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Grin Grin Grin

We need to start passing out shill account of the week award.

You guys in this thread are hilarious, or should I say you guy....(singular)

shame shame on you

Why patrick? Do you think you'd win? Can't see anyone giving you anything but a loud Phthrrbt! but it's never stopped you before, has it?

I have wondered, in passing, just what you hope to gain by throwing all the shit you do. Expecting it to fertilize ccn, perhaps? It won't work lad, just makes people think you have something to hide in your closed-source wannabe payment platform. Is that it? You're trying misdirection to pull a scam? You must have some motivation for all this nonsense.

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Grin Grin Grin

We need to start passing out shill account of the week award.

You guys in this thread are hilarious, or should I say you guy....(singular)

shame shame on you

hello CANN community
very intersting this guy crypto_knight respond here on cann thread because annoyed with my real questions on CCN thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cannacoin-ccn-pow-posv-no-premine-no-ipo-740903
he is confirm now as this user cannacoin/subcreative and still trolling cann community with post above.

crypto_knight = subcreative aka dev cannacoin shitcoin very bad reputation
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Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.


lol...best joke of the day  Grin Grin Grin
The person who has several shell accounts feels that everyone is like him
Dudes (CCN team as whole)...how low can you guys go further.. won't there be anytime when you guys would stop bitching around.

And don´t forget these CCN devs are REAL criminals and thieves... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.360

scammers gonna scam bro.  CCN will be delisted from exchanges soon due to low volume, hopefully they move onto their next scam and not spend all day making newbie accounts to FUD here. such fail.


Great, CCN=Shit
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Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.


lol...best joke of the day  Grin Grin Grin
The person who has several shell accounts feels that everyone is like him
Dudes (CCN team as whole)...how low can you guys go further.. won't there be anytime when you guys would stop bitching around.

And don´t forget these CCN devs are REAL criminals and thieves... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.360

scammers gonna scam bro.  CCN will be delisted from exchanges soon due to low volume, hopefully they move onto their next scam and not spend all day making newbie accounts to FUD here. such fail.
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look forward to this because real cannabis use.
spoke with local shops to accept CANN
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OK, steady people Smiley

Let's just talk about how great the YES WE CANN movement is. Wink

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Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.


lol...best joke of the day  Grin Grin Grin
The person who has several shell accounts feels that everyone is like him
Dudes (CCN team as whole)...how low can you guys go further.. won't there be anytime when you guys would stop bitching around.

And don´t forget these CCN devs are REAL criminals and thieves... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.360
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Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.


lol...best joke of the day  Grin Grin Grin
The person who has several shell accounts feels that everyone is like him
Dudes (CCN team as whole)...how low can you guys go further.. won't there be anytime when you guys would stop bitching around.
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Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.

Ha! Is that the best you got? Fortunately people can check my posts and see how full o' crap you are Smiley

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To put your question to rest Crypto_knight.

"Self-funded" means the grow is funded by myself and the growers (supporters) who have committed to the movement. It is NOT funded by proceeds of selling CANN.
"Supporters" meaning direct growers and farmers whom follow the movement.

I do not sell CANN as you are trying to insinuate to everyone here.



BTW,

I'm back and will be closing up loose ends here today and will be back online in a bit.

~DeltaNine


You close up the loose ends and I will start doing some PR work for you if you need? I'm very good at what I do and I have experience in this field of work. If you could help everyone by putting our minds and ease, give us something to hold on to I will continue building the CANN store that me and one of your (Devs ) Eco have been talking about.
As I said I will also do some PR work for you. I can handle the forum questions and so forth just as I do for the Vidioshare Dev (Nerio). I have done a lot, and if you go through the Vidioshare BCT thread you will see what my presence does for that community. I was put in charge of the explainer and it turned out amazing. You guys need a explainer and I can have it done in 4-5 days if you feel the need. If I had to be honest this community needs the some of the same TLC when it comes to keeping the community informed. Please message me if you could use my help.

-trade2winnn


Great offer... trade2winn did and does an amazing Job at the vidioshare thread...

Thanks! Lets hope Delta 9 can add me in on the crew. 1 person can't run the whole darn thing.
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@deemington

You are correct, a defensive posture is not welcoming and demonstrates a certain success on the part of james and patrick and all their little sock puppets du jour. As a community we should not respond to their well-poisoning efforts in this way. I do not excuse or condone it, merely try to explain it. I agree that people should be welcomed to the movement but I also think it reasonable that people should be expected to at least read the OP.

As far as your not seeing the fud I should thank tokyopotato's "crypto_knight" persona for providing an example right on cue. One might wonder if "happytoexist" is one of jamesonwa's noms de guerre, if they were that interesting.

