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Topic: Canaan Avalon A7 Group Buy - Hosting at CryptoBoreas (Canada) - page 4. (Read 9596 times)

legendary
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Just out of curiosity I recalculated the shipping costs but for 10 units and the shipping cost per unit does go down -  to $132 USD to be precise. I suppose the price will go down even further if more units are shipped at the same time, although with DHL apparently the most their online tool will let me calculate is 10.
legendary
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Well guys, I have some bad news. I did a quick shipping calculation. I used Chengdo which is the nearest major city cause the actual city the gear is located in is not recognized by any of the shipping calculators (Chengdo is like several kilometers from the location so it's not far at all). Shipping cost directly to us with DHL is CNY1,363.84 which is $196 USD which is a deal killer. UPS is even more expensive. This is PER A7!

sr. member
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PM or better, email me at [email protected] once there is a resolution. Thanks
legendary
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Guys, don't forget that you also need controllers for these! Also the USB to serial adapters are necessary and we don't know how many the seller has so it has to be priced in and paid for as well. I think when he means per unit he means _just_ for the A7 box itself without any of the accessories.
hero member
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Alan,
I'd be interested in 2 hosted at Cryptoboreas. They could replace two of my S7s.
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
661.78 US

Looks like a good price

EDIT: He said A6 on the other thread... A7 or A6 ?

A7. Corrected.

Eric - I am talking to Alan and may take 20 units pending my group's final decision. Thanks

Guys - any takers, we can share the DHL and customs costs. Thanks
legendary
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That's actually a reasonable price. I'd like to grab a few for sure if shipping is reasonable. I may also be able to find you a client that can grab 50 or so and host them with us. Any way you can calculate shipping costs to Labrador, Canada, postal code: A0P1C0

Or alternatively PM me the address and info they'd be shipping from so I can try to calculate the shipping costs myself. I presume DHL would be an available option in your area, no?


I will need to do some research - had no prior experience with international shipping aside from occasional legal documents. But think DHL is available tho quite pricy.

Well, we'd naturally go for the cheapest shipping option. I typically send Bitmain gear via DHL or UPS. But Bitmain gets massive bulk shipping discounts which you/we likely can never get.
sr. member
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That's actually a reasonable price. I'd like to grab a few for sure if shipping is reasonable. I may also be able to find you a client that can grab 50 or so and host them with us. Any way you can calculate shipping costs to Labrador, Canada, postal code: A0P1C0

Or alternatively PM me the address and info they'd be shipping from so I can try to calculate the shipping costs myself. I presume DHL would be an available option in your area, no?


I will need to do some research - had no prior experience with international shipping aside from occasional legal documents. But think DHL is available tho quite pricy.
hero member
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Yeah 2 depending on shipping cost.
legendary
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That's actually a reasonable price. I'd like to grab a few for sure if shipping is reasonable. I may also be able to find you a client that can grab 50 or so and host them with us. Any way you can calculate shipping costs to Labrador, Canada, postal code: A0P1C0

Or alternatively PM me the address and info they'd be shipping from so I can try to calculate the shipping costs myself. I presume DHL would be an available option in your area, no?


Alan,

If you end up buying/shipping some of these to your facility I would like to grab a few as well to host with you

Sounds good. Let me coordinate with the seller and figure out if shipping costs are worth it. By a few you mean like 2?
hero member
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That's actually a reasonable price. I'd like to grab a few for sure if shipping is reasonable. I may also be able to find you a client that can grab 50 or so and host them with us. Any way you can calculate shipping costs to Labrador, Canada, postal code: A0P1C0

Or alternatively PM me the address and info they'd be shipping from so I can try to calculate the shipping costs myself. I presume DHL would be an available option in your area, no?


Alan,

If you end up buying/shipping some of these to your facility I would like to grab a few as well to host with you
legendary
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That's actually a reasonable price. I'd like to grab a few for sure if shipping is reasonable. I may also be able to find you a client that can grab 50 or so and host them with us. Any way you can calculate shipping costs to Labrador, Canada, postal code: A0P1C0

Or alternatively PM me the address and info they'd be shipping from so I can try to calculate the shipping costs myself. I presume DHL would be an available option in your area, no?
sr. member
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661.78 US

Looks like a good price

EDIT: He said A6 on the other thread... A7 or A6 ?

A7. Corrected.
legendary
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661.78 US

Looks like a good price

EDIT: He said A6 on the other thread... A7 or A6 ?
sr. member
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A client who is currently hosting 200 A7s is looking to divest. He expects to sell for RMB 4,650 per unit (stripped down; no PSU or Raspberry Pie included ).

I am currently hosting these rigs and can testify they are very stable (unlike the S9s next door belonging to another customer which has been a source of constant headache ).

EDIT: Not the customer - he has been very sweet.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
sr. member
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my order should have arrived  instead fedex sent the classic fuck you customs delay form letter that others get for this item.

So now I wait and see how long the delay is. 

So I am out a 25 dollar fee for sending btc.
And I am now waiting for at least monday which would have been 3 days of mining.  that is about 25 more dollars .

Well at least I have an r4 on the way from bitmaintech.

and a 4.5kh gpu farm

Its good to hear at least you got to get a R4 yesterday. They are solid from what I hear and make good space heaters in populated rooms. I was going to point out how for $2160 you could have gotten 16Th at 1700w and get it delivered at about the same time from bitmain instead. I always get my stuff from them within a few days. Sounds like Avalon really screwed up on their end of customs because I have never once had a customs delay from bitmain.

