Topic: Can you stake it all put of over confidence in your club - page 9. (Read 1429 times)

I have been placing bets/gambles on sports betting for quite a long time, of course I have a favorite club/team that I aspire to, but in my understanding, favorite clubs and betting are two different factors, they cannot be combined, Gambling with idols is a different matter, you can idolize one or two clubs, but it cannot be used as a basis for betting, it could have fatal consequences.

Trust in the club, cannot guarantee that they will win the game, this is caused by many factors, therefore betting is based on field conditions, analysis, as well as against the club's opponents, It could be that the club we trust can be defeated by the opposing club, this often happens, look at the condition of our club and the opposing club, don't rely on that club as a trust so that you ignore the opposing club.

Your friend is a die hard fan of his club, and he has confidence in them, that was why when Liverpool was winning he still had the gut to stake against them. He is lucky enough to have won the bet, because nobody believed that United will turn the game around to their favor.

This is one thing with gambling, no one knows when our luck will shine and that is why we should not be overconfident in our bets, and use the amount of money that we can afford to lose, so that whatever is the outcome of our bet, we will be just fine. Your friend never expected that Manchester united would win the game, but it worked out for him because of the passion that he has for his club.

Having much confidence in a particular team iss not the best , because football is unpredictable and if you are to stake on the best team to win, it is better to stake with the amount that you can afford to lose because nothing is certain.  Sport, gambling are unpredictable and sometimes winning happens as a result of luck.  Their is nothing wrong staking your for your favourite team to win but it is important for one to play with a lower amount, because you are staking on the best team to win it doesn't mean you game will end up to win which will make one to play with an excessive amount that you can't afford to lose.

The question would be if your friend would do that for another team, for the sake of gambling. However, that's patriotism and passion for his team. Personally, I wouldn't do that considering the analysis of Liverpool players, it'll be hard to accept that they'll lose out on the game. And Man-U his team has been performing under average recently, which isn't the right decision for anybody. His instinct was quite right and accurate, thereby, igniting the feeling in him to do that next time. Gambling is fun when supporting our team, regardless of how down bad for scores they are on the pitch. But we all need to do that sparingly so, as not to end up losing all our funds. One may have seen that and would want to try it out. Which is a bad idea.

I could remember friends being laughed at for betting against their team. That's wrong from the perspective of other gamblers. Yet, if one feels his team wouldn't win, he can stake against them and win. Instead of ending up feeling sad about the game, entirely. The team lost and his money was gone. So, players shouldn't be blinded to wager only in favor of their team. They also need to check the strength of the other team before wagering lots of money. That doesn't change the fact we are a fan of the team. It's just what people around us would say and laugh over it, but what matters is our emotions and money. Being real to the game, and not just picking sides, even when they're losing.

Regardless of what he believes and the actions he takes if it is based on personal analysis and uses the money he can afford to lose in one match in my opinion it doesn't matter, however the decision he makes is in accordance with his wishes and his ability to bet. but yes the amount of 5k for most people is not a small amount, but if for him it is ready to lose it in one session of the favorite team's match, in my opinion it doesn't matter what, even if $100k you bet, as long as it is with personal readiness and the money is a small portion of his money per month from what he earns.

You have to ask a community about this bad decision, this type of wrong decision has already been discussed before in other threads, it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's a wrong decision,

In fact, I saw that entire match, It's as always with LP matchs, you have to wait for the final whistle

I believe he believes on the team that it will really win despite the setback on score. Loving a team and believing that it will win is a different thing. Believing to the team means you are assured to their potential that they will win the game due to their player skills is better than the opponent.

Loving a team is just like tossing a money just for self satisfaction of imaginary supporting them through the bets which on this case the friend really believe on the bet since he place bets on a low chance of winning scenario on this match.

This is the difference of having a good skills on analyzing to just being a fan boy.

Actually there are people who love staking on a game like that, however your friend had already seen the determination of Manchester United and chances of wining that's why he was that confidence to bet on them and also I don't think betting on them was because of the passion he has for Manchester United but was because of the possibility he saw on that match that was actually what propelled him to stake the bet, also perhaps the money was not much of a good use to him that's why he decided to take the bet but I don't think passion was his motivator because is very difficult for someone to use there hard earned money to stake on a club they knows that will lose, however in terms of having confident on a particular match sometimes could work out because irrespective of how difficult it is to be certain about a particular club but there are some matches that we can say wining is certain so most people use it as an opportunity to stake all they have in other to have a good return.

Your friend was pretty lucky to have won, if not he took a big risk. Although I feel he was just trying to prove to you how much he love Manchester United his club. I guest he didn't mind losing the money for love of his club. but if it where to be me I would not try such a thing, what if Liverpool continues beating them maybe 0.4, in the end he would have lost it all and still become ashamed of his club for disgracing him, while he was the one that took the betting to another level.

Both you and your friend made a wrong move in this situation. If anything negative had happened, you are responsible for it because you push him to prove his confidence on his team and he prove his confidence in the wrong way. Responsible gambling is everyone's responsibility and if your close relatives or friends engage in reckless gambling, you can do all you can to help them but you did the opposite here. The amount is not too much to lose even if he lost the bet but the manner in which he gamble with the 5k is very inappropriate. There is nothing you can tell me to convince me, that's obviously a blind risk with no calculation and would be definitely regreted if he lost the bet. There's no fun in proving someone wrong in gambling.

