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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
I know there are clubs that you have confidence in but somtimes over confidence will disappoint you one day.  But the clubs you don't even trust are the once that will deliver. When it comes to gambling you don't trust. Just play your game and expect to win. And don't put to much expectations in winning. There actually games you know that they can win but if you playing games like that you have to be very careful when staking. Before you go and give  Manchester City a straight win and the next thing you are disappointed Because don't be surprised that they will play draw or even lose to that club. Everything about gambling is based on luck. Don't follow other people's win or you might just lose money. Just do your thing your self.
I have favorite teams like many players, but I understand that betting and favorite team are absolutely incompatible things and there is no need to connect them. If we bet on our favorite team and know that it will lose, then this is called donating our money. If there is anyone ready to take such a step, then for what exactly, there must be a solid reason for such a losing event. This is a rather blind act that almost no one will appreciate except the one who bets, and if he does it constantly, then nothing good will happen to his wallet.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.

True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
It's really better to become neutral in terms of giving advise for someone that's already addicted or going onto that point. You don't have to trigger them just because they're a fan or not because if you do, what if they bet with their life savings and they eventually lose? you might even be blamed for that because you're the one who dared them to do it.
That's why, I'd avoid this kind of argument with my friends just to prove that they're a real bettor or fan of a club or sports.
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
I know there are clubs that you have confidence in but somtimes over confidence will disappoint you one day.  But the clubs you don't even trust are the once that will deliver. When it comes to gambling you don't trust. Just play your game and expect to win. And don't put to much expectations in winning. There actually games you know that they can win but if you playing games like that you have to be very careful when staking. Before you go and give  Manchester City a straight win and the next thing you are disappointed Because don't be surprised that they will play draw or even lose to that club. Everything about gambling is based on luck. Don't follow other people's win or you might just lose money. Just do your thing your self.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Confidence in a match is limited to anything that can happen that is beyond prediction. Regarding other beliefs such as winning large amounts of money on bets is unthinkable.
The Manchester United vs Liverpool match which took place in the last week before the international break is part of what I believe. For me, Manchester United were just lucky despite the fact that they were able to beat Liverpool in extra time.

And for me, my friend, you are very lucky because many observers didn't believe Manchester United won before the match started because of Man United's inconsistent factors.
Just look at how euphoric they were over the victory, as if they had won a match that made them lift the trophy.
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Even though I agree that one can have that much confidence in a team sometimes if they have done enough research and understand the game very well, however, it isn't wise to stake a lot of money on a single bet because you never know, even in sports betting, sometimes luck can influence the results and a team that might be the favourite in a contest can lose against a team that hasn't been performing very well lately.

So, I would say that your friend was lucky that he managed to win that bet, but if he had lost it, he would have regretted his decision a lot and there is no fun and point in doing things that can make you restless afterwards. After all, it's not a full-time source of income that one should focus on this much.
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In gambling you don't allow yourself to be controlled by favouritism, in gambling there no preferred team, you don't bring your team in because you might lose if you bet in your preferred club side, over confidence does not play in gambling, the whole process is based on your luck level, I have seen teams with a very small odd losing to teams with Tinny odd, so if you select your club you should have an open mind to expect two different events, either you lose or you win, no matter how good a club is, you can only predict their encounter with other clubs but you can't be very sure of their winning or losing, in gambling dont be too sure.

Obviously, when you gamble with club sentiment you will lose. Know when winning is not in your team's favour and then avoid gambling. Gambling involves money and so a gambler shouldn't be by sentiment. No matter how informed a team is, there are days such team will lose and so it will be in the interest of a gambler to gamble reasonably. Don't gamble because you support a team and you believe in the team and so you exceed your gambling limit. Gambling should be approached with caution because it is an adventure capable of taking everything you have. I am an Arsenal fan and I am so unfortunate that each time I add Arsenal to my selection, I always lose the bet.

