 and sell at 3, the other guy buys at 3 and sells at 4 and this keeps going on forever. As we all know that the prices will not go up forever, that requires holding a bit when the price falls, but if the price falls then someone sold and someone bought so it negates. Trading has losses in them and its fine, there is nothing we can do about it, we shouldn't be really worried about it and we should be considering this as normal, there is no reason to just skip through the loss part and just focus on the profit part. You lose, and you win, and in return you sometimes end up with better profit ratio.

i don't think that is possible because how will everybody win in crypto while even those who are winning are still battling with a lot, concerning trading, so every trader always has one challenge or the other, and you have a good point about selling at different prices not everyone can hold to the end because some people might just get small profit and the next thing will be to sell. as the price is going up it will get to a point it will crash so everything about bitcoin is making use of the opportunity which is just two buying and selling that is the two opportunity that crypto has. and if some people should lose does are the things that discourage them from continuing in their trading but it is not supposed to be so if you don't win now you can win later that is bitcoin for you.

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