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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

Let's suppose your friend had lost his bet on that day. Would be coming here and asking whether it was a sensible or a foolish move. For sure, you would have said that it was a foolish move and even your friend would have been regretting on his decision. But since he was lucky to win this one, he must be very confident telling everyone that he has accomplished something extraordinary. So you are also confused on this surprise win and asking if this is a good move.

Remember do not fall for these wins as they come rarely. In most cases, people will just lose these insane bets which can ruin their life on the loss. If you want not to be hurt by gambling and betting, it's important to gamble with the risk management plan and avoid these emotional decisions of going "all in" will make you poorer one day.
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.
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True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
It's really better to become neutral in terms of giving advise for someone that's already addicted or going onto that point. You don't have to trigger them just because they're a fan or not because if you do, what if they bet with their life savings and they eventually lose? you might even be blamed for that because you're the one who dared them to do it.
That's why, I'd avoid this kind of argument with my friends just to prove that they're a real bettor or fan of a club or sports.

Yes because the problem is that they have entered the addiction phase which is the worst phase in gambling because there are a lot of problems that they will experience when the level of interest in gambling is quite high, but I think giving advice that is suggested or that is neutral depends on the person too, or the point is that maybe the person who will give the advice does not know about the dangers of the bad effects of treating gambling in the wrong way.

I think if for example the situation is that the person giving the advice is someone who doesn't really understand the dangers of gambling if done in an excessive way then of course there is a possibility for them to still advise their friend to bet a high amount and we can conclude that these are two typical people who are too focused on winning and don't have a true understanding of what gambling really is, the impact is that maybe the person who gets the advice will feel like he is fully supported to really bet a large amount. On the other hand I can't really blame his friend because after all their ignorance about the dangers of gambling is the problem, but if the opposite in the sense that you know about the various bad effects that exist in gambling but you advise others to act aggressively then yes clearly you are someone who supports others to get into big trouble.
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This is another mistake some gamblers make by playing gamble in working hours, and one of the simplest truth to this matter is that, those who can't resist but to play gamble on working hours are actually addicted. It might not be severe but they are addicted because they no longer have control over their emotions, hence gamble can even make them do certain things that they ought not to do and they just concur just because of the desperation they have in satisfying that inner thought. However I have never tried it before because I know how gamble could change your emotion if you experience too much loss irrespective of using a specific amount for gambling only. My work is currently the only steady source of income and I wouldn't like to mess things for my self by letting gamble change my emotion and action around my working environment.
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I don't think you should bet big on a match just because you have a lot of confidence in the outcome of that match. This confidence may be false. As a rule, we all know stories about people who won large sums, relying only on their intuition or confidence based on personal preferences or beliefs. This is very far from the correct game system. The game should be based on clear patterns, and not on faith. Over the long haul, overconfidence will most likely bankrupt you. I would say that we must first consider the facts that contradict our belief. When we carefully study these facts, we will be forced to come to a more balanced point of view.

I agree, I think betting big amounts is always a bad idea, regardless of your confidence or whatever. I would never bet such money even if I thought the of me winning was 99%. However, the OP's friend won his bet and now we have nothing else to do but congratulate him. Good job! As we usually say when some wins his risky bet, good job!

Truly a lucky day for OP's friend, tho what he did is super risky and it's rare that someone will do that just to prove to their friends that the team he choose is the right one. it's a good thing he won because otherwise, he'll run out of money, his ego will be trampled. Just like you, I would never bet a huge amount even though I have instincts that I will win if I let this team go. First of all, it is difficult to bet all in because it is risky and secondly, I am not an impulsive type of gambler that I can drop any amount if I want to, my allocated gambling money is limited and I am not yet in point that I can afford to spend a large amount because I don't have that much and if I have, I will put it in my savings and not spend it on my vice.
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I don't think you should bet big on a match just because you have a lot of confidence in the outcome of that match. This confidence may be false. As a rule, we all know stories about people who won large sums, relying only on their intuition or confidence based on personal preferences or beliefs. This is very far from the correct game system. The game should be based on clear patterns, and not on faith. Over the long haul, overconfidence will most likely bankrupt you. I would say that we must first consider the facts that contradict our belief. When we carefully study these facts, we will be forced to come to a more balanced point of view.

