Can you stake on a potential(obvious) loosing team just for love?

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Quote from: JMBitcointernational on April 14, 2024, 11:29:08 AM

Op I have never believed that a particular team is certain to lose a match even when their key players are not among the first eleven players .

Yes, it's true that no team is ever certain to lose s particular match, but with past record, one is likely to have a clue which team likely to perform best.

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I have once placed bet for the sake of love and it nearly landed me to a big problem but it is based on correct score and love for individual player but going so far to stake a team for the sake of love I have never tried that. And I will not try it because football is meant to be two sided and any team can win irrespective of how small they are because i did not believe in small team .

Correct scores are mostly one of the hardest kind of games to bet one, as the probability of the the outcome of the game to go as predicted always 0.1%. which is why I personally do love betting with either Over, Under or Draw, as there is a high chance of you winning with either Over or Under, than correct scores. However, when it comes to the topic of discussion, I will say that one of the qualities of a good gambler is supposed to have been his/her ability to distinguish/separate himself from club loyalty and profit maximization, of which if your club is said to be playing a match and you are very sure they are likely to lose the game, it better you bet on the side with the winning potential or skip the game.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 16, 2024, 06:58:50 PM

Well first we say to lose and not to loose, you must be confusing with to choose maybe lol. But you wouldn't lose money just because I like a player or a team, it's a non sense for me. If I want to spend money for them, I would prefer by goodies about the player or the team. Or if I know his address, I would certainly prefer to send him a gift with the money, he would be more pleased.

Op I have never believed that a particular team is certain to lose a match even when their key players are not among the first eleven players .football is a game of chance and luck and it is very certain that the one you are hoping to lose will end up winning with different margin .if I love a team I can’t stake because of love I can only stake on the basics of their performance and their winning record, I have once placed bet for the sake of love and it nearly landed me to a big problem but it is based on correct score and love for individual player but going so far to stake a team for the sake of love I have never tried that. And I will not try it because football is meant to be two sided and any team can win irrespective of how small they are because i did not believe in small team .

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Quote from: angrybirdy on March 18, 2024, 04:35:38 AM

yeah right, better to stop betting and just enjoy the game with good food and acquiantance, right? kidding. Of course we can't do that because it's more exciting to watch the game and supporting a team with some top up bet amount, so you have something to look forward at the end of the game but we need to be more cautious on the possible outcome of the game and don't expect something from the team that you support, just enjoy in your seat while having a bet.

Yeah no kidding there, gambling is serious business and when there is money involved, you need to have back up predictions to run that bet and not just your own fanaticism to blind you. If a person is being serious about their bets they would not take sides but go with their prediction homework.

Like I said, this the thing that has led to sports betting over the years to evolve into what it is today. So we cant deny the link between two, of course it exists and it exists in a bad way only the make the person lose money if not careful to get carried away by emotions.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on March 13, 2024, 06:08:08 AM

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.

The initial goal of gambling is to win. The purpose of fanatism (I hope I made myself clear) is to root for and support your team. It is necessary to separate gambling from fanatism, because in this case the goals begin to contradict each other. Otherwise, this leads to such stupidity as an obviously losing bet. Mixing the cold common sense of a gambler with the hot emotional expectations of a fan will certainly end in losses.

I would not make a bet that was unprofitable (in my opinion), but as a compromise I would simply ignore the match of my favorite team as a subject of bets. That is, I would separate gambling from fanatism, because I would devote time to these entertainments at different times.

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Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

I am a person who is fascinated by Football , it is actually my first Sport , so when it comes to placing bets I am emphatic with my team, I do have to bet knowing that the team can or has a greater chance of losing I do, I always keep hope, but of course I'm not stupid enough to bet a lot of money, I always do it with little.

What most people do when Betting on their Favorite sport is betting with their heart and Sometimes it doesn't work because they lose money.

As football fan and also a gambler, I know there's a difference between been passionate in supporting your team and also a totally different thing when you talk about are trying to place bets with huge money.
For instance, whenever my local team is playing against a team that's believed by many to better, I simply stake a little amount of money for my local team to win even when i know that it's almost impossible for my local team to win. However, I have also be lucky in few occasions that my local team ended up winning the games.
But whenever I'm about to stake huge amount of money and is expecting myself to win at the end of the day, I totally do not attach my emotions to it again as I only stake on teams I believe will win at the end of of the day and that doesn't make me less of a fan of you ask me.