@elmanager

I think you missed the entire point. DeltaNine is out in the community explaining what he wants to build. In no way does he have to show you or anyone else what he is doing. The man is not here to provide entertainment nor to pump the value of CANN. It is your choice and yours alone to stripmine CANN with 250Mhs and you are not "owed" any effort to increase your returns.

@blakeaholics

In a nutshell, CANN was originally a scrypt coin with a 1% premine and max coin supply of 500,000,000 (500 Million), released 4/20/14 and was later swapped to the X11 algorithm with a maximum coin supply of 92,000,000 (92 Million) coins. Part of this transition involved a coin swap, old for new. To facilitate this enough coins had to be generated in a premine to cover all outstanding scrypt coins, some 21 Million plus coins when the scrypt version was stopped at block 52080, IIRC. These coins had low value at the time and a chunk may even have been mined by the dev but the bottom line is that many were not claimed and simply sent to offline wallets and forgotten about.

Six months after the initial launch the first pegged exchange of 1 CANN = 1 gram took place and coin speculators drove the price of CANN to almost 20K sat (BTC0.00020000) and the boys from cannacoin (CCN) went batshit crazy.

They hung their hats on two facts, namely that there were millions of unexchanged coins still on the block chain and that the 1:1 exchange of the 1% premine represented 5.4% of the new, reduced coin supply.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, ∆9 simply "burned" the majority of the left-over unexchanged coins by sending them to addresses for which there are no private keys, essentially destroying them. I call this unfortunate because I believe ∆9 deserved them as recompense for what he is spending setting up the grow sites and the crops to be donated for CANNdy supply or at least that they be used as a donor fund to supply mmj to patients when CANN inevitably rises to near-parity pricing some time in the future. The noise and distress created by team CCN made this impractical and ∆9 simply eliminated the source of contention (the coins that is, not team CCN).

On the second point, that the 1:1 exchange increased the premine percentage, that would be important if ∆9 was a pump-and-dump scammer attempting to enrich himself at the expense of everyone else. Since he is pouring his own funds into the enterprise and allowing others to enrich themselves from his efforts it becomes a complete non-issue. If he eventually makes money out of the commercial grows and gains from his CANN holding then more power to him, although I suspect he is more likely to donate his CANN than sell it.

Those rascally young fellows from CCN, however, have been relentlessly attempting to spin the above into a portrait of wrongdoing by ∆9. Despite having been told repeatedly they continue to claim they are onto some great scandal and insinuate that ∆9 is somehow trying to defraud the innocent and altruistically-intentioned cryptocurrency community. And if you believe that they'll tell you another.

Regards from the land down-under Smiley



Nice shell account "B4zz4", we know you are really D9.
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@deemington

You are correct, a defensive posture is not welcoming and demonstrates a certain success on the part of james and patrick and all their little sock puppets du jour. As a community we should not respond to their well-poisoning efforts in this way. I do not excuse or condone it, merely try to explain it. I agree that people should be welcomed to the movement but I also think it reasonable that people should be expected to at least read the OP.

As far as your not seeing the fud goes I should thank tokyopotato's "crypto_knight" persona for providing an example right on cue. One might wonder if "happytoexist" is one of jamesonwa's noms de guerre, if they were that interesting.

Update - forgot one of your points:

Sorry deemington, you said

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"The Devs sold a lot of CANN at the height of the pump... "


Do you have any evidence of that or are you just repeating team CCN's slurs and assertions? As far as I know that is a completely false statement but I am prepared to look at evidence to the contrary if you have any. Given your position as a writer on things crypto I would think you'd want to either support or retract that statement. I would hate to think the fact you used to work with tokyopotato negatively influenced the research for your writing.

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@elmanager

I think you missed the entire point. DeltaNine is out in the community explaining what he wants to build. In no way does he have to show you or anyone else what he is doing. The man is not here to provide entertainment nor to pump the value of CANN. It is your choice and yours alone to stripmine CANN with 250Mhs and you are not "owed" any effort to increase your returns.

@blakeaholics

In a nutshell, CANN was originally a scrypt coin with a 1% premine and max coin supply of 500,000,000 (500 Million), released 4/20/14 and was later swapped to the X11 algorithm with a maximum coin supply of 92,000,000 (92 Million) coins. Part of this transition involved a coin swap, old for new. To facilitate this enough coins had to be generated in a premine to cover all outstanding scrypt coins, some 21 Million plus coins when the scrypt version was stopped at block 52080, IIRC. These coins had low value at the time and a chunk may even have been mined by the dev but the bottom line is that many were not claimed and simply sent to offline wallets and forgotten about.

Six months after the initial launch the first pegged exchange of 1 CANN = 1 gram took place and coin speculators drove the price of CANN to almost 20K sat (BTC0.00020000) and the boys from cannacoin (CCN) went batshit crazy.

