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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club.
No matter how confident I am about a match, I can never back the confidence with a huge amount of money, which I know is going to affect me if I lose it. I will rather back my confidence with a little amount, which I know in case things go wrong, it’s not really going to affect me. We can't always be right, sometimes we will be wrong, and sometimes gambling is luck. A club that you never expected to win or lose might end up surprising someone. When you are confident about a match, then we should also be smart, don’t gamble blindly.

so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Nobody expected Manchester United to win the match, the result of the match was just shocking, but you should caution your friend. Next time, he shouldn’t be too confident about a match, luck won’t always happen, he shouldn’t get himself into trouble just because he has confidence in his club. If he loses the bet, I don’t really know what condition your friend will currently be in.

I completely agree with all that you have said, at most times people tend to become over confident of club without considering the fact that there is possibilities of player to have fatigue, making him to have low psychology in terms of being 80 percent and above fit for the current game. However confident or over confident should never be a reason for backing up a game with huge amount, because a lot can be happening in the pitch that we don't understand, in as much as we needed to have certain believe of possibilities in terms of our club winning a game we shouldn't bet with an amount we can't afford to lose as gambling gives no guarantee.
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Though I can't really call it foolish move because gambling is a risk which you either win or lose. Whosoever that is not a risk taker can never gamble, though it was a more risky game because from your explanation man united was already losing 0:2 to Liverpool that is why it was possible for the man united odd to have increased to 7odd otherwise it will have reduced to maybe 1.10 odd if man united was wining. So the higher the risk the higher the amount in return.
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.
He did not tell us if he is a core glmaber but he said he staked on his club because they argue who is going to be a winner. Also know that the 5000 may not be $5000 but in local currency that may not have high price like the United States dollar. He can just use the amount of money that he can afford to lose to gamble and which will make him not to be an amateur gambler. Any match can be won. The professional gamblers will go for the best team to win and yet even lose in some matches.

Yeah he is not a core gambler, he just did that out of pure support and confidence in his team which normally would be against professional gambling ethics that would say you shouldn't gamble with over confidence cause you can as well lose your funds and over confidence can cause you to stake higher than you are normally supposed to, but yeah in his case its just a matter of little cash 5000 in my currency woidl just be around 5$ or close to that. So I think think he wasn't notorious at all just over confident and sraked to prove himself.
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Truly a lucky day for OP's friend, tho what he did is super risky and it's rare that someone will do that just to prove to their friends that the team he choose is the right one. it's a good thing he won because otherwise, he'll run out of money, his ego will be trampled.

Oh, I wouldn't say it's rare, actually. I think something like this happens every day on this planet. There are so many people that engage in gambling activity, millions each day, so, I bet some of them doing something similar to OP's friend.

Just like you, I would never bet a huge amount even though I have instincts that I will win if I let this team go. First of all, it is difficult to bet all in because it is risky and secondly, I am not an impulsive type of gambler that I can drop any amount if I want to, my allocated gambling money is limited and I am not yet in point that I can afford to spend a large amount because I don't have that much and if I have, I will put it in my savings and not spend it on my vice.

That's very wise of you, mate. I hope this habit of yours will not change even when you'll be able to afford huge stakes. Don't spend on gambling more than you usually spend on going to a movie theatre or a concert.
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.
Most gamblers don't just know what they want in gambling; staking to win and playing for fun is different from fans love and support for their team.
 
Because I like a particular team, that should also be the reason why I should know more about them and be able to determine if they can win or not. Knowing fully well that they can't win in that match, I will either leave to place a bet on them or I will boldly place a bet on them to lose.
 
It's as simple as that: placing a bet against my fan team does not mean that I do not support them again. I just don't know to what level some people take this fan of a thing to which they can even decide to lose money just to show their support for their team.
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.

You said something that many people should listen to and memorize, because during a football game, for example, we have seen fans of football teams fighting each other and even managing to get seriously injured, all because they can't accept that their teams lost. in the game, and those same fans who were fighting among themselves and were seriously injured are trapped for many months, while the fans who fought are trapped for months, the football players of those teams they are fans of, are in their homes winning a lot of money and they continue to travel and stay in luxury hotels, continue to eat the best food, continue to buy the best luxury cars while the fans who fought are in jail, eating poorly, sleeping poorly without being able to go out and without being able to see their relatives. and people still don't realize this, that the only ones who will suffer when things go wrong are them and not the football players