If you are someone whose really that too emotional type of person on which showing off some support into the team you do like then you wont really be caring on how much you would really be putting up bets on them
even if you do saw that they arent the favorites or simply the underdog on such game but still you have decided on betting on them. Its not really that bad on making out such kind of bet but of course majority of
people would really be minding about on how to make those wins or simply with profits on which of course it would really be normal that you would really be needing up some adjustments if you are really that serious on making some bucks.

Although not all people would really be just only coming after for the money but rather they would really be here for the support and this is why you would really be seeing these kind of types and it would be better that you shouldnt really be making some argumentations with these fellas if you dont really like for some long winding kind of argument because they would really be fighting
for their own views and decisions of course.

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This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

The allegiance of fans extends beyond mere fandom; it's deeply rooted in their sense of identity and community pride. Fans place bets on their favorite teams with the expectation of victory. They view it as a demonstration of loyalty and unwavering support. This emotional investment can cloud judgment and lead to biased decision-making, particularly when it comes to predicting outcomes.

There is distinction between betting for emotional fulfillment and betting solely for financial gain. Some may prioritize financial returns over emotional attachment, and others find fulfillment in expressing their support through betting, even if it means accepting the inherent risks involved. Feeling the intersection of emotions and betting can indeed be challenging, because as it requires separating personal biases from objective analysis. It may be difficult to detach from one's emotions entirely, but maintaining a level of rationality and perspective is essential in making informed betting decisions.

Sometimes when a person is merely cold and doesn't feel any love for a particular team things are quite obvious, but sometimes in these cases you have to prioritize reason over the heart, it is something that is quite strong for some I don't deny it, it's very difficult for me to do it, and the truth is I wouldn't be able to bet on a team that I have never supported, that is, I am a Madrid fan, it would be impossible for me to bet for Barcelona, I think I would feel very bad and even dirty, I know it's an exaggeration, but I'm not capable, I don't know if one day my son will become a soccer professional and if he has to play on that team, I think my heart would have to break two, because for me the first thing is my son and his success, but I would tell him in every possible way that he left better so that Madrid could take him, otherwise I would still support him, it would be a very strange feeling, but it would be a very exceptio special, I think that would be the only way I could support a team for which I have not supported all my life.

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I literally did this couple of times when I was lot younger, young like my university years. I think this was mainly caused my belief towards my team's strength. As I am fan of my team, I know what our players excel at so it creates distorted reality in my opinion. I think its very counterproductive way of gambling. I know its enjoyable to watch your team winning, and at the same time your coupon making you money - Undeniably. But proper gamblers would never do something like this in my opinion.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on March 17, 2024, 02:44:49 AM

This type of emotional support is often coming from die-hard fans. The casinos bank on these fans to make the wrong bets too. Cool

This is why sports betting is popular and leads to a number of fans losing their money for free on game nights. For being a good sport bettor, one has to keep aside these emotions and be calculative. But is tough for those who love their teams too much.

It often better to just not bet and enjoy the game with some food and drinks.

yeah right, better to stop betting and just enjoy the game with good food and acquiantance, right? kidding. Of course we can't do that because it's more exciting to watch the game and supporting a team with some top up bet amount, so you have something to look forward at the end of the game but we need to be more cautious on the possible outcome of the game and don't expect something from the team that you support, just enjoy in your seat while having a bet.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on March 17, 2024, 05:17:52 AM

Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

I am a person who is fascinated by Football , it is actually my first Sport , so when it comes to placing bets I am emphatic with my team, I do have to bet knowing that the team can or has a greater chance of losing I do, I always keep hope, but of course I'm not stupid enough to bet a lot of money, I always do it with little.

What most people do when Betting on their Favorite sport is betting with their heart and Sometimes it doesn't work because they lose money.

As football fan and also a gambler, I know there's a difference between been passionate in supporting your team and also a totally different thing when you talk about are trying to place bets with huge money.
For instance, whenever my local team is playing against a team that's believed by many to better, I simply stake a little amount of money for my local team to win even when i know that it's almost impossible for my local team to win. However, I have also be lucky in few occasions that my local team ended up winning the games.
But whenever I'm about to stake huge amount of money and is expecting myself to win at the end of the day, I totally do not attach my emotions to it again as I only stake on teams I believe will win at the end of of the day and that doesn't make me less of a fan of you ask me.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2024, 02:33:34 PM

Quote from: Blitzboy on March 17, 2024, 05:17:52 AM

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This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

The allegiance of fans extends beyond mere fandom; it's deeply rooted in their sense of identity and community pride. Fans place bets on their favorite teams with the expectation of victory. They view it as a demonstration of loyalty and unwavering support. This emotional investment can cloud judgment and lead to biased decision-making, particularly when it comes to predicting outcomes.