I agree, I think betting big amounts is always a bad idea, regardless of your confidence or whatever. I would never bet such money even if I thought the of me winning was 99%. However, the OP's friend won his bet and now we have nothing else to do but congratulate him. Good job! As we usually say when some wins his risky bet, good job!
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
I know there are clubs that you have confidence in but somtimes over confidence will disappoint you one day.  But the clubs you don't even trust are the once that will deliver. When it comes to gambling you don't trust. Just play your game and expect to win. And don't put to much expectations in winning. There actually games you know that they can win but if you playing games like that you have to be very careful when staking. Before you go and give  Manchester City a straight win and the next thing you are disappointed Because don't be surprised that they will play draw or even lose to that club. Everything about gambling is based on luck. Don't follow other people's win or you might just lose money. Just do your thing your self.
I have favorite teams like many players, but I understand that betting and favorite team are absolutely incompatible things and there is no need to connect them. If we bet on our favorite team and know that it will lose, then this is called donating our money. If there is anyone ready to take such a step, then for what exactly, there must be a solid reason for such a losing event. This is a rather blind act that almost no one will appreciate except the one who bets, and if he does it constantly, then nothing good will happen to his wallet.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.

True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
It's really better to become neutral in terms of giving advise for someone that's already addicted or going onto that point. You don't have to trigger them just because they're a fan or not because if you do, what if they bet with their life savings and they eventually lose? you might even be blamed for that because you're the one who dared them to do it.
That's why, I'd avoid this kind of argument with my friends just to prove that they're a real bettor or fan of a club or sports.
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
I know there are clubs that you have confidence in but somtimes over confidence will disappoint you one day.  But the clubs you don't even trust are the once that will deliver. When it comes to gambling you don't trust. Just play your game and expect to win. And don't put to much expectations in winning. There actually games you know that they can win but if you playing games like that you have to be very careful when staking. Before you go and give  Manchester City a straight win and the next thing you are disappointed Because don't be surprised that they will play draw or even lose to that club. Everything about gambling is based on luck. Don't follow other people's win or you might just lose money. Just do your thing your self.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Confidence in a match is limited to anything that can happen that is beyond prediction. Regarding other beliefs such as winning large amounts of money on bets is unthinkable.
The Manchester United vs Liverpool match which took place in the last week before the international break is part of what I believe. For me, Manchester United were just lucky despite the fact that they were able to beat Liverpool in extra time.

And for me, my friend, you are very lucky because many observers didn't believe Manchester United won before the match started because of Man United's inconsistent factors.
Just look at how euphoric they were over the victory, as if they had won a match that made them lift the trophy.
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
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In gambling you don't allow yourself to be controlled by favouritism, in gambling there no preferred team, you don't bring your team in because you might lose if you bet in your preferred club side, over confidence does not play in gambling, the whole process is based on your luck level, I have seen teams with a very small odd losing to teams with Tinny odd, so if you select your club you should have an open mind to expect two different events, either you lose or you win, no matter how good a club is, you can only predict their encounter with other clubs but you can't be very sure of their winning or losing, in gambling dont be too sure.

Obviously, when you gamble with club sentiment you will lose. Know when winning is not in your team's favour and then avoid gambling. Gambling involves money and so a gambler shouldn't be by sentiment. No matter how informed a team is, there are days such team will lose and so it will be in the interest of a gambler to gamble reasonably. Don't gamble because you support a team and you believe in the team and so you exceed your gambling limit. Gambling should be approached with caution because it is an adventure capable of taking everything you have. I am an Arsenal fan and I am so unfortunate that each time I add Arsenal to my selection, I always lose the bet.

Since this is my reality, I cannot stake my all in my club. In fact, it is risky to place your all during a gambling session due to the fact that nothing is certain in gambling. Gambling is a game of risk and so it is very unpredictable making it very easy to lose than to win.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.

True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
I wouldn't do like your friend, because it's widely said to not put all your eggs on the same basket. And in your friend's case, he did it with most chances against him, just to place a bet on the club he is a fan. Luckly this time it ended well for him, and he made big profit from his bet, however it could have happened the opposite, and if he continues placing similar bets futurely, at some point he will start facing losses on long run.

On the scenario he is sticking to his gambling budget exclusively, it's not really a big issue if he is losing money or not. Although it can be a better idea to diversify the portfolio among more different bets, while adopting another criteria of which teams and players to pick besides betting only on the club of his heart.
His money His rules and there's nothing we can do about that and this is where some people do really have those kind of support when it comes into their teams that they do come up into such state
that they would really be going all in with their bets despite its pretty obvious that they are at disadvantage or in verge of losing. Also going all in without having that kind of consideration and analysis is never been that ideal.Making betting should be wise because we arent here on just trying out to show some support into the team/club. We are here on making up bets to make profits of course at
the same time you are really that having some fund.