This is an image that shows how people keep expressing excessive feelings during games and end up doing crazy things because they are fans of the teams and don't think that everything needs to have limits, what did they gain from going to fight on the field? They didn't get anything good. on the contrary, they were arrested, while the football players are free and living their lives well because they were not violent towards anyone. This is the same thing that happens in sports betting, it doesn't make any sense for a person to keep betting money on their team's victory even though they see that this team will lose because they don't play well. It is unacceptable for someone to do this. There are already cases where people have reached an extreme level, something very sad. cases like these:

https://guardian.ng/news/25-year-old-football-fan-commits-suicide-over-betting/

Manchester United Fan Commits Suicide After Weekend Defeat, Says Report

“I confirm that we received the news of a young man who could not stand to see his Manchester United team lose, and instead decided he can die for the sake of a team that is miles far away in Europe.

source: https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/manchester-united-fan-commits-suicide-after-weekend-defeat-says-report-20131209-CMS-90332.html

Nigerian Soccer Fan Commits Suicide After Losing Bet On FC Barcelona

I'm shocked to hear that someone keeps betting money on their team that they're a fan of instead of placing sports bets for fun and on teams that have a greater chance of winning, without putting any feelings into it. people should think about themselves
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club.
No matter how confident I am about a match, I can never back the confidence with a huge amount of money, which I know is going to affect me if I lose it. I will rather back my confidence with a little amount, which I know in case things go wrong, it’s not really going to affect me. We can't always be right, sometimes we will be wrong, and sometimes gambling is luck. A club that you never expected to win or lose might end up surprising someone. When you are confident about a match, then we should also be smart, don’t gamble blindly.

so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Nobody expected Manchester United to win the match, the result of the match was just shocking, but you should caution your friend. Next time, he shouldn’t be too confident about a match, luck won’t always happen, he shouldn’t get himself into trouble just because he has confidence in his club. If he loses the bet, I don’t really know what condition your friend will currently be in.
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
You are right, because good research will make your chances of winning closer and if your friend wins, maybe luck is on his side. However, it is not recommended to continue betting large amounts every time your favorite team plays because it is very risky because anything can happen due to many factors, even if you do very good analysis and research there is no guarantee that you will win again.
I have a favorite team and when my team is going to play against a much better team or my team is in bad form, I will not bet. Because in my opinion we have to know more about the condition of our favorite team, which means we have to think further about betting if the situation is different and not possible, and we also shouldn't force it just because it's our favorite team because that's very risky.
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In gambling you don't allow yourself to be controlled by favouritism, in gambling there no preferred team, you don't bring your team in because you might lose if you bet in your preferred club side, over confidence does not play in gambling, the whole process is based on your luck level, I have seen teams with a very small odd losing to teams with Tinny odd, so if you select your club you should have an open mind to expect two different events, either you lose or you win, no matter how good a club is, you can only predict their encounter with other clubs but you can't be very sure of their winning or losing, in gambling dont be too sure.

Obviously, when you gamble with club sentiment you will lose. Know when winning is not in your team's favour and then avoid gambling. Gambling involves money and so a gambler shouldn't be by sentiment. No matter how informed a team is, there are days such team will lose and so it will be in the interest of a gambler to gamble reasonably. Don't gamble because you support a team and you believe in the team and so you exceed your gambling limit. Gambling should be approached with caution because it is an adventure capable of taking everything you have. I am an Arsenal fan and I am so unfortunate that each time I add Arsenal to my selection, I always lose the bet.

Since this is my reality, I cannot stake my all in my club. In fact, it is risky to place your all during a gambling session due to the fact that nothing is certain in gambling. Gambling is a game of risk and so it is very unpredictable making it very easy to lose than to win.
Personally, I see any ganbler that bet on his club because of favourism even when his team is weak, as a biased gambler. He is not gambling to enjoy the fun, but gambling to show that he does not bother to throw his money away on his club just tje show that he loves his club. Or maybe he is doing it to deceive people that he is a die hard fan of his club. The rea8why I said so is that even though, we are gambling for fun, we decided to gamble to see if we can win the casino's money  and not gambling to enrich them. No true gambler would bet on a weak club, because he wants to win and be happy with his bet. Winning brings out the best fun.
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Analysis should really be applied and dont make yourself that having that involvement on having such attaching those emotions of yours on the time that you would really be doing some betting.
We do know that we do have our own favorites but doesnt mean that you would really be just making those blind bets or simply trying out to keep it straight into them just because you are a fan.
If you are really that betting on them to show up some support then its up to you but most bettors wouldnt really be attaching any emotions on which betting up blindly even if its
obvious that their team that they do like is really at disadvantage but well when it comes to betting then it would really be something that will be depending on you.
Its none others business on which one you would be betting into or which one you would really be liking on to choose.
Gambling that involves emotions is riskier than normal gambling, you have the will to gamble on something that you know will not get results as expected but the emotional factor has forced you to gamble with high stakes, all gamblers have a list of favorite clubs but they also consider the bets to get a win by analyzing the history of the last few matches to ensure their favorite club can win the next match.

