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Topic: Casascius 10BTC Silver Round /w Gold B - page 3. (Read 12479 times)

legendary
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legendary
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March 21, 2015, 08:50:46 AM
#66

I think people that focus on the grades are a bit weird.

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legendary
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MONKEYNUTS
March 21, 2015, 08:13:32 AM
#65
Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?

Yes that are all Silver + Golds.  I wish I also had an all silver MS68 too.

Any idea who has the 3 gold and silver 68s ?

I now have the silver 0.1 68, but it's looking for a big brother 😊
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 06:37:14 AM
#64
Unfortunately, the ownly European Grading Institute is in Paris, France.
Other than that, you'd have to ship your coins to the US.

Good luck.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 02:23:40 AM
#63

I think people that focus on the grades are a bit weird. Not like it really matters. Most of these coins other than the very early brass ones were never circulated and handled like gems. They are all in mint condition unless you handled them like a retard. Besides, people that buy these coins are all over the world.  ANACS is just one in the US that does it. What if someone in Germany had a German grader grade it. or someone in Sweden have it graded. It's just a mess. What matters is that you have the coin. Majority of them other than the early brass are in excellent or mint condition. Stop wasting your time with this graded bullshit.

Can you give me a link to a German or Swedish coin grader that would be willing to grade a Casascius coin?
As far as I know, there are no Swedish or Danish coin graders at all and German coin graders only grade historical German coins.
Right now is there only one serious player for Crypto coins, ANACS.

The grading bullshit make sense for coins that change hands a lot, since the quality of the coin is defined, both buyer and seller, know the quality and there is less chance of a dispute. Further I like the image service that ANACS offer (optional), where a high res pictures are stored in the data base. Graded coins are great for selling online across the world, in most cases is not even a picture needed in your listing.

I have seen a ungraded Casascius Silver 1 BTC, perfect condition which I was willing to pay 2.5 BTC for, I have also seen the same type coin with a nasty nick and a scratch on the hologram, which I was only willing to pay 1.8 BTC for, that is more than 30% price different.  

Grading bullshit is also good for coins like error coins, since these had no numismatic value to begin with, so they have been carried around in pockets and thrown around in the office while others have been kept nicely in a plastic capsule, obviously these have very different quality. I am sure that there are more than 30% different in the price between the best and the worse.

For a coin like the one you have here. I would not even consider grading it, I can totally follow you here, grading is bullshit for a 10 BTC Casascius.
The higher the numismatic value are the less sense does it make to grade the coin.
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 11:27:11 PM
#62
Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?

Yes that are all Silver + Golds.  I wish I also had an all silver MS68 too.

I think people that focus on the grades are a bit weird. Not like it really matters. Most of these coins other than the very early brass ones were never circulated and handled like gems. They are all in mint condition unless you handled them like a retard. Besides, people that buy these coins are all over the world.  ANACS is just one in the US that does it. What if someone in Germany had a German grader grade it. or someone in Sweden have it graded. It's just a mess. What matters is that you have the coin. Majority of them other than the early brass are in excellent or mint condition. Stop wasting your time with this graded bullshit.

Personally I would pay more for the 10BTC silver round /w gold B than the solid-silver one. Sure there are less of them but I think the coins with the gold B are much more attractive and desirable. I feel the majority would agree.

Grades are all about the strike quality of the coin. If you compare several of the same coin types some are nicer than others. The more a die is used etc.. Can directly effect the quality of the coin. Grades are important for people to know just how good their coin is versus another. Grading them also vacuum seals them in a slab which is the best long term storage you can do for a coin. ANACS is not the only company that grades them, but they are the best.

I agree the gold BTC on a single or 10 carries a higher premium.
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 11:20:37 PM
#61
Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?

Yes that are all Silver + Golds.  I wish I also had an all silver MS68 too.

I think people that focus on the grades are a bit weird. Not like it really matters. Most of these coins other than the very early brass ones were never circulated and handled like gems. They are all in mint condition unless you handled them like a retard. Besides, people that buy these coins are all over the world.  ANACS is just one in the US that does it. What if someone in Germany had a German grader grade it. or someone in Sweden have it graded. It's just a mess. What matters is that you have the coin. Majority of them other than the early brass are in excellent or mint condition. Stop wasting your time with this graded bullshit.

Personally I would pay more for the 10BTC silver round /w gold B than the solid-silver one. Sure there are less of them but I think the coins with the gold B are much more attractive and desirable. I feel the majority would agree.
legendary
Activity: 2128
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March 20, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
#60
Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?

Yes that are all Silver + Golds.  I wish I also had an all silver MS68 too.
legendary
Activity: 1960
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One coin to rule them all
March 20, 2015, 07:33:27 PM
#59
Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
March 20, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
#58
Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?

Yes, there was a 0.1 MS68 not too long ago, looks like you even you made a comment on it  Cheesy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-the-first-ms-68-casascius-coin-sold-911883

I should have sent that coin instead of the one I kept. Please stop rubbing salt on my wounds  Cry

Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver
legendary
Activity: 1162
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March 20, 2015, 06:58:12 PM
#57
Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?

Yes, there was a 0.1 MS68 not too long ago, looks like you even you made a comment on it  Cheesy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-the-first-ms-68-casascius-coin-sold-911883

I should have sent that coin instead of the one I kept. Please stop rubbing salt on my wounds  Cry
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
#56
The coin listed SOLD.

That doesn't mean I'm out of the 10BTC silver /w gold B coins. Just the one in the photo sold with the prefix pictured. I will update the OP with another coin and continue this listing.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
March 20, 2015, 06:39:39 PM
#55
Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?

Yes, there was a 0.1 MS68 not too long ago, looks like you even you made a comment on it  Cheesy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-the-first-ms-68-casascius-coin-sold-911883

I asked if he had any...he sent a bunch in for grading.
legendary
Activity: 1960
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One coin to rule them all
March 20, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
#54
Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?

Yes, there was a 0.1 MS68 not too long ago, looks like you even you made a comment on it  Cheesy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-the-first-ms-68-casascius-coin-sold-911883
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
#53
The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  Huh

yup. that's why i bought coins i know would be highly desired and are practical. Cheesy

So is it sold or what?
not yet. i have more than one though. Smiley

Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?
legendary
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Merit: 1001
March 20, 2015, 03:47:19 PM
#52
The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  Huh

yup. that's why i bought coins i know would be highly desired and are practical. Cheesy

So is it sold or what?
not yet. i have more than one though. Smiley
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
#51
The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  Huh

yup. that's why i bought coins i know would be highly desired and are practical. Cheesy

So is it sold or what?
legendary
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March 20, 2015, 02:53:50 PM
#50
The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  Huh

yup. that's why i bought coins i know would be highly desired and are practical. Cheesy
legendary
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March 19, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
#49
The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  Huh
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
March 19, 2015, 11:16:28 AM
#48
The only way this will be worth a fortune is if Bitcoin is worth a fortune and therein lies the paradox!  Smiley

The paradox being that nobody will pay $200,000 for a privately-minted silver round with $100,000 of BTC on it?

Anyone holding 10s or 25s long-term in the hopes of making a fatter profit years down the road is either insane or has poor extrapolation skills.

If I were to go for a large denomination coin, I think I'd have to be thinking in fiat terms and put the BTC premium out of my mind. They're beautiful things to own but I can't see premiums holding, let alone increasing, if the value did rise significantly.

Anything 25 BTC or above already has a pretty small premium. I guess we'll see whether the desirability and rarity kicks in in a larger way or remains static or withers.
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