I'm not all 100% for bitmain but at least I can still make a profit on what I've bought from them, however small at times. I normally wouldn't go off topic on someone elses group buy thread, but this one seems done for thanks to avalons response to discounts. So hears what I got to say about avalon for those willing to listen.

A personal story:

I won't buy Avalon not just for the stupid price but also because of what they did in 2013. I've gone off on it before, but they cost 100's if not 1,000's of people tens of millions of dollars, BFL style, and claimed that they were robbed for our chips by the "Chinese Mafia". Seriously.

It was one of those Mt. Gox moments that made a large portion of the then massive community leave for good.

I didn't get burned for more than a few thousand dollars by Avalon in 2013 but I personally know people who lost multitudes more. Same as in Gox and almost every other exchange up till Bitfinex just a few months ago. It's made me feel bad for introducing every single person I ever have to bitcoin because we all lost most if not all of our coins in 2013 till now to some kind of "exchange hack" or undelivered asic.

The problem with avalon was they had delivered a batch or two first, thus being the only company who we thought would deliver for sure on time. Once they had everyone onboard and literally hundereds of thousands of coins from tons of people already in hand (back when they were only $100 a coin) they pulled the rug out and delayed forever untill the chips were worthless. It might have been worse than BFL, just not as public because it was a forum only thing really. One could say the biggest group buy of all time.

The final insult was with a story about being extorted by the chinese mafia as the reason for the delay. If I have the time I'll find a link to the original post where the company tells the story. Im not making this up. If you were around back then you know exactly what I'm talking about.

A year later they come back as an "new honest company" that will deliver from now on...

Can you tell I still fell raw about it?  Roll Eyes

This price point is an absolute insult, not an honest attempt at competition. They are building the shit out of these and are quickly taking over a large portion of the network. But they don't really want to sell you any or let you in on the action in the slightest. Nah. Why would they?

By making these at cost by the tens of thousands and deploying them themselves they can afford to expand massively from 2017-2020 with BTC priced over $750 and the dollar exchanging so favorably with their currency.

Its the ultimate masterstroke in a years long saga of the biggest "Fuck You" I've ever seen in my life.
hero member
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They all claim they doesn't want centralization.

This is clearly pure bullshit now.

We have Bitmain selling us the S9, which is a piece of crap. Either you're lucky or not with your gear. 90 days warranty = LOL

Then we had hope with Canaan to give us a very reputable solid miner even for a premium price i would be buying them over the S9.

But it's way overprice and less efficient. We are hoping that a group by would have put the price down to something more acceptable (Like freaking 365 days of ROI)

But no, buy 1000 units and we will talk.

Bitcoin is all about centralization now

Bitfury doesn't even gave us a freaking chip like 6 months after they mine with it. They were so proud to tell us they would share it to the public.

I'm pissed off.
Bitfury and more precisely Punin is actually working together with sidehack (see his thread) and will provide chips for him.
This is a sure thing that I know.

Now two not so sure things are:
Bitfury providing chips for asiabtc's a.k.a. LightningAsic's new 16nm miner.
Bitfury providing chip for en.hotmine.io S1/S3/S5 re-fit boards.

Anyway it seems like Bitfury is the only company who is putting a little effort in to the decentralization.

I'm sorry to hear that things went like this with Canaan  Undecided

I am having trouble finding the link for the Bitfury Chips that are being sold to sidehack for development. Could someone point me in that direction that sounds promising.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1651958.0;topicseen
jr. member
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They all claim they doesn't want centralization.

This is clearly pure bullshit now.

We have Bitmain selling us the S9, which is a piece of crap. Either you're lucky or not with your gear. 90 days warranty = LOL

Then we had hope with Canaan to give us a very reputable solid miner even for a premium price i would be buying them over the S9.

But it's way overprice and less efficient. We are hoping that a group by would have put the price down to something more acceptable (Like freaking 365 days of ROI)

But no, buy 1000 units and we will talk.

Bitcoin is all about centralization now

Bitfury doesn't even gave us a freaking chip like 6 months after they mine with it. They were so proud to tell us they would share it to the public.

I'm pissed off.
Bitfury and more precisely Punin is actually working together with sidehack (see his thread) and will provide chips for him.
This is a sure thing that I know.

Now two not so sure things are:
Bitfury providing chips for asiabtc's a.k.a. LightningAsic's new 16nm miner.
Bitfury providing chip for en.hotmine.io S1/S3/S5 re-fit boards.

Anyway it seems like Bitfury is the only company who is putting a little effort in to the decentralization.

I'm sorry to hear that things went like this with Canaan  Undecided

I am having trouble finding the link for the Bitfury Chips that are being sold to sidehack for development. Could someone point me in that direction that sounds promising.
legendary
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Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
my order should have arrived  instead fedex sent the classic fuck you customs delay form letter that others get for this item.

So now I wait and see how long the delay is. 

So I am out a 25 dollar fee for sending btc.
And I am now waiting for at least monday which would have been 3 days of mining.  that is about 25 more dollars .

Well at least I have an r4 on the way from bitmaintech.

and a 4.5kh gpu farm
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