However, I am happy that he won that bet but that gambling behavior is not to be imitated because he ignores control in gambling, someone should remind him to keep the winnings and he should gamble carefully before he loses all the winnings he has earned.
Once you do lose that control then it would something that will in result into loses or something that might go ahead further on which it would really be depending up on how well you do really make yourself do handle
when it comes to this aspect. There would really be a couple of factors on which could affect your decision making and just like on what lanatsa said above that if you are getting involvement with your emotions
on which you are ignoring those basic information or facts in between teams then you are just basically doing bets basing up with your emotion and this is something not that ideal.

When betting on sports then we do really have indeed our favorites but just like you said that if you are really that going after for making profits then you wont really be that
making yourself that basically blind on who do have the upperhand and who do have that disadvantage. So it would be always your call at the end.
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Analysis should really be applied and dont make yourself that having that involvement on having such attaching those emotions of yours on the time that you would really be doing some betting.
We do know that we do have our own favorites but doesnt mean that you would really be just making those blind bets or simply trying out to keep it straight into them just because you are a fan.
If you are really that betting on them to show up some support then its up to you but most bettors wouldnt really be attaching any emotions on which betting up blindly even if its
obvious that their team that they do like is really at disadvantage but well when it comes to betting then it would really be something that will be depending on you.
Its none others business on which one you would be betting into or which one you would really be liking on to choose.
Gambling that involves emotions is riskier than normal gambling, you have the will to gamble on something that you know will not get results as expected but the emotional factor has forced you to gamble with high stakes, all gamblers have a list of favorite clubs but they also consider the bets to get a win by analyzing the history of the last few matches to ensure their favorite club can win the next match.

However, I am happy that he won that bet but that gambling behavior is not to be imitated because he ignores control in gambling, someone should remind him to keep the winnings and he should gamble carefully before he loses all the winnings he has earned.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

Let's suppose your friend had lost his bet on that day. Would be coming here and asking whether it was a sensible or a foolish move. For sure, you would have said that it was a foolish move and even your friend would have been regretting on his decision. But since he was lucky to win this one, he must be very confident telling everyone that he has accomplished something extraordinary. So you are also confused on this surprise win and asking if this is a good move.

Remember do not fall for these wins as they come rarely. In most cases, people will just lose these insane bets which can ruin their life on the loss. If you want not to be hurt by gambling and betting, it's important to gamble with the risk management plan and avoid these emotional decisions of going "all in" will make you poorer one day.
When evaluating a decision we must always take into account all the possible scenarios that can occur, sometimes when we see someone doing something crazy and getting away with it, we may be compelled to try to do the same, but once you begin to think about it and you realize how unlikely it was for that person to get that possible outcome, then it is easy to realize that such an action was a mistake and we must not imitate that person as it is unlikely we will be that luckily.
Analysis should really be applied and dont make yourself that having that involvement on having such attaching those emotions of yours on the time that you would really be doing some betting.
We do know that we do have our own favorites but doesnt mean that you would really be just making those blind bets or simply trying out to keep it straight into them just because you are a fan.
If you are really that betting on them to show up some support then its up to you but most bettors wouldnt really be attaching any emotions on which betting up blindly even if its
obvious that their team that they do like is really at disadvantage but well when it comes to betting then it would really be something that will be depending on you.
Its none others business on which one you would be betting into or which one you would really be liking on to choose.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

Let's suppose your friend had lost his bet on that day. Would be coming here and asking whether it was a sensible or a foolish move. For sure, you would have said that it was a foolish move and even your friend would have been regretting on his decision. But since he was lucky to win this one, he must be very confident telling everyone that he has accomplished something extraordinary. So you are also confused on this surprise win and asking if this is a good move.

