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Topic: CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official] Developments & Discussions - page 212. (Read 706133 times)

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I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin

  that they did do. multiple back stabs and hard hits below the belt. and all that after offering a handshake.


Everyone keeps saying stuff like this without backing it up. As someone who has no idea what happened I'd like to make my own judgements by seeing the evidence.
Can anyone help fill me in and show me what happened? These threads are a mess.

I wrote this a while ago about what happened. After all that there were some CCN people who posted here asking questions and aiming to stir up trouble. I haven't seen it in ages though to be honest.       
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I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin

  that they did do. multiple back stabs and hard hits below the belt. and all that after offering a handshake.


Everyone keeps saying stuff like this without backing it up. As someone who has no idea what happened I'd like to make my own judgements by seeing the evidence.
Can anyone help fill me in and show me what happened? These threads are a mess.

 you are correct to criticize, but the info is all there, but it would be hours of research ... (and i have no agenda with either cann or ccn) just start reading on page one in the unmoderated thread ...

   ... look for the serious fudding to start a few days b4 ~10/20
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I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin

  that they did do. multiple back stabs and hard hits below the belt. and all that after offering a handshake.


Everyone keeps saying stuff like this without backing it up. As someone who has no idea what happened I'd like to make my own judgements by seeing the evidence.
Can anyone help fill me in and show me what happened? These threads are a mess.
legendary
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I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin

  that they did do. multiple back stabs and hard hits below the belt. and all that after offering a handshake.
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Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided


Hi deemington

perhaps I can clarify just a little for you Smiley

I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin and so perhaps a defensive posture is a sensible default. That's for individuals to decide for themselves.

With regard to "people asking genuine questions", that is based on peoples' expectations of CannabisCoin and perhaps a misunderstanding of its purpose.

Some people seem to think that buying and selling altcoins is something other than gambling. Heck, some even mistake altcoins for stocks and believe themselves to be "investors". Don't laugh, they really do! Some of these individuals mistake the various altcoin fora for stockholders meetings where, as stockholders, they have the rights to demand answers and insist on actions being taken to increase the value of their holdings. They tend to lose sight of the fact DeltaNine (∆9) is funding the facilities and grows himself and that CannabisCoin holders are not providing these funds, nor do they hold any portion nor share of the facilities nor any of the product therefrom. If these misguided individuals actually did attempt to perform due diligence they would have discovered that CANN is not a company but that the coins are intended to facilitate medical marijuana (mmj) patients gaining cheaper access to their medications. They would have realized that requests for coin value-pumping news titbits and pictures are likely to be seen as irrelevant to the task of providing patients with cheaper high-quality medications. Reading through the readily available information and listening to what ∆9 has to say in the videos tells me that he is not putting in all this effort to enrich people who speculate [read: gamble] on CannabisCoin. He is on a mission to help mmj patients.

tl;dr:

CannabisCoin has been under attack and so people might be right to be defensive. Altcoins are not stocks. ∆9 is on a mission to get quality mmj to patients cheaply. It is not his mission to enrich people attempting to profit from his efforts. The only truly legitimate question is, what can you do to help?

I offer the above with absolutely no malice of intent but merely an attempt to help you and others understand why some posts elicit the responses that they do.

The opinions expressed above are my own. The are not meant to represent DeltaNine, CANN, CannabisCoin, CANNdy or the medical marijuana movement, with whom I hold no office, position or relationship beyond that of supporter.


A defensive posture is in no way a sensible default. I think it is important that things are kept as open as possible. You say DeltaNine is on a mission to help MMJ patients only and doesn't care about speculation... then why even bother launching a coin here? He could just grow the weed and give it to dispensaries or use some kind of private token system. From what you've said it sounds like everyone speculating (which is pretty much everyone at the moment) are just a headache. Why is there a subreddit, IRC channel and dedicated forum? If it isn't about speculation/prices then the only reason I can think of is for the community. If people's questions are getting ignored or written off as FUD then there will be no community.

The Devs sold a lot of CANN at the height of the pump, as did many, and so in a way people are invested in this project. There was a lot hype about the Peg and the 'event' which is fine but to say that none of this is about speculation just isn't correct. I get that DeltaNine is putting a lot of his own money into this but being a bit more open would go a long way (including from within the community). From what I understand the long term plan is that there will be more growers who would come forward and keep the project going? Therefore the whole long term success of the project comes from people who might not even know anything about it yet. The next person people accuse of being a fudder could be someone that could do a great deal for the coin.  

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The only truly legitimate question is, what can you do to help?

Why would people want to help something that they don't understand? I have been following CANN for a long time so I know what is going on but when people come here and ask questions or want titbits of news then they should be embraced and feel part of the 'movement'. It doesn't take much effort but could have massive benefits. Instead it is just very quiet apart from talk about CCN and FUD.  


There was something I was half considering doing which could have contributed to CANN. For it to happen it would have helped a lot if it made it on to coinpayments.net. In the end CANN only received 3 votes. That is just sad and reflects the fact that the community isn't really enthusiastic or bothered.
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Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided


Hi deemington

perhaps I can clarify just a little for you Smiley

I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin and so perhaps a defensive posture is a sensible default. That's for individuals to decide for themselves.

With regard to "people asking genuine questions", that is based on peoples' expectations of CannabisCoin and perhaps a misunderstanding of its purpose.