They hung their hats on two facts, namely that there were millions of unexchanged coins still on the block chain and that the 1:1 exchange of the 1% premine represented 5.4% of the new, reduced coin supply.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, ∆9 simply "burned" the majority of the left-over unexchanged coins by sending them to addresses for which there are no private keys, essentially destroying them. I call this unfortunate because I believe ∆9 deserved them as recompense for what he is spending setting up the grow sites and the crops to be donated for CANNdy supply or at least that they be used as a donor fund to supply mmj to patients when CANN inevitably rises to near-parity pricing some time in the future. The noise and distress created by team CCN made this impractical and ∆9 simply eliminated the source of contention (the coins that is, not team CCN).

On the second point, that the 1:1 exchange increased the premine percentage, that would be important if ∆9 was a pump-and-dump scammer attempting to enrich himself at the expense of everyone else. Since he is pouring his own funds into the enterprise and allowing others to enrich themselves from his efforts it becomes a complete non-issue. If he eventually makes money out of the commercial grows and gains from his CANN holding then more power to him, although I suspect he is more likely to donate his CANN than sell it.

Those rascally young fellows from CCN, however, have been relentlessly attempting to spin the above into a portrait of wrongdoing by ∆9. Despite having been told repeatedly they continue to claim they are onto some great scandal and insinuate that ∆9 is somehow trying to defraud the innocent and altruistically-intentioned cryptocurrency community. And if you believe that they'll tell you another.

Regards from the land down-under Smiley

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To put your question to rest Crypto_knight.

"Self-funded" means the grow is funded by myself and the growers (supporters) who have committed to the movement. It is NOT funded by proceeds of selling CANN.
"Supporters" meaning direct growers and farmers whom follow the movement.

I do not sell CANN as you are trying to insinuate to everyone here.



BTW,

I'm back and will be closing up loose ends here today and will be back online in a bit.

~DeltaNine


You close up the loose ends and I will start doing some PR work for you if you need? I'm very good at what I do and I have experience in this field of work. If you could help everyone by putting our minds and ease, give us something to hold on to I will continue building the CANN store that me and one of your (Devs ) Eco have been talking about.
As I said I will also do some PR work for you. I can handle the forum questions and so forth just as I do for the Vidioshare Dev (Nerio). I have done a lot, and if you go through the Vidioshare BCT thread you will see what my presence does for that community. I was put in charge of the explainer and it turned out amazing. You guys need a explainer and I can have it done in 4-5 days if you feel the need. If I had to be honest this community needs the some of the same TLC when it comes to keeping the community informed. Please message me if you could use my help.

-trade2winnn


Great offer... trade2winn did and does an amazing Job at the vidioshare thread...
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The reason this thread seems dead is because D9 is removing any posts he doesn't like.

The developer made empty promises to create a pump that he dumped into. Now he is going to let the price grind lower by keeping us in the dark as he uses the profits from the first dump to accumulate as many coins as possible. When the grow is done, he will surprise announce it and then dump into the new pump.


Not sure if stupid, or mentally handicapped.
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To put your question to rest Crypto_knight.

"Self-funded" means the grow is funded by myself and the growers (supporters) who have committed to the movement. It is NOT funded by proceeds of selling CANN.
"Supporters" meaning direct growers and farmers whom follow the movement.

I do not sell CANN as you are trying to insinuate to everyone here.



BTW,

I'm back and will be closing up loose ends here today and will be back online in a bit.

~DeltaNine


You close up the loose ends and I will start doing some PR work for you if you need? I'm very good at what I do and I have experience in this field of work. If you could help everyone by putting our minds and ease, give us something to hold on to I will continue building the CANN store that me and one of your (Devs ) Eco have been talking about.
As I said I will also do some PR work for you. I can handle the forum questions and so forth just as I do for the Vidioshare Dev (Nerio). I have done a lot, and if you go through the Vidioshare BCT thread you will see what my presence does for that community. I was put in charge of the explainer and it turned out amazing. You guys need a explainer and I can have it done in 4-5 days if you feel the need. If I had to be honest this community needs the some of the same TLC when it comes to keeping the community informed. Please message me if you could use my help.

-trade2winnn
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The reason this thread seems dead is because D9 is removing any posts he doesn't like.

The developer made empty promises to create a pump that he dumped into. Now he is going to let the price grind lower by keeping us in the dark as he uses the profits from the first dump to accumulate as many coins as possible. When the grow is done, he will surprise announce it and then dump into the new pump.


So many newbies accounts like you Cheesy
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The reason this thread seems dead is because D9 is removing any posts he doesn't like.

The developer made empty promises to create a pump that he dumped into. Now he is going to let the price grind lower by keeping us in the dark as he uses the profits from the first dump to accumulate as many coins as possible. When the grow is done, he will surprise announce it and then dump into the new pump.
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The Official CannabisCoin Team [CANN]
To put your question to rest Crypto_knight.