Remember do not fall for these wins as they come rarely. In most cases, people will just lose these insane bets which can ruin their life on the loss. If you want not to be hurt by gambling and betting, it's important to gamble with the risk management plan and avoid these emotional decisions of going "all in" will make you poorer one day.
When evaluating a decision we must always take into account all the possible scenarios that can occur, sometimes when we see someone doing something crazy and getting away with it, we may be compelled to try to do the same, but once you begin to think about it and you realize how unlikely it was for that person to get that possible outcome, then it is easy to realize that such an action was a mistake and we must not imitate that person as it is unlikely we will be that luckily.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

When it comes to reconciling energy with prudent financial decisions in the gambling industry, I believe there are a few things to consider. First and foremost, create and adhere to a schedule. Determine how much money you are willing to lose and do not exceed that amount. Second, do not allow your emotions guide your decisions. It's easy to get caught up in the anticipation of a game and risk more than you are capable of losing. Third, make sure you understand the chances and don't place bets based just on emotional impulses. While emotion and enthusiasm are vital components of sports betting, they should not be the only variables you should consider. You should also utilize logic and reason when making judgments regarding how to bet. If you find yourself becoming overly focused on the money component of betting, it may be time to take a step back and reconsider your objectives.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

Let's suppose your friend had lost his bet on that day. Would be coming here and asking whether it was a sensible or a foolish move. For sure, you would have said that it was a foolish move and even your friend would have been regretting on his decision. But since he was lucky to win this one, he must be very confident telling everyone that he has accomplished something extraordinary. So you are also confused on this surprise win and asking if this is a good move.

Remember do not fall for these wins as they come rarely. In most cases, people will just lose these insane bets which can ruin their life on the loss. If you want not to be hurt by gambling and betting, it's important to gamble with the risk management plan and avoid these emotional decisions of going "all in" will make you poorer one day.
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.
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True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
It's really better to become neutral in terms of giving advise for someone that's already addicted or going onto that point. You don't have to trigger them just because they're a fan or not because if you do, what if they bet with their life savings and they eventually lose? you might even be blamed for that because you're the one who dared them to do it.
That's why, I'd avoid this kind of argument with my friends just to prove that they're a real bettor or fan of a club or sports.

Yes because the problem is that they have entered the addiction phase which is the worst phase in gambling because there are a lot of problems that they will experience when the level of interest in gambling is quite high, but I think giving advice that is suggested or that is neutral depends on the person too, or the point is that maybe the person who will give the advice does not know about the dangers of the bad effects of treating gambling in the wrong way.

I think if for example the situation is that the person giving the advice is someone who doesn't really understand the dangers of gambling if done in an excessive way then of course there is a possibility for them to still advise their friend to bet a high amount and we can conclude that these are two typical people who are too focused on winning and don't have a true understanding of what gambling really is, the impact is that maybe the person who gets the advice will feel like he is fully supported to really bet a large amount. On the other hand I can't really blame his friend because after all their ignorance about the dangers of gambling is the problem, but if the opposite in the sense that you know about the various bad effects that exist in gambling but you advise others to act aggressively then yes clearly you are someone who supports others to get into big trouble.
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This is another mistake some gamblers make by playing gamble in working hours, and one of the simplest truth to this matter is that, those who can't resist but to play gamble on working hours are actually addicted. It might not be severe but they are addicted because they no longer have control over their emotions, hence gamble can even make them do certain things that they ought not to do and they just concur just because of the desperation they have in satisfying that inner thought. However I have never tried it before because I know how gamble could change your emotion if you experience too much loss irrespective of using a specific amount for gambling only. My work is currently the only steady source of income and I wouldn't like to mess things for my self by letting gamble change my emotion and action around my working environment.
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I don't think you should bet big on a match just because you have a lot of confidence in the outcome of that match. This confidence may be false. As a rule, we all know stories about people who won large sums, relying only on their intuition or confidence based on personal preferences or beliefs. This is very far from the correct game system. The game should be based on clear patterns, and not on faith. Over the long haul, overconfidence will most likely bankrupt you. I would say that we must first consider the facts that contradict our belief. When we carefully study these facts, we will be forced to come to a more balanced point of view.

I agree, I think betting big amounts is always a bad idea, regardless of your confidence or whatever. I would never bet such money even if I thought the of me winning was 99%. However, the OP's friend won his bet and now we have nothing else to do but congratulate him. Good job! As we usually say when some wins his risky bet, good job!

Truly a lucky day for OP's friend, tho what he did is super risky and it's rare that someone will do that just to prove to their friends that the team he choose is the right one. it's a good thing he won because otherwise, he'll run out of money, his ego will be trampled. Just like you, I would never bet a huge amount even though I have instincts that I will win if I let this team go. First of all, it is difficult to bet all in because it is risky and secondly, I am not an impulsive type of gambler that I can drop any amount if I want to, my allocated gambling money is limited and I am not yet in point that I can afford to spend a large amount because I don't have that much and if I have, I will put it in my savings and not spend it on my vice.
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