Since this is my reality, I cannot stake my all in my club. In fact, it is risky to place your all during a gambling session due to the fact that nothing is certain in gambling. Gambling is a game of risk and so it is very unpredictable making it very easy to lose than to win.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.

True, those are words that can make your friend or anyone feel supported or encouraged to continue his actions to bet even very large money which is where such words might make them even more convinced that they really have to "do it", whereas on the other hand high confidence will usually only lead you to disappointment at the end of the session when everything does not go according to what you want.

Therefore, as you said, it is better to be neutral in terms of giving advice to others about betting issues, especially to your friends, where the more appropriate ideas and suggestions are as you said above, namely telling him that he doesn't have to push too hard because after all, supporting a club doesn't always have to mean risking money and also yes, it is definitely better to suggest something more reasonable, such as trying to advise them to bet an amount that they can afford if for example they have the mind to bet a large amount because they are driven by their beliefs, Because obviously this action will be able to prevent something that is not wanted such as results that do not match expectations that can make them end up with disappointment and regret.
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
I wouldn't do like your friend, because it's widely said to not put all your eggs on the same basket. And in your friend's case, he did it with most chances against him, just to place a bet on the club he is a fan. Luckly this time it ended well for him, and he made big profit from his bet, however it could have happened the opposite, and if he continues placing similar bets futurely, at some point he will start facing losses on long run.

On the scenario he is sticking to his gambling budget exclusively, it's not really a big issue if he is losing money or not. Although it can be a better idea to diversify the portfolio among more different bets, while adopting another criteria of which teams and players to pick besides betting only on the club of his heart.
His money His rules and there's nothing we can do about that and this is where some people do really have those kind of support when it comes into their teams that they do come up into such state
that they would really be going all in with their bets despite its pretty obvious that they are at disadvantage or in verge of losing. Also going all in without having that kind of consideration and analysis is never been that ideal.Making betting should be wise because we arent here on just trying out to show some support into the team/club. We are here on making up bets to make profits of course at
the same time you are really that having some fund.

Overconfidence is something a behavior on which it would really be something that could put up in trouble and this is something that you should really be that
trying out to lessen or minimize because if you wont really be able to put up some analysis then most likely your bets would be on lesser winning chance.
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
I wouldn't do like your friend, because it's widely said to not put all your eggs on the same basket. And in your friend's case, he did it with most chances against him, just to place a bet on the club he is a fan. Luckly this time it ended well for him, and he made big profit from his bet, however it could have happened the opposite, and if he continues placing similar bets futurely, at some point he will start facing losses on long run.

On the scenario he is sticking to his gambling budget exclusively, it's not really a big issue if he is losing money or not. Although it can be a better idea to diversify the portfolio among more different bets, while adopting another criteria of which teams and players to pick besides betting only on the club of his heart.
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so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Don't do that, you don't know if these friends of yours are really going for it. But because of your words, he has to show you that he's a real fan and a gambler. I wouldn't dare to do or say that to my friends and I'll just tell them that they can support their favorite clubs in anyway that they can. And please don't move to the point that they have to stake away their lives or life savings or an amount that's too much to them and they are forced to do it because they think it's fine for them to do so just to show them they can do your dare to them.
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I know we like our teams and all, but I have a friend that does exactly opposite of this instead Cheesy. He is a LFC fan, and he wagers on City win a lot of money. His thought is that either City will lose and make him happy, or they will win and make him richer Cheesy. That's not half a bad idea, if he bets on Liverpool to win then it would mean that if Liverpool wins, he is double happy because both his team won and he earned money, but if LFC loses then he is double sad, makes no sense to him.

With him betting on City, and most recently Arsenal, to win that means he will most likely win money since those teams win majority of their games, and when they do end up losing or drawing time to time, that makes him a lose money but at least he is still happy.