There is distinction between betting for emotional fulfillment and betting solely for financial gain. Some may prioritize financial returns over emotional attachment, and others find fulfillment in expressing their support through betting, even if it means accepting the inherent risks involved. Feeling the intersection of emotions and betting can indeed be challenging, because as it requires separating personal biases from objective analysis. It may be difficult to detach from one's emotions entirely, but maintaining a level of rationality and perspective is essential in making informed betting decisions.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on March 17, 2024, 05:17:52 AM

Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

I am a person who is fascinated by Football , it is actually my first Sport , so when it comes to placing bets I am emphatic with my team, I do have to bet knowing that the team can or has a greater chance of losing I do, I always keep hope, but of course I'm not stupid enough to bet a lot of money, I always do it with little.

What most people do when Betting on their Favorite sport is betting with their heart and Sometimes it doesn't work because they lose money.

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We all know that football is a game of passion and entertainment be it that your team win or losses yet we still keep supporting them but not when money is involved.

Football is really a game of passion and we see different strange behaviors and actions being displayed by supporters in weird ways of showing support.
But I haven’t yet met anyone that would be willing to part away with money to place bets that is most likely to come out not in his favor. When a scenario where parting of money is involved, we tend to think more clearly unless of course we’re thinking out of a place of greed.
We could buy loads of merch in show of support but placing bets when the outcome is obviously isn’t in your favor in a show of support is quite unheard of.

Placing bets on matches, even when the outcome may not be in their favor, is more common than you might think. Betting on football matches is not only about predicting the outcome. For many football enthusiasts, it adds an extra excitement and engagement to the game. Even if the odds are against them, some people are willing to take the risk for the thrill of the experience. This is a craziness of fandom.

It's safe to say that betting on football matches is not always driven by greed. Maybe it might sound crazy to hear that some fans may place bets as a form of loyalty or solidarity with their team, regardless of the potential outcome. It's a way for them to demonstrate their unwavering support and belief in their team's capabilities. The rise of online betting platforms and easy access to betting markets has made it more convenient for fans to place bets. That contribute further to its popularity among football supporters. Buying merchandise is undoubtedly a common way to show support for a team, but betting on matches can be seen as another form of expression for passionate fans. It may seem unconventional to some, but betting on football matches as a show of support is not unheard of and is driven by a variety of factors beyond mere greed.

Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This has accelerated in the digital age. Today, online platforms make supporting your team from anywhere, anytime easy. Passion, commitment, and thrill-seeking are involved, not greed. Betting, like wearing your team's jersey or screaming in the seats, shows you're part of something bigger. We shouldnt underestimate devotion and supporters' emotional bonds to their teams. Its huge and transforming how we enjoy sports.

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Quote from: blckhawk on March 17, 2024, 04:59:36 AM

Love is stupid after all so bet away, you know that you're going to lose and you're betting for your love of that team means that you're not really going to listen to any kind of logic that would prevent you from doing so. The point of this is to show solidarity and loyalty to the team so there's nothing wrong even if me and others say that it's stupid or illogical to do so. Also, it's worth noting that miracle and comebacks can happen so if you've bet on your favorite team albeit they're losing so badly, and then something miraculous happens and they won then it's an added bonus to you, that you were able to rely on them for bet and that your love for the team paid off.

You know how people say love is blind when you're really into your favorite team? It's so true! I get totally irrational and throw logic out the window when I'm cheering them on. My heart wants them to win no matter what the odds are. I know Ive got rose-colored glasses on, but I can't help it - I believe in my squad even when it seems crazy. Like last week, I put 20 bucks on them to rally from a 10-point deficit with 2 minutes left and my buddy said I was nuts! But then they pulled off some wild plays and ended up winning the game! Bam! It happened just like I knew it would in my heart. That feeling when your wild bet pays off thanks to the team you have faith in? It's priceless.

Who cares about logic - this is all about passion and spirit baby!

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 16, 2024, 06:58:50 PM

If I want to spend money for them, I would prefer by goodies about the player or the team. Or if I know his address, I would certainly prefer to send him a gift with the money, he would be more pleased.

I am sure that the players will be more pleased or the coach will also be more pleased when supporters do something more tangible to show their support for the team. If a gambler stake on his team with the idea that the team will lose in the game, how can the team know about this kind of support and how can they appreciate it? It is a foolish action to show support in such way.

