Can You Submit KYC Before You Win Big

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2024, 09:23:18 AM

Quote from: AliMan on September 08, 2024, 09:13:32 AM

But we need to be careful giving out our kyc since those information we had was a potential data breach on our end. Data privacy must be observed before giving out confidence regarding this matter, and I couldn't agree more with since providing kyc to was a requirement from well known crypto gambling.
However, some potential fraudulent sites also tend to become reliable if lots of rewards and winnings tremendously influenced huge subscribers. That's why being vigilant is encouraged as well.

When was the last time you have heard top casinos lose gamblers personal data or were hacked? Since they operate with money, and huge amount of money, they must have had a top level security. I really have huge doubts that if someone tries and managed to hack a casino, he will be there for users private information. Nowadays, people have already left so many pieces if private information everywhere, that being frightened that their private info will leak from casino is silly.

It doesn't work like that. You think that since a company is one of the leaders of the industry it has to protect the data well? Just look how many well known companies had breaches and hacks. How many of them used flawed software?
I'll post just one recent example:

Toyota has admitted its systems were breached. The Japanese automaker confirmed that approximately 240GB of data posted on a hacking forum by the threat actor ZeroSevenGroup originated from its systems. Toyota did not specify how many customers were affected by the breach.
https://cybersecurityventures.com/intrusion-daily-cyber-threat-alert/

Be aware that your KYC data can be leaked and it doesn't matter what casino you choose to play at.

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Even with upfront KYC, you may not be able to immediately withdraw your big winnings at some casinos. The security and finance teams may need time to check some things and they may ask you to re-verify the KYC with some improvements. If previously you only sent documents, you may be asked to make a video call so they can be verified.

KYC verification at the start can certainly help gamblers to be able to withdraw their winnings within a certain limit, but this doesn't mean you can withdraw forever, especially when you get a big win. The casino may ask you to be patient before making a withdrawal and may even delay it for a few days, so I wouldn't be surprised if that has happened before.

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Quote from: vs2014 on September 08, 2024, 09:52:07 AM

Of course you can do this as most gambling sites do not require it. Also if your funds and bet types are small they won't give you any feedback on it. But if your fund amount is high then i suggest to complete kyc. Because kyc can keep your account safe and it won't react like a sudden ban. If you are lucky and win big funds in betting then sure you can withdraw it. Having kyc will not let you down with the gambling site community.

I think it's better for now if you want to gamble at a casino then you need to do KYC early because it has become a rule and on average licensed and regulated casinos require casinos to verify their customers, it's much better than ending up with complicated things, especially if we get a big win or deposit a large amount of money to the casino, usually that's the problem.

As the language goes "prepare an umbrella before it rains".

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I don't mind doing it, but I avoid KYC as much as possible. Because KYC processes have a long chain of procedures. I don't do KYC until I make a lot of money or until they ask me for KYC. I think there should be a system where we can do transactions everywhere with a single KYC ID. I always prefer on the blockchain, but on the blockchain or not, we need it very much. I hope decentralized systems will develop more and more and eliminate this problem one day. I think we really need this.

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Of course you can do this as most gambling sites do not require it. Also if your funds and bet types are small they won't give you any feedback on it. But if your fund amount is high then i suggest to complete kyc. Because kyc can keep your account safe and it won't react like a sudden ban. If you are lucky and win big funds in betting then sure you can withdraw it. Having kyc will not let you down with the gambling site community.

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2024, 09:23:18 AM

Quote from: AliMan on September 08, 2024, 09:13:32 AM

But we need to be careful giving out our kyc since those information we had was a potential data breach on our end. Data privacy must be observed before giving out confidence regarding this matter, and I couldn't agree more with since providing kyc to was a requirement from well known crypto gambling.
However, some potential fraudulent sites also tend to become reliable if lots of rewards and winnings tremendously influenced huge subscribers. That's why being vigilant is encouraged as well.

When was the last time you have heard top casinos lose gamblers personal data or were hacked? Since they operate with money, and huge amount of money, they must have had a top level security. I really have huge doubts that if someone tries and managed to hack a casino, he will be there for users private information. Nowadays, people have already left so many pieces if private information everywhere, that being frightened that their private info will leak from casino is silly.

You can read this news https://apnews.com/article/mgm-cyberattack-las-vegas-100-million-clorox-087726961b5366065b6231d1d223b4eb about MGM casino suffer data breach that result to huge loss.

Also there’s some incident in the past that even crypto casino like Stake suffer a hacking incident that resulted to loss. The point is every online casino has the possibility to be breached by hackers on different ways. It’s not that common but it’s also not impossible to happened so being cautious on sending your KYC is not a bad thing at all.