"Self-funded" means the grow is funded by myself and the growers (supporters) who have committed to the movement. It is NOT funded by proceeds of selling CANN.
"Supporters" meaning direct growers and farmers whom follow the movement.

I do not sell CANN as you are trying to insinuate to everyone here.



BTW,

I'm back and will be closing up loose ends here today and will be back online in a bit.

~DeltaNine
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Cryptobulgarian ninja
Why is it that on IRC and BCT all people ever seem to talk about is CCN? I think people should move on and focus on CANN. I see people asking genuine questions and getting accused of being trolls because everyone is so paranoid.  Undecided


Hi deemington

perhaps I can clarify just a little for you Smiley

I assume you know the old saying about it not being paranoia when someone is genuinely out to get you? Well, the lads from CCN did put a major effort into trying to burn down CannabisCoin and so perhaps a defensive posture is a sensible default. That's for individuals to decide for themselves.

With regard to "people asking genuine questions", that is based on peoples' expectations of CannabisCoin and perhaps a misunderstanding of its purpose.

Some people seem to think that buying and selling altcoins is something other than gambling. Heck, some even mistake altcoins for stocks and believe themselves to be "investors". Don't laugh, they really do! Some of these individuals mistake the various altcoin fora for stockholders meetings where, as stockholders, they have the rights to demand answers and insist on actions being taken to increase the value of their holdings. They tend to lose sight of the fact DeltaNine (∆9) is funding the facilities and grows himself and that CannabisCoin holders are not providing these funds, nor do they hold any portion nor share of the facilities nor any of the product therefrom. If these misguided individuals actually did attempt to perform due diligence they would have discovered that CANN is not a company but that the coins are intended to facilitate medical marijuana (mmj) patients gaining cheaper access to their medications. They would have realized that requests for coin value-pumping news titbits and pictures are likely to be seen as irrelevant to the task of providing patients with cheaper high-quality medications. Reading through the readily available information and listening to what ∆9 has to say in the videos tells me that he is not putting in all this effort to enrich people who speculate [read: gamble] on CannabisCoin. He is on a mission to help mmj patients.

tl;dr:

CannabisCoin has been under attack and so people might be right to be defensive. Altcoins are not stocks. ∆9 is on a mission to get quality mmj to patients cheaply. It is not his mission to enrich people attempting to profit from his efforts. The only truly legitimate question is, what can you do to help?

I offer the above with absolutely no malice of intent but merely an attempt to help you and others understand why some posts elicit the responses that they do.

The opinions expressed above are my own. The are not meant to represent DeltaNine, CANN, CannabisCoin, CANNdy or the medical marijuana movement, with whom I hold no office, position or relationship beyond that of supporter.


A defensive posture is in no way a sensible default. I think it is important that things are kept as open as possible. You say DeltaNine is on a mission to help MMJ patients only and doesn't care about speculation... then why even bother launching a coin here? He could just grow the weed and give it to dispensaries or use some kind of private token system. From what you've said it sounds like everyone speculating (which is pretty much everyone at the moment) are just a headache. Why is there a subreddit, IRC channel and dedicated forum? If it isn't about speculation/prices then the only reason I can think of is for the community. If people's questions are getting ignored or written off as FUD then there will be no community.

The Devs sold a lot of CANN at the height of the pump, as did many, and so in a way people are invested in this project. There was a lot hype about the Peg and the 'event' which is fine but to say that none of this is about speculation just isn't correct. I get that DeltaNine is putting a lot of his own money into this but being a bit more open would go a long way (including from within the community). From what I understand the long term plan is that there will be more growers who would come forward and keep the project going? Therefore the whole long term success of the project comes from people who might not even know anything about it yet. The next person people accuse of being a fudder could be someone that could do a great deal for the coin.  

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The only truly legitimate question is, what can you do to help?

Why would people want to help something that they don't understand? I have been following CANN for a long time so I know what is going on but when people come here and ask questions or want titbits of news then they should be embraced and feel part of the 'movement'. It doesn't take much effort but could have massive benefits. Instead it is just very quiet apart from talk about CCN and FUD.  


There was something I was half considering doing which could have contributed to CANN. For it to happen it would have helped a lot if it made it on to coinpayments.net. In the end CANN only received 3 votes. That is just sad and reflects the fact that the community isn't really enthusiastic or bothered.


 I Agree with that!

  The Devs should show the activity they done! Until now everything they said that they done is only in my imagination. I'm thinking that I support CANN as I'm mining it with 250 MHs and before with more since more than 2 months.

   At least I want to see any normal pictures of what your growing, some meetings or future plans! There is no any fuds, It's just the inactivity of the Devs and the abandoned community!

   YES I CANN, but if I want!  Grin
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