Your friend obviously has a free spirit where sports betting is concerned.  He is just having fun, so losing still doesn't cause him much pain. If only many other gamblers will understand too that gambling (specially sports betting) is not something they should kill themselves over, then everyone will be safe. I avoid any form of emotional attachment to betting. Betting is suppose to show my ability to make accurate analysis, my joy at the end of every game will be in the fact that I am good in analysing sports base on both past and present records and winning only validates my claims. I will never bet in favour of a weak team no matter the love I have for that team. Sport bettors who are having challenges should try to be rational in their sense of judgement and analysis and they will see good changes
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In my opinion, OP's story is the definition of gambling. You are sure of your choice then place a bet.

In gambling, winning or losing is normal and is only limited to these 2 choices. If you win then it is luck, which is sometimes very difficult to repeat.

As gamblers, we should be wise in using betting money because if we lose, we might lose that money.

Yes every gambler will only end up with one of two possibilities at the end of the session that is between winning or losing, all of which can never be known unless you have completed the session by seeing the results. Gambling is always random in terms of determining who the winner is and this is the reason why gambling can never be predicted because after all it is a gambling activity that bets your money on increasing or losing.

Of course a rational mindset is the recommended action in gambling, because with this then obviously you will be able to really consider everything from various sides to be able to make a truly wise decision and this benefit can minimize the possibility of regret at the end of the session. As I said above, gambling is always random which means that you or anyone can never know the outcome, and this means that gambling should not be taken too seriously and also should not put any expectations because in many cases they will usually only end up with disappointment due to putting their hopes in a place that is always about uncertainty and this confirms that gambling is an activity for profit, so be careful before you regret it.
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Betting all would be foolish. A game is a game and anything could happen regardless of how much Team A is at advantage; as long as the buzzer is not being heard, things are still not assured. Cliché as it sounds but never bet with confidence 'coz that's subjective. Perhaps you invested a small amount; you could get high rewards from profit but if it came out as a losing bet, and if you have bet a huge amount, then that would also be a huge loss. If you are about the consequences the be careful of the amount you engage. If you can't imagine yourself being in huge regret after a losing bet, then at least be preventive of such situation. Play it safe as much as possible. It would be better to settle with smaller profit than to settle with loss alone. Keep in mind how gambling works wherein many people regret putting their 'all' and eventually be needing of help from people around them.
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I know we like our teams and all, but I have a friend that does exactly opposite of this instead Cheesy. He is a LFC fan, and he wagers on City win a lot of money. His thought is that either City will lose and make him happy, or they will win and make him richer Cheesy. That's not half a bad idea, if he bets on Liverpool to win then it would mean that if Liverpool wins, he is double happy because both his team won and he earned money, but if LFC loses then he is double sad, makes no sense to him.

With him betting on City, and most recently Arsenal, to win that means he will most likely win money since those teams win majority of their games, and when they do end up losing or drawing time to time, that makes him a lose money but at least he is still happy.
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When it comes to gambling, it is essential to remain impartial and not let personal preferences or prejudices affect the decisions you make. It is true that anything may happen in a sporting game, and even the most favoured side may lose.
While being objective and not allowing emotions to affect your decision making is a skill that can be learned, it's also something that some people are naturally better at than others. But one should always see that skill as an important component and a stepping stone towards ensuring one has a successful and healthy Gambling life
Don't seem bothered because they're already woke up but work, I'm just trying my best to be in bed while my money do the whole workings for me, easy life going magnificent and everyone will shout. We can start a conversation about the present stages of our life and also how to temporarily limits our golden opportunities as gambling. Gambling is not for everyone, the earlier most of the students understand this quote, the better.
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Always gamble by utilising your head, not your heart. Your club doesn’t give a damn about you so don’t risk your finances betting on them to win.

Sure, support your team, be passionate but don’t regularly bet on them to win just because of your love for them, it’s a guaranteed way to lose money.

This is true. I've always avoided Liverpool in my bet slips simply because I wouldn't be objective about my selections because when it comes to Liverpool, my bias is and will always be one sided. But it's not all bad. As a matter of fact, I have had some nice run of luck with Liverpool this season as they win most of their games and so few losses or draws.