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Quote from: Wapfika on September 08, 2024, 05:19:20 AM

Quote from: eisen33 on September 08, 2024, 03:40:42 AM

What's the point of this before you win? It may never happen, so what's the point of sharing your data before you decide to withdraw your winnings? Casinos mention that the request for verification can be from $1,000 or more, but I had a case where they asked for verification when I wanted to withdraw about $10, so I suspect that such a request can happen just when withdrawing. Of course, different casinos may have different rules.

Some people think that Casino holds the winning through KYC if a user win big that’s why they assume that submitting KYC earlier will make them free to any casino way on holding winning.

I find it absurd since casino will allow withdrawal after the KYC even if you do it after you won. Those user that encounter problem are those who commit violation against the ToS. A casino will still hold someone account regardless if they submit KYC before or after they won as long as they break the ToS.

There’s nothing to worry if you are a regular gambler that follow the rules.

Well some casino allow you to gamble without KYC but will only let you withdraw once you complete the KYC. On the other hand, there are some casinos that will allow gambling only when you do the KYC beforehand. I think both of these casinos are ok for gambling. If anyone feels that if we do not do the KYC then the casino can stop their big withdrawals even if they do the KYC later, i think such scam casino with still block your big withdrawal no matter if you have done the KYC or not.

For me, it is more important to find a trusted casino to gamble and then you can have a piece of mind that your withdrawals won't be blocked because of KYC or any other reasons.

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Quote from: AliMan on September 08, 2024, 09:13:32 AM

But we need to be careful giving out our kyc since those information we had was a potential data breach on our end. Data privacy must be observed before giving out confidence regarding this matter, and I couldn't agree more with since providing kyc to was a requirement from well known crypto gambling.
However, some potential fraudulent sites also tend to become reliable if lots of rewards and winnings tremendously influenced huge subscribers. That's why being vigilant is encouraged as well.

When was the last time you have heard top casinos lose gamblers personal data or were hacked? Since they operate with money, and huge amount of money, they must have had a top level security. I really have huge doubts that if someone tries and managed to hack a casino, he will be there for users private information. Nowadays, people have already left so many pieces if private information everywhere, that being frightened that their private info will leak from casino is silly.

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Quote from: AliMan on September 08, 2024, 09:13:32 AM

Quote from: bettercrypto on September 08, 2024, 07:32:43 AM

If a casino is reputed and well known in the field of crypto space, such as stakes, duelbits, Rollbit, fortunejack, livecasino, and others that have been popular in this industry for a long time,
I think there is no problem because they are proven and tested. these gambling platforms.

So personally, I won't hesitate to give my KYC either, especially if I know for myself that I'm not violating the casino's TOS, right? It's that simple, so you don't have
to worry about giving kyc.

But we need to be careful giving out our kyc since those information we had was a potential data breach on our end. Data privacy must be observed before giving out confidence regarding this matter, and I couldn't agree more with since providing kyc to was a requirement from well known crypto gambling.
However, some potential fraudulent sites also tend to become reliable if lots of rewards and winnings tremendously influenced huge subscribers. That's why being vigilant is encouraged as well.

That's right too.
After all, everything can happen nowadays, and staying with the guard up is important if no analysis was done beforehand.
It's essential to pick info from different sources and check it thoroughly.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on September 08, 2024, 07:32:43 AM

If a casino is reputed and well known in the field of crypto space, such as stakes, duelbits, Rollbit, fortunejack, livecasino, and others that have been popular in this industry for a long time,
I think there is no problem because they are proven and tested. these gambling platforms.

So personally, I won't hesitate to give my KYC either, especially if I know for myself that I'm not violating the casino's TOS, right? It's that simple, so you don't have
to worry about giving kyc.

But we need to be careful giving out our kyc since those information we had was a potential data breach on our end. Data privacy must be observed before giving out confidence regarding this matter, and I couldn't agree more with since providing kyc to was a requirement from well known crypto gambling.
However, some potential fraudulent sites also tend to become reliable if lots of rewards and winnings tremendously influenced huge subscribers. That's why being vigilant is encouraged as well.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on September 08, 2024, 07:32:43 AM

If a casino is reputed and well known in the field of crypto space, such as stakes, duelbits, Rollbit, fortunejack, livecasino, and others that have been popular in this industry for a long time,
I think there is no problem because they are proven and tested. these gambling platforms.

So personally, I won't hesitate to give my KYC either, especially if I know for myself that I'm not violating the casino's TOS, right? It's that simple, so you don't have
to worry about giving kyc.

