Topic: Can you stake on a potential(obvious) loosing team just for love? - page 3. (Read 958 times)

My buddy has a different view from you on this. He calls it the "happiness hedge." Basically, he bets against the team he's rooting for (at small amounts). If they lose, he's happy because he wins some money. If they win, he's happy because his team won. Feels like some gambler's logic to me lol but for him it works. I guess the main principle he follows is that he never puts in too much money to the point where he'd be sad if he lost.

lol it's serious, man if you want to support a team you buy their t-shirts, go to the stadium, go on a trip where they want them to play, create a fans brave club, make positive content for the team (Social networks), but burn money on a bet on your team That's not supporting the team, that's supporting the casino.

There is a different context, when your team has real possibilities, I made a thread in that sense.
Sports Betting vs Real "Sports Feelings"

But if we think rationally, sometimes such things waste our time and money because in the end we already know the chances are high that the club we love will lose a match especially when looking at previous poor performances (for example) but we are too forced just because of the thrill and love without thinking about others, this has a worse impact on our finances because we do not do rational thinking and only maintain ego.
This condition is not justified for gambling, it's just that everyone has their own views on it and because of our love for a club sometimes it makes us blind to the conditions we support considering the ambition and ego we have too big to admit it.

It is not wrong if we have more finances and are ready to spend money on an unnecessary condition but on the other hand, we also cannot always force things like this because after all, betting is based on a condition so that we benefit not to let the money we have go to waste.

Yes, of course I can even with great ease if there are chances to turn the game around. I mean that there will be a minimum of 5% on the event; if it is lower, then I consider this to be too low an indicator and of course I would not bet on this. Because adequacy must remain first and foremost, which borders on love for the team. Although many, even in very slim probability, are ready to make such bets, in my opinion this will not lead to anything, especially if it is repeated often. I also want to add that there should be love for the team, but it should not be crazy, although I am tolerant of such players, it is their choice in the end.

I think that's such a profound way of putting it. When people bet on sports, they often lose sight of what they are truly risking and become engrossed in the excitement of the event. It's one thing to be passionate about your team, but it's quite another to risk your hard-earned money on an uncertain conclusion. It's like you said, there's no point in confusing devotion with a financial strategy that's bound to fail. It's important to maintain perspective and make judgments based on logic, not emotion.

If we already love a team then we don't care about the odds given by the bookie and even though realistically the chance of losing is much greater then it won't affect us, because in my opinion it is no longer the mind or brain that speaks, but the heart that speaks.
I have a story about this, this is the experience of a friend of mine who happens to be a supporter of one of the local teams in my country. He will do anything to support his favorite team, until one day his favorite team faces the team at the top of the standings. He asked me to help him find an opponent to bet on at that time, I was a little confused because logically his team would definitely lose, but he insisted on still looking for an opponent to bet on (he made individual bets, not from a gambling site).
From that experience, I believe that a fanatical fan doesn't care about the status of the opponent he or she will face, because usually they will always believe that their favorite team will win and that's why at the beginning I said they had used their heart.

Yes, I also don't understand the mindset of people like that where it is clear that the best and wisest decision is not to bet at all because after all that is a way of losing money intentionally while on the other hand it is a fact that everyone needs money and we should I don't like losing. On the other hand, I do not advise anyone to bet with the aim of making a profit because that is a mindset that is not recommended in gambling, but if you already know about the most likely outcome that will occur at the end of the session then it is clear that we should make decisions that are in line with the possibilities. the result at the end of the session, such as when, for example, the most likely result at the end of the session is that your favorite team will win, then clearly it is a profitable situation for you to support your favorite team while looking for profits, it's like diving while drinking water, but if it's the other way around then yes of course Of course the wise decision is to just support and not to put any money at all and it is better to save it and use it for other useful things.

Here I found someone who really understood the mindset of a team fan in @Strongkored. Sometimes when you're not after chasing the profits, then you basically derives funs out of it and could even take that mile of staking in support of your team to win even at a little chances to win and in a big obvious chances to loose the game.

Failure to win the game is not going to be so emotional like... You loosed a game that you never expected loosing with the regrets that you even betted with a regrettable amount of stakes.
It was going to be more like a social gambling in such a way that you would still stand by your team defending them after loosing that yeah, your team tried to hold on to a point. Meanwhile... You would be so diplomatic with vital accountabilities of giving your loosed team credit for a well played game. You can even be pointing out some advantages the other team had which was a wall that enabled them to beat your team probably some excuses that your team was cheated.
Other team fans may even find some senses to your opinion and could consider that yeah... Truly your team had a kudos playing even though as they loosed the match.

It is just going to be some sorts of game based within you and the other team fans and basically you do not care about the money loosed but most interested on the arguements.
Such discussable games in such scenero is usually comes from the football games.

This all comes back to each individual. Where there are some people who bet for the reason of adding sensation and pleasure when watching the matches they are taking part in, especially matches of their favorite club. in other words, they enjoy the match more than the bets they place. But there are also those who bet just to make a profit, so they always consider every opportunity in the bets they place, even if they have to bet against their papvotrit team. Because when the prediction results show that the opposing team is stronger than our favorite team. So it would be stupid if we bet on a weaker team. And people who bet like this, they tend to like the bet more than the game. But as a fan, of course this is unethical behavior, and can violate the code of ethics as a fan. Where as fans we should be able to respect the integrity of pair play. As fans of a certain team, we must have confidence that our favorite team will always try to give their best so as not to disappoint their fans.