As a side note, I tend to make such bets only on high conviction games though. For  instance, I avoided Liverpool in their most recent defeat to Man Utd in the FA cup quarter final.
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Where I live there is a very wise saying, "It sure killed trust", so when it comes to doing things better 'because you have a lot of trust, that is not a sure thing, because any event can change the history of any sport. or event, so I'm not one to do things or bets like that, even if they tell me that winning is certain, I can't accept that kind of thing.

I know that there are people in the world who only need to be told that they have confidence that it is something safe, and there are people who throw themselves into that, but I am not one of those people because basically things do not work that way, I think that security does not work. It can be either a casino or a bet because nothing is certain.

I think that when it comes to being in a casino or sports betting one should not be so trusting, there should always be reasons to distrust even one's own shadow.
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While their wealth allows for faster recovery, the principle remains - large wagers can lead to significant losses.  Imagine putting a vast sum on a single outcome, regardless of the potential returns.

The connection you draw between fan bias and responsible gambling is insightful.  Passion for a team shouldn't cloud your judgment.  Just because you favor a team doesn't mean they're guaranteed to win.  Imagine basing your entire bet on loyalty rather than a neutral assessment of the game's dynamics.

The potential for heartbreak in the face of unexpected losses is another crucial point.  Letting confidence in a team overshadow responsible gambling practices can lead to disappointment and financial strain.  Imagine the emotional toll of losing a large sum due to misplaced faith in a specific outcome.
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Yes, you are right, self-confidence is fine as long as we don't overdo it which will waste all our money. Even though we really believe in a club being able to win, that is not a good thing to do, because in gambling there is always a risk, so it is better to keep betting on the minimum bet or a little bigger, as long as we don't put all our assets in the bet. the.

However, we have to keep thinking about what is good for us in the future, and risking all the money we have is not a good idea. Gambling must remain within certain limits, lest because of excessive self-confidence we do stupid things that we shouldn't do.

Don't think about the wins we will get when we bet, but we should also think about the losses we might get when betting. It's my way of staying on track when it comes to gambling. We must always be conscious and full of logic when we want to do something so that we don't regret it in the end.
Okay, look. You're talkin' about self-confidence like it's some magic bullet against losing your shirt gambling, but that ain't how it works, man. Yeah, confidence is good, but too much and it makes you stupid. Betting the minimum? Man, come on...that's like thinking you won't drown because you dip a toe in the ocean

You're talking about all this caution, trying to control things, but the whole damn game is about the opposite of that. Your future ain't coming from some lucky roll; it's about the choices you make right now. Gambling, that ain't a choice, it's a trap. It runs on that feeling like you're hot, or that you're about to get your money back if you keep playing...

Thing is, those losses? They ain't a maybe, they're baked into the whole thing. The game is designed so you lose long-term. You think you're staying on track, but that track is just leading you towards jumping off. It's more than the money, dude. You're gambling with your headspace, your whole outlook on things
It seems you have misunderstood what I am saying here, I am not saying self-confidence is like medicine that we can take when we are sick, but there is another meaning I want to convey. When you gamble, do you not have the confidence to bet? don't we all have the same feelings when gambling? Even though I feel it a little, I'm sure most of us also hope to win at gambling, I wouldn't be a hypocrite to say I don't expect to win when I gamble.

Controlling the situation does not mean that we control the game, but it is more about self-control so that we are still within limits when gambling. Don't we want to be responsible gamblers? even though we know that our chances of losing are greater than winning.

But I agree with what you say with the future not coming luck, I have no problem with that, because we have the same thoughts. Once again, gambling is full of risks, and we must understand these risks before gambling. We do all of this so that we don't overdo it and become an addict.
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In my opinion, OP's story is the definition of gambling. You are sure of your choice then place a bet.

In gambling, winning or losing is normal and is only limited to these 2 choices. If you win then it is luck, which is sometimes very difficult to repeat.

As gamblers, we should be wise in using betting money because if we lose, we might lose that money.
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