Yeah, I don't see a problem with it too.
Credibility equals trust.
If all is gud and everybody is okay with everything - then it should be done.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on September 08, 2024, 06:32:04 AM

Quote from: Tmoonz on September 08, 2024, 05:38:20 AM

Yes you can do your kyc before starting gambling in those gambling sites that requires kyc. But however, if the platforms allowed you to gamble without undergoing your kyc definitely at any point in time it happens that you win big amount of money they makes it compulsory before you can make withdrawal, and I don't see anything wrong in that I see it as a means of security and a kind of final verification to really get to know there customer good enough since it has come to do with huge amount, their interior motive is to know you better that is just the point and we have to play along.

Agreed, some gambling platforms allow gambling without KYC first, but we have to do KYC while withdrawing winnings. It is a must for security, KYC system is very beneficial for both the gambling platform and the player. Moreover, those platforms ensure security through KYC while paying you large sums of money. So the KYC process should not be thought of as a hindrance but it is rather an very important part of security.

KYC is abused by alot of casinos, they use this means to collect customers data to sell to advertising companies who then use the data to send targetted ads to you through various means, either by your social media accounts, or email address, or phone number.
Some casinos even sell those data to scammers who will use the details of another person to carry out a scam which they will definitely get away with, and the person who information the used for the scam will be accused of being the mastermind behind the scam.

So this is why even though kyc be a form of security for both the casino and the customers, it's still very important for us to be very careful on the casinos where we submit our personal information to, to avoid our information being abused or misused.

I really appreciate your kind words of advice as to this regards, we should be able be very careful with the kind of casinos gambling platforms we should get involved with, yeah considering a casino reputation should be hold at a high esteemed. However, I specifically based on sports betting platforms which doesn't require kyc but it is good knowledge of what you said above since I may give casinos game a trial some day or probably advise those around me too, it is a good advice and I will surely adhere to it because it is helpful as not to easily become vulnerable to be used.

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If a casino is reputed and well known in the field of crypto space, such as stakes, duelbits, Rollbit, fortunejack, livecasino, and others that have been popular in this industry for a long time,
I think there is no problem because they are proven and tested. these gambling platforms.

So personally, I won't hesitate to give my KYC either, especially if I know for myself that I'm not violating the casino's TOS, right? It's that simple, so you don't have
to worry about giving kyc.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on May 01, 2024, 11:56:35 AM

I know casinos do this. I have experienced it too. It is also in their T&C. My question for casino lovers is that instead of waiting until we win big and are asked to submit KYC documents, will you do it before the casino management or administrator request of it? Is there anyone who has gone ahead to fill out and submit their KYC on their account or by asking their customer support for it way before they even start make a request.

Your often not required of a KYC document even in the event of a big win if, you’ve always been straight with the casino you gamble with. This often becomes the case when there is something fishy about the games you play and the methods you approach it with. Big wins simply makes you a person of interest and as such, you could be looked up for if there are anything suspicious in your dealings. Funny thing is, you don’t necessarily need to be the offender but, might be implicated by some other related account that might be suspected to be an alternative account and it could be a linking from a style of play.

However, for KYC enabled casinos, your most likely required for this update to have full access to its features. As such, you can even have it done before running into big wins and that doesn’t mean, you can’t get into trouble.

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Quote from: Strongkored on September 08, 2024, 06:56:02 AM

I have never done KYC without the casino asking for it, but I am sure it can be done because you just need to go to the verification section and do whatever is asked to make your account full KYC, but it is definitely not an option that many players will do where they are willing to do KYC up front without the casino asking for it first, even if I play at a new casino and they require KYC up front then I will not want to continue depositing there and prefer to play at the old casino, because KYC is not a fun thing and small gamblers probably will not experience the worry of being asked for KYC later if they win a lot, because winning a lot will be comparable to the deposit used in playing

Some gamblers, especially those staking big money, are just trying to make sure they have no issues with KYC when withdrawing large amounts. There’s usually no problem with deposits in a casino; the issue often arises during withdrawals. To avoid hassle, many prefer to submit their KYC documents before fully engaging in gambling. As for me, I just follow the casino’s rules, and since I don’t bet huge amounts, I prefer to gamble in casinos that don’t require KYC.

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I have never done KYC without the casino asking for it, but I am sure it can be done because you just need to go to the verification section and do whatever is asked to make your account full KYC, but it is definitely not an option that many players will do where they are willing to do KYC up front without the casino asking for it first, even if I play at a new casino and they require KYC up front then I will not want to continue depositing there and prefer to play at the old casino, because KYC is not a fun thing and small gamblers probably will not experience the worry of being asked for KYC later if they win a lot, because winning a lot will be comparable to the deposit used in playing

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on September 08, 2024, 06:32:04 AM

Quote from: Tmoonz on September 08, 2024, 05:38:20 AM

Yes you can do your kyc before starting gambling in those gambling sites that requires kyc. But however, if the platforms allowed you to gamble without undergoing your kyc definitely at any point in time it happens that you win big amount of money they makes it compulsory before you can make withdrawal, and I don't see anything wrong in that I see it as a means of security and a kind of final verification to really get to know there customer good enough since it has come to do with huge amount, their interior motive is to know you better that is just the point and we have to play along.