Bet on a losing team because you "love" them is like tossing money into a furnace and expecting gold - it wont happen. I understand loyalty; seeing someone stick to their guns in whatever weather makes me happy. But lets think, folks. Bet your hard-earned money on a losing cause is different from cheering from the sidelines in your team's colors. Use your resources wisely. Love your team? Great. Scream until hoarse to support them. But let's not confuse devotion with financial craziness when betting. Save the money for something that will pay off.

Is obvious that  a lot of people do just to defend their favorite team,but I think they are making a very big mistake in doing that when it has to do with money, their are other ways to defend your favorite team,I know football is a game of passion,and also for intertainment and fun.
To Risky your money in betting your favorite team when they are playing with bigger teams,and is obvious that the bigger team is opportune to win your favorite team isn't going to make you the biggest fan instead you're wasting your money.however I'm passionate into football activities but I don't take such risk.

Yes simply put it is like supporting over a careless decision, meaning that they already know that their favorite team is much weaker than the opposing team but they even put money to bet, on the other hand I think betting is a bet and love is another thing, so it is a ridiculous decision if you already know that most likely your pride team will lose but you still decide to bet for love, and in my opinion it is a decision that is far from wise.

Yes it is true as you said that true fans will continue to support their team to win or if it is because it is a common thing that often happens in every match, but the name of support does not always involve money, or the point is that if you see that most likely your team will lose then obviously it is better not to bet first and better use the money for other more important things, because obviously it is a silly decision if you spend money to lose.

Normally, it is good to defend one's team even if they win or lose because that is what makes you a fan but staking money despite knowing the opponent are far better than the team you are supporting is what I see as abnormal, like what is the need of you betting in favour of your team when they face a more stronger opponent. We all know that football is a game of passion and entertainment be it that your team win or losses yet we still keep supporting them but not when money is involved.

Exactly! It's not foolishness because that's the way you show your support to your team, there are many people who do the same thing, they just don't want to admit it because this is how others immediately think and comment, but that's how it really is when you're loyal to your team, no matter what happens, you will support them and not leave them, and besides, you will just bet on them but it is not said that you will bet a large amount, it's like what, a small token as support.

Supporting the team we like wholeheartedly and with great dedication is quite a good thing. And perhaps betting on a match against our own team, perhaps that is not a wise action, and is considered unethical. As fans, we should be able to respect religious integrity and fair play. Although it does not rule out the possibility that there are some individuals who decide to bet against their own team, because they see that the other team's chances of winning are higher than their favorite team. This can happen because they like the betting more, rather than the match and the team.

And if we really have that much love for our favorite club, the best thing for us to do is support them with high enthusiasm and with full confidence that they will give their best in every match.

Definitely it is normal to have a team you like soo much because of maybe personal reasons or because of their performance. This however does not mean you should stake in support of them when you know that they are going to lose . It is more like chasing a lost cause which is irrational if you ask me.
Yes we often comment that gambling is a fun based game but still winning is an added benefit and of course no one finds fun in losing. As a responsible gambler even if you have a team you love so much it doesn't stand as an excuse for you to staking in a lost cause its more  like just tossing your money into a ditch and I bet a gambling hater will classify such a person as an addict.

It is not a foolishness as long as you take it as a fun bet (not to make money). When you know that your favorite team has so low chance to win means that the odds is big so placing a small bet will be fun as it may give something nice if your favorite team win the match unexpectedly. It will be a foolishness if you do it all the time and with decent amount of every bet merely because you are a fan of the team.

Many a time gamblers use the term gambling is a fun activity . This doesn't mean that they want  a loss as it is normal to human nature to frown towards losing and cheer towards winning. Of course many gamblers usually stake in favor of their team hoping them to win however they are just believing that they would eventually win plus since the love the team they see it worthy to put up the stake. Now the case you made mention of is one of which you are already sure They would lose and still stake. The truth is almost no one would do such a thing even if the take gambling for fun, they will always prefer a win over a loss especially if the loss is too true or the odds of it happening is very high they may just ignore the stake instead.

Yes, thinking that your bet will have any impact in the result is a clear case of magical thinking.

But, on the other hand, it is not the only reason to bet for the loser. I rarely bet on sports, but when I do I often bet for my preferred team, even if chances of winning are low. This way, if they lose I'll have won the bet and, if they win, I will be happy so the bet doesn't matter so much. Some will say that this way I'll never have it all, but also the opposite, so it can make sense to bet for the team least likely to win if you don't care so much about the result and simply bet for fun (I'm curious about who here really gambles that way).

I think it's bullshit and personally I would never do such a thing in my life. Your individual bet doesn't influence the performance of your team, it doesn't make it better or worse. If anything it's the other way around, if your team was better, you'd bet on it winning more often. In other words, it is the performance of your team that influences your bets, not the other way around.