Some people seem to think that buying and selling altcoins is something other than gambling. Heck, some even mistake altcoins for stocks and believe themselves to be "investors". Don't laugh, they really do! Some of these individuals mistake the various altcoin fora for stockholders meetings where, as stockholders, they have the rights to demand answers and insist on actions being taken to increase the value of their holdings. They tend to lose sight of the fact DeltaNine (∆9) is funding the facilities and grows himself and that CannabisCoin holders are not providing these funds, nor do they hold any portion nor share of the facilities nor any of the product therefrom. If these misguided individuals actually did attempt to perform due diligence they would have discovered that CANN is not a company but that the coins are intended to facilitate medical marijuana (mmj) patients gaining cheaper access to their medications. They would have realized that requests for coin value-pumping news titbits and pictures are likely to be seen as irrelevant to the task of providing patients with cheaper high-quality medications. Reading through the readily available information and listening to what ∆9 has to say in the videos tells me that he is not putting in all this effort to enrich people who speculate [read: gamble] on CannabisCoin. He is on a mission to help mmj patients.

tl;dr:

CannabisCoin has been under attack and so people might be right to be defensive. Altcoins are not stocks. ∆9 is on a mission to get quality mmj to patients cheaply. It is not his mission to enrich people attempting to profit from his efforts. The only truly legitimate question is, what can you do to help?

I offer the above with absolutely no malice of intent but merely an attempt to help you and others understand why some posts elicit the responses that they do.

The opinions expressed above are my own. The are not meant to represent DeltaNine, CANN, CannabisCoin, CANNdy or the medical marijuana movement, with whom I hold no office, position or relationship beyond that of supporter.



newbie
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Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided

As they have been trying to slackmail us the whole time.

I haven't seen much of this recently. Nearly every coin gets trolled/fudded but I have never seen a community fall for the bait so hard as this. Usually they are just ignored but here we are talking about CCN again.     
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Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided

As they have been trying to slackmail us the whole time.
newbie
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Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided
legendary
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Clearly you have some fancy with CCN. Competition much? They should start paying you for all the advertising you do for their campaign, you probably just raised the price a few hundred satoshi's.
Hmm not sure about the few hundred satoshi's. Coinmarketcap shows CNN as (-10.06 %) with a trade volume of 0 BTC, but that is because they don't show float numbers for that. Was about $109 world wide, global trade volume today. You should probably not compare with a coin that has factor twenty five as much trade going on, daily. Just the numbers.
It's not comparable they are bunch of trolls, fudders and spammers (CNN)...CANN is the way to go Wink
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Money often costs too much.
Clearly you have some fancy with CCN. Competition much? They should start paying you for all the advertising you do for their campaign, you probably just raised the price a few hundred satoshi's.
Hmm not sure about the few hundred satoshi's. Coinmarketcap shows CNN as (-10.06 %) with a trade volume of 0 BTC, but that is because they don't show float numbers for that. Was about $109 world wide, global trade volume today. You should probably not compare with a coin that has factor twenty five as much trade going on, daily. Just the numbers.
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Thanx happytoexist I thought you was talking to me. My mistake :-)
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http://twitter.com/CannabisCoins
^^

So what are we talkin about here?

Anyway, looking forward for the next update!

By the way, last time I'm spamming you with this.

The 3D Printed CannabisCoin Grinder are still available on ISG3D.com for 2300 CANN, shipping included!



We had an order of 10 grinders and a few individual orders on twitter, thanks for the support!

These look good!
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Mmm no my dad was english and my mum was russian. So I was born in the UK but grew up with 2 languages. Plus I am dyslexic and try my best with my english but I do struggle. In regards to the I am not so bright. Well takes one to know one lol I have more brightness and inteligence than you have on you left finger.

Пepecтaeт быть cтoль гpyбыe и ocкopбитeльныe

My comment was directed at BlockaFett, I was backing you up.
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I like that grinder, a good friend of mine smokes for arthritis and she would love one of them grinders. You ship to the UK ?

I will send you a private message with more info, I think we are shipping if the cost are not very high. I will talk with my guy at ISG3D.

Thanks!

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I like that grinder, a good friend of mine smokes for arthritis and she would love one of them grinders. You ship to the UK ?
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^^

So what are we talkin about here?

Anyway, looking forward for the next update!

By the way, last time I'm spamming you with this.

The 3D Printed CannabisCoin Grinder are still available on ISG3D.com for 2300 CANN, shipping included!



We had an order of 10 grinders and a few individual orders on twitter, thanks for the support!
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Mmm no my dad was english and my mum was russian. So I was born in the UK but grew up with 2 languages. Plus I am dyslexic and try my best with my english but I do struggle. In regards to the I am not so bright. Well takes one to know one lol I have more brightness and inteligence than you have on you left finger.

Пepecтaeт быть cтoль гpyбыe и ocкopбитeльныe
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What you mean by fake newbie accounts, I don't understand ? First I can give you my name and my website that I run for a local business in the UK and happy to put my Bitcoin address on here.

So instead of getting to know people and accusing people of being a fake new account. Get your facts right.

lolz


Thats not wrote by an English speaking person!
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What you mean by fake newbie accounts, I don't understand ? First I can give you my name and my website that I run for a local business in the UK and happy to put my Bitcoin address on here.

So instead of getting to know people and accusing people of being a fake new account. Get your facts right.

lolz

You're not too bright, are you son?
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