Agreed, some gambling platforms allow gambling without KYC first, but we have to do KYC while withdrawing winnings. It is a must for security, KYC system is very beneficial for both the gambling platform and the player. Moreover, those platforms ensure security through KYC while paying you large sums of money. So the KYC process should not be thought of as a hindrance but it is rather an very important part of security.

KYC is abused by alot of casinos, they use this means to collect customers data to sell to advertising companies who then use the data to send targetted ads to you through various means, either by your social media accounts, or email address, or phone number.
Some casinos even sell those data to scammers who will use the details of another person to carry out a scam which they will definitely get away with, and the person who information the used for the scam will be accused of being the mastermind behind the scam.

So this is why even though kyc be a form of security for both the casino and the customers, it's still very important for us to be very careful on the casinos where we submit our personal information to, to avoid our information being abused or misused.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on September 08, 2024, 05:38:20 AM

Yes you can do your kyc before starting gambling in those gambling sites that requires kyc. But however, if the platforms allowed you to gamble without undergoing your kyc definitely at any point in time it happens that you win big amount of money they makes it compulsory before you can make withdrawal, and I don't see anything wrong in that I see it as a means of security and a kind of final verification to really get to know there customer good enough since it has come to do with huge amount, their interior motive is to know you better that is just the point and we have to play along.

Agreed, some gambling platforms allow gambling without KYC first, but we have to do KYC while withdrawing winnings. It is a must for security, KYC system is very beneficial for both the gambling platform and the player. Moreover, those platforms ensure security through KYC while paying you large sums of money. So the KYC process should not be thought of as a hindrance but it is rather an very important part of security.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on May 01, 2024, 11:56:35 AM

Quote from: _act_ on May 01, 2024, 11:11:45 AM

That is how gambling sites are. Most of them will not demand for KYC from you as long as you are losing, but if you win and want to withdraw some money, they will go through your account and tell you to do necessary things before you can withdraw and requesting for your identity through KYC can be among the requirements.

My topics originates from the comment of this user above in this thread where the OP is writing to seek about KYC stuff. The link to it will be at the end of the topic.

I know casinos do this. I have experienced it too. It is also in their T&C. My question for casino lovers is that instead of waiting until we win big and are asked to submit KYC documents, will you do it before the casino management or administrator request of it? Is there anyone who has gone ahead to fill out and submit their KYC on their account or by asking their customer support for it way before they even start make a request.

Link to original post described in the OP - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcgame-asking-for-kyc-before-letting-me-withdraw-5494948

Yes you can do your kyc before starting gambling in those gambling sites that requires kyc. But however, if the platforms allowed you to gamble without undergoing your kyc definitely at any point in time it happens that you win big amount of money they makes it compulsory before you can make withdrawal, and I don't see anything wrong in that I see it as a means of security and a kind of final verification to really get to know there customer good enough since it has come to do with huge amount, their interior motive is to know you better that is just the point and we have to play along.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on May 01, 2024, 11:56:35 AM

Quote from: _act_ on May 01, 2024, 11:11:45 AM

That is how gambling sites are. Most of them will not demand for KYC from you as long as you are losing, but if you win and want to withdraw some money, they will go through your account and tell you to do necessary things before you can withdraw and requesting for your identity through KYC can be among the requirements.

My topics originates from the comment of this user above in this thread where the OP is writing to seek about KYC stuff. The link to it will be at the end of the topic.

I know casinos do this. I have experienced it too. It is also in their T&C. My question for casino lovers is that instead of waiting until we win big and are asked to submit KYC documents, will you do it before the casino management or administrator request of it? Is there anyone who has gone ahead to fill out and submit their KYC on their account or by asking their customer support for it way before they even start make a request.

Link to original post described in the OP - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcgame-asking-for-kyc-before-letting-me-withdraw-5494948

This is a completely normal situation. I always do this.
If I know that I will soon start playing big in a certain online casino, then I go through a full identity verification there in advance, so that when I win big there, I do not have to deal with the fact that my potential winnings will be withheld by the owners of the online casino.

It's a pity I didn't know earlier that casinos can do this, because I still have two winnings that I haven't withdrawn from the casino.

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