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Topic: Casascius hologram issue - page 4. (Read 2669 times)

legendary
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MONKEYNUTS
July 11, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
#24
How did u crack it? With pliers?

I wouldn't mind seeing a cracking video.

monkeynuts actually cracked my Gold Titan for me to go back for a second round of grading at ANACS. He used some grips, with the slab inside a plastic bag to prevent shattered plastic getting everywhere. Crack each corner bit by bit, and slowly prised the slab apart.


As Z says, I used locking grips set at just less than the slab. Emphasis on crack rather than destroy. Less is more. Many small steps rather than one giant leap. Corners, then middles.

https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/hand-tools/locking-clamps-and-wrenches/255mm-10%22-sheet-plier-grip-wrench/p/SEN5587300K?utm_campaign=pla+-+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping-pla&utm_keyword=SEN5587300K&istCompanyId=6aa6787b-063e-4414-802d-129f235df603&istItemId=aqrxlmpxl&istBid=tztx


Other options I have read about are in a bench vice and then use a hacksaw (take the edges off, you can get away with 3). One of those small electric 'rotary tools' would also do the trick.
Its only the very edges that get bound by the resin

If your gonna do it, always practice with a low value slabbed coin first !! There is always risk associated. Reward has to be clear before doing it, generally an older graded coin.

CGS slabs are far more stubborn than ANACS (far more brittle, so more unpredictable).
hero member
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In Memory of Zepher
July 11, 2016, 05:57:16 PM
#23
Just checked mine as it is the same coin and also slabbed by ANACS.  No spots.  I live in a very humid area, so hopefully that's not a factor. 
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
#22
Someone posted this on the IRC chat

How To Break a Coin Out of a Slab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49WSTeQt60c

Doesn't look too hard.
copper member
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Electricity is really just organized lightning
July 11, 2016, 05:43:13 PM
#21
How did u crack it? With pliers?

I wouldn't mind seeing a cracking video.

monkeynuts actually cracked my Gold Titan for me to go back for a second round of grading at ANACS. He used some grips, with the slab inside a plastic bag to prevent shattered plastic getting everywhere. Crack each corner bit by bit, and slowly prised the slab apart.
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 05:41:56 PM
#20
How did u crack it? With pliers?

I wouldn't mind seeing a cracking video.

Blazed posted this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13663930 .. Not sure if he ever posted the video though.

donator
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July 11, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
#19
How did u crack it? With pliers?

I wouldn't mind seeing a cracking video.
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
#18
I have also seen this on a few

I have only seen on a slabbed coin. And only with a series 3 holo silver coin. I would love to hear from anyone seeing this on none slabbed coins, or none silver coins

I cracked one of those slabs for inspection. It would appear that once present, that it's permanent, ie it wouldn't wipe off.

Would love to hear an explaination

How did u crack it? With pliers?

Also is it ANACS slabbed coins only?

Maybe ANACS adds something to the slab before putting it together?
legendary
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MONKEYNUTS
July 11, 2016, 03:53:27 PM
#17
I have also seen this on a few

I have only seen on a slabbed coin. And only with a series 3 holo silver coin. I would love to hear from anyone seeing this on none slabbed coins, or none silver coins

I cracked one of those slabs for inspection. It would appear that once present, that it's permanent, ie it wouldn't wipe off.

Would love to hear an explaination
donator
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July 11, 2016, 02:09:03 PM
#16
If you look at the pics, you can see a similar dot pattern on the actual slab in the clear spots...  I'm wondering if this is some sort of reaction, or possibly residue from the slab getting on the coin hologram over time.  Maybe another downside to having coins graded?
donator
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between a rock and a block!
July 11, 2016, 02:04:43 PM
#15
Are you sure it's the hologram and not the capsule or the plastic around (which seems to have some dots too ) ? Never seen that before  Huh

It is the coin for sure. I have several that also have those dots all over them.
If you ever peel it, I'd love to analyze the residue that caused it..
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
#14
Are you sure it's the hologram and not the capsule or the plastic around (which seems to have some dots too ) ? Never seen that before  Huh

It is the coin for sure. I have several that also have those dots all over them.
Ok, I didn't know this was possible  Sad
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
#13
Are you sure it's the hologram and not the capsule or the plastic around (which seems to have some dots too ) ? Never seen that before  Huh

It is the coin for sure. I have several that also have those dots all over them.
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July 11, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
#12
Are you sure it's the hologram and not the capsule or the plastic around (which seems to have some dots too ) ? Never seen that before  Huh

Definitely seems to be the hologram. Here's a pic I've just taken of the exact same coin that I have, same year, same grade.
Not the best camera, but you can see the difference.

legendary
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July 11, 2016, 01:07:24 PM
#11
Are you sure it's the hologram and not the capsule or the plastic around (which seems to have some dots too ) ? Never seen that before  Huh
donator
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between a rock and a block!
July 11, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
#10
Some oxidation or a reaction over time perhaps?
I'd want to examine it under high magnification
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 12:47:06 PM
#9
Oh yeah I see them now.  Sad
sr. member
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In memory of Zepher
July 11, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
#8
Could you actually circle the area where you noticed the dots @dumbchump?

It's actually quite obvious on the first and second picture if you zoom in.
Wonder what causes that? Huh humidity?
Location OP? US?

US - midwest, in a safe most of the time....humidity controlled a/c the rest...it's odd and disappointing to say the least.
copper member
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July 11, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
#7
Could you actually circle the area where you noticed the dots @dumbchump?

It's actually quite obvious on the first and second picture if you zoom in.
Wonder what causes that? Huh humidity?
Location OP? US?
sr. member
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In memory of Zepher
July 11, 2016, 12:23:19 PM
#6
Could you actually circle the area where you noticed the dots @dumbchump?

Added another pic.  The circled area is just what comes up the best in the pic....but the back of the hologram has an even distribution of those dots.
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 12:14:32 PM
#5
Could you actually circle the area where you noticed the dots @dumbchump?
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