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Love is stupid after all so bet away, you know that you're going to lose and you're betting for your love of that team means that you're not really going to listen to any kind of logic that would prevent you from doing so. The point of this is to show solidarity and loyalty to the team so there's nothing wrong even if me and others say that it's stupid or illogical to do so. Also, it's worth noting that miracle and comebacks can happen so if you've bet on your favorite team albeit they're losing so badly, and then something miraculous happens and they won then it's an added bonus to you, that you were able to rely on them for bet and that your love for the team paid off.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on March 13, 2024, 06:08:08 AM

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I did this a couple of times... I was a blind fan back then lol but granted it's not really because they had a bad matchup or anything heck the matches afaik could've gone either way with how strong both teams were most of the time, so in those cases, I simply went for my favorite team.

In cases where they performed underwhelming and were against a pretty well-performing team, I'd mostly still go for them. In this context underperforming in that specific tournament, not in every tournament in general. If that happened, I'd stay away from stake on them until they get their stuff back together. Doesn't matter that I like them, I like them in the first place cause they were good anyway.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 16, 2024, 06:58:50 PM

Well first we say to lose and not to loose, you must be confusing with to choose maybe lol. But you wouldn't lose money just because I like a player or a team, it's a non sense for me. If I want to spend money for them, I would prefer by goodies about the player or the team. Or if I know his address, I would certainly prefer to send him a gift with the money, he would be more pleased.

I myself can equally be confusing as well sometimes on the different between lose and loose. When I saw this your statement It was already funny because I have been making such mistakes too.

But any ways I can not stake or bet for love, rather bet for fun and make some real cash. Why would I even think of playing just for the love of team while the team is making there money wether I play for love or not. I even stand a chance to lose because if they lose the match they will be paid and if they also win they will be paid but if they lose I lose so they have %100 assurance of getting paid per week, so I don't play for love .

Maybe if they are not sure on the words they use they should better check on google the correct word to use and meaning so that they will not get confuse on what they are posting here.

Also we have different opinion or the way how we look in this kind of situation. But for me it always depends since if the team is obviously losing and they lose their key players or stars due to injury then there's no point for placing a bet since most likely they really have a high chance to lose. But if they just been called as underdog but if their core is intact and their roster is healthy then maybe I will bet on those teams since I still believe that the result would be change and that strong team they know could still possibly lose if those underdog or what they called losing team will perform well.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 15, 2024, 01:51:27 AM

I think it's bullshit and personally I would never do such a thing in my life. Your individual bet doesn't influence the performance of your team, it doesn't make it better or worse. If anything it's the other way around, if your team was better, you'd bet on it winning more often. In other words, it is the performance of your team that influences your bets, not the other way around.

You are right though. When your team is doing so well then it could give you the confidence to bet on them to win and it absolutely makes no sense to stake on your team just for the sake of love at where you are going to loose your funds.

But alternatively @Don Pedro Dinero, don't you believe that for a player or team to be aware that their supporter made stakes on them to win a match, that would service the team to buckle up so that the Don't bring disgrace to their teams? Inspirations can actually be driven from different ways as a morale.
This should count be when one you hailing and cheering you at your given up times which you recharge you up to be energymatic again.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 16, 2024, 06:58:50 PM

Well first we say to lose and not to loose, you must be confusing with to choose maybe lol. But you wouldn't lose money just because I like a player or a team, it's a non sense for me. If I want to spend money for them, I would prefer by goodies about the player or the team. Or if I know his address, I would certainly prefer to send him a gift with the money, he would be more pleased.

I myself can equally be confusing as well sometimes on the different between lose and loose. When I saw this your statement It was already funny because I have been making such mistakes too.

But any ways I can not stake or bet for love, rather bet for fun and make some real cash. Why would I even think of playing just for the love of team while the team is making there money wether I play for love or not. I even stand a chance to lose because if they lose the match they will be paid and if they also win they will be paid but if they lose I lose so they have %100 assurance of getting paid per week, so I don't play for love .

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This type of emotional support is often coming from die-hard fans. The casinos bank on these fans to make the wrong bets too. Cool

This is why sports betting is popular and leads to a number of fans losing their money for free on game nights. For being a good sport bettor, one has to keep aside these emotions and be calculative. But is tough for those who love their teams too much.

It often better to just not bet and enjoy the game with some food and drinks.

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