We won't agree to see anything wrong about his action and that's because the outcome was a favourable one, he won and that's what every gambler what to hear. Justifying a stupid action because the results out of luck turned out to be fine is not proper. We should also look at the other side of it, how probably he lost it on staking that amount the story here would have been a different one but instead a lot of persons are praising him for taking an uncalculated risk

I'm a Liverpool fan, and it was very painful for me to see this result in the end:



However, your post has truly brought joy to my heart. Seeing firsthand how someone has benefited greatly from it has been immensely uplifting.

Was it a foolish move? Maybe. But it's especially satisfying when we win due our foolish moves, innit?

It will only be a foolish move if he cannot afford what he is about to lose. I guess your friend also knows what he is doing and he ain't just a fan. He won! Just be happy about it and don't question him.
There are gamblers who just like to be praised whenever they win, maybe that's all he needs for now.
Look, there are also gamblers who bet higher than those amounts, will we also call them foolish? He took the risk, I think that's a courageous thing to do and he probably has more money because he is confident with his bet.

In sports, it's okay to do that rather than wasting the same amount in casino games where your chances to win are very low. Even if you divide that number by 1000 and play casino games that long, you won't get as much as double your capital in just a short span of time, or worse you will never. It's not easy. And, you cannot bet just once going for all in because the chances to hit a low multiplier or a zero is damn high.

It depends if you're a risk-taker and it doesn't bother you betting a huge amount of money out of fun and in support of your favorite team, but if you're gambling based on your allocation, it's not a good idea, it's blind loyalty and blind loyalty is not good if you're not a VIP or do not have enough money to throw away.

It's fun betting out of loyalty and challenging yourself if your favorite club can do an upset, you should be ready for the outcome if that's your choice.

That particular game between Manchester United and Liverpool result was so unpredictable, if you're friend had placed a bet in favour of Manchester United to win that game then he must be a genius to come to that conclusion. When people become too emotionally attached to the club they are fanning, they do things without emotional intelligence and that they say is the beauty of the game. For me that was not too much of a wise decision your friend took, but however this is gambling, the higher the risk the higher the reward, and so far he has benefited from the risk he took.

Your friend is a loyal fan of Manchester United and he proved it by supporting the club even when it seems they will lose the game. For me, gambling is not an avenue show my loyalty or support to my club because money is involved. My prediction will be based on my analysis and not loyalty. If I suspect that my club will not perform well in a game I will not stake on them. Your friend was just fortunate to win the game because everyone had already concluded that Liverpool would win the game.

His action is not recklessness but he just had fun by taking a risk that is within his capacity. There are times when your analysis will fail because gambling is unpredictable. The guy simply took a risk and don't also forget that he won the game. OP didn't also tell us that he gambled with what he cannot afford to lose which means he is not an irresponsible gambler.

Gambling is like that and experienced gamblers understand it that way so they can take risk that you don't believe at any time and that could appear foolish in the eyes of non gamblers or doesn't gamblers that can't take such risk. Usually to gamble that way in a losing position, the gambler sees the money he is about to stake as a sacrifice that he has made.

Therefore it takes courage to gamble and to know that you already have slim chance to win is something not every gambler can do. So regards to your friend, I don't think it is just about his team Manchester united but either because he has studied the game and sees that the losing team is making good efforts at the game but only has not gotten there, so he had to bet on it. And as we know in football, they say it is not over until the final whistle from the referee is blown. He carried the day because he bet as sacrificing his money and that is the spirit some use to win unexpected bets.

A foolish bet is when you bet without doing an analysis and the money you're using comes from your allowance or savings, whether it is a small amount or a big amount of money as long as you are comfortable with the outcome, it is ok to trust your favorite club and hope that they win in every game but it's not right in my opinion to bet money if your favorite has no chance to beat the other team.
It's ok if the chance is 50/50 with prayer and luck your team can win the game and multiply your earnings, I consider it throwing money if your favorite team has a slim chance to win, we should be practical when betting you're an average income earner, you can only do so if you're like Drake or Bruno Mars it's ok to guys like them to throw money because they have a way to recover money that they've loss.

Exactly, there's nothing wrong with staking a huge amount in betting as long as you are sure or you have confidence in your decision or betting, because staking a very huge amount of money in one bet or stake is unavoidable and it is sometimes unavoidable, but if you will let your loyalty take over then expect that you might stumble a big loss, that's why I don't believe in loyalty bet, wherein you will bet in your favourite team even you know that they have a least chances of winning against their opponent, I have a team that I fandom in NBA, but I don't always bet on them especially if it is clear that they are disadvantage against the other team, yes money is money, so why would I bet if I know I will lose right? So yeah, I'm willing to bet a huge amount as long as I know that the team I will stake on has a greater chance of winning.

I would only do it if it's a sure win. That kind of bet by your friend is not 90 percent of a win but he was lucky it went his way. It's foolish and that's because he is using his emotion to gamble. But it turned out fine for him and who knows, he might repeat it and make a mistake next time.
Never gamble with your emotion. That's one of the rules of gambling because most of the time it goes the other way.
He is a big fan so he would do that, I am a fan of a team too but will not be fool enough to put a huge sum of money just for it. I'd rather watch the game and cheer for them than be stressed while watching the game because a lot of money is in the line.