Overconfidence is something a behavior on which it would really be something that could put up in trouble and this is something that you should really be that
trying out to lessen or minimize because if you wont really be able to put up some analysis then most likely your bets would be on lesser winning chance.
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
I wouldn't do like your friend, because it's widely said to not put all your eggs on the same basket. And in your friend's case, he did it with most chances against him, just to place a bet on the club he is a fan. Luckly this time it ended well for him, and he made big profit from his bet, however it could have happened the opposite, and if he continues placing similar bets futurely, at some point he will start facing losses on long run.

On the scenario he is sticking to his gambling budget exclusively, it's not really a big issue if he is losing money or not. Although it can be a better idea to diversify the portfolio among more different bets, while adopting another criteria of which teams and players to pick besides betting only on the club of his heart.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.
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I know we like our teams and all, but I have a friend that does exactly opposite of this instead Cheesy. He is a LFC fan, and he wagers on City win a lot of money. His thought is that either City will lose and make him happy, or they will win and make him richer Cheesy. That's not half a bad idea, if he bets on Liverpool to win then it would mean that if Liverpool wins, he is double happy because both his team won and he earned money, but if LFC loses then he is double sad, makes no sense to him.

With him betting on City, and most recently Arsenal, to win that means he will most likely win money since those teams win majority of their games, and when they do end up losing or drawing time to time, that makes him a lose money but at least he is still happy.

Your friend obviously has a free spirit where sports betting is concerned.  He is just having fun, so losing still doesn't cause him much pain. If only many other gamblers will understand too that gambling (specially sports betting) is not something they should kill themselves over, then everyone will be safe. I avoid any form of emotional attachment to betting. Betting is suppose to show my ability to make accurate analysis, my joy at the end of every game will be in the fact that I am good in analysing sports base on both past and present records and winning only validates my claims. I will never bet in favour of a weak team no matter the love I have for that team. Sport bettors who are having challenges should try to be rational in their sense of judgement and analysis and they will see good changes
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In my opinion, OP's story is the definition of gambling. You are sure of your choice then place a bet.

In gambling, winning or losing is normal and is only limited to these 2 choices. If you win then it is luck, which is sometimes very difficult to repeat.

As gamblers, we should be wise in using betting money because if we lose, we might lose that money.

Yes every gambler will only end up with one of two possibilities at the end of the session that is between winning or losing, all of which can never be known unless you have completed the session by seeing the results. Gambling is always random in terms of determining who the winner is and this is the reason why gambling can never be predicted because after all it is a gambling activity that bets your money on increasing or losing.

Of course a rational mindset is the recommended action in gambling, because with this then obviously you will be able to really consider everything from various sides to be able to make a truly wise decision and this benefit can minimize the possibility of regret at the end of the session. As I said above, gambling is always random which means that you or anyone can never know the outcome, and this means that gambling should not be taken too seriously and also should not put any expectations because in many cases they will usually only end up with disappointment due to putting their hopes in a place that is always about uncertainty and this confirms that gambling is an activity for profit, so be careful before you regret it.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Betting all would be foolish. A game is a game and anything could happen regardless of how much Team A is at advantage; as long as the buzzer is not being heard, things are still not assured. Cliché as it sounds but never bet with confidence 'coz that's subjective. Perhaps you invested a small amount; you could get high rewards from profit but if it came out as a losing bet, and if you have bet a huge amount, then that would also be a huge loss. If you are about the consequences the be careful of the amount you engage. If you can't imagine yourself being in huge regret after a losing bet, then at least be preventive of such situation. Play it safe as much as possible. It would be better to settle with smaller profit than to settle with loss alone. Keep in mind how gambling works wherein many people regret putting their 'all' and eventually be needing of help from people around them.
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I know we like our teams and all, but I have a friend that does exactly opposite of this instead Cheesy. He is a LFC fan, and he wagers on City win a lot of money. His thought is that either City will lose and make him happy, or they will win and make him richer Cheesy. That's not half a bad idea, if he bets on Liverpool to win then it would mean that if Liverpool wins, he is double happy because both his team won and he earned money, but if LFC loses then he is double sad, makes no sense to him.

With him betting on City, and most recently Arsenal, to win that means he will most likely win money since those teams win majority of their games, and when they do end up losing or drawing time to time, that makes him a lose money but at least he is still happy.
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