well my only option it seems is to try and find some goodwill of this real owner of ps account i have his email at least
but who says he will answer me (he did send back hello who is this) so it's not very promosing is it
thanks for your help i appreciate it i know what to do now
as i have email and name of this owner i will try to contact him one more time
Topic: cashout money (Read 568 times)
if i understand this issue it looks like the OP bought the account from one of the people he mentioned in this thread, so this issue will be resolved if the OP maybe ask the account seller for help to send KYC documents. but I think the seller will not want to do that.
We shouldn't believe anything the OP says in this thread without valid evidence, as he is a scammer himself and has a history of engaging in shady and immoral dealings, such as trading with other people's personal documents and KYC verified gambling accounts. The mere fact that he admits to buying a PokerStars account is enough to have his account blocked and his funds confiscated, as this is a clear violation of their terms of use.
The casinos put "restrictions" in place to froze accounts for a reason. They will not allow any withdrawals, if they froze the account, but they might consider lifting the restriction, if you can provide enough proof that that account was not guilty of the transgression that triggered the frozen account.
I screened through your posts, but I did not see if you provided a reason for the freezing of the account. Sorry if I missed it... In any way, good luck.. I hope you get your money back, if you owned it legitimately.
I screened through your posts, but I did not see if you provided a reason for the freezing of the account. Sorry if I missed it... In any way, good luck.. I hope you get your money back, if you owned it legitimately.
hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?
Why the account is frozen? There's a reason for it and usually they detected something unusual in your activity. So the solution for this is to send documents if they ask KYC. Since you're not the real owner of the account I don't think there's a chance for you to withdraw your money.This is the risk of using other's account when something went wrong with the account and there's a money involved. In this situation, you made a mistake.
Coordinating the problem with the owner and help them to try to negotiate with the casino rep for you to settle the problem and
for you to withdraw the remaining balance.
if i understand this issue it looks like the OP bought the account from one of the people he mentioned in this thread, so this issue will be resolved if the OP maybe ask the account seller for help to send KYC documents. but I think the seller will not want to do that.
We shouldn't believe anything the OP says in this thread without valid evidence, as he is a scammer himself and has a history of engaging in shady and immoral dealings, such as trading with other people's personal documents and KYC verified gambling accounts. The mere fact that he admits to buying a PokerStars account is enough to have his account blocked and his funds confiscated, as this is a clear violation of their terms of use.
Why the account is frozen? There's a reason for it and usually they detected something unusual in your activity. So the solution for this is to send documents if they ask KYC. Since you're not the real owner of the account I don't think there's a chance for you to withdraw your money.
Actually it's not that easy, friend.If an account is frozen due to an act that violates the rules fatally, the casino will not easily allow the account to be able to make withdrawals. Moreover, if what is being done is fraudulent, the casino will never open an account that has been frozen.
Maybe he should sort out what happened first before the casino can approve his withdrawal transaction.
so here it's not a problem that the OP broke the rules by fraud but the OP doesn't have the original account documents.
if i understand this issue it looks like the OP bought the account from one of the people he mentioned in this thread, so this issue will be resolved if the OP maybe ask the account seller for help to send KYC documents. but I think the seller will not want to do that.
one last question i want to ask  what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it  what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
It will become the money of the casino, but if the account was only frozen, then it is still in your balance, but still your money is in their hands, so it is still theirs, and I think this is already stated in terms if you broke their regulations. It accumulated over time for sure in those frozen accounts, as others don't have plans to recover it. Even with just a single cent in their account, if it will be added up for sure, it is still a lot.
Why the account is frozen? There's a reason for it and usually they detected something unusual in your activity. So the solution for this is to send documents if they ask KYC. Since you're not the real owner of the account I don't think there's a chance for you to withdraw your money.
Actually it's not that easy, friend.If an account is frozen due to an act that violates the rules fatally, the casino will not easily allow the account to be able to make withdrawals. Moreover, if what is being done is fraudulent, the casino will never open an account that has been frozen.
Maybe he should sort out what happened first before the casino can approve his withdrawal transaction.
one last question i want to ask what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
I guess the money stays with pokerstars unless until it is requested for withdrawal ?
I don't think that there is any rule where the platform return the money to the gamblers if it stays ideal in anyone's account.
Yes, obviously if no one is going to claim the money then it will be keep by the platform itself. The thing with the OP is that he is not the original owner so it's going to be very or he has a slim chance to prove ownership.
And perhaps that's why KYC is being enforced now, because in this case, you have access but can't withdraw it because you are not the original owner.
OP knows what up, and as he said, he is pretty much f**k up.
hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?
Why the account is frozen? There's a reason for it and usually they detected something unusual in your activity. So the solution for this is to send documents if they ask KYC. Since you're not the real owner of the account I don't think there's a chance for you to withdraw your money.This is the risk of using other's account when something went wrong with the account and there's a money involved. In this situation, you made a mistake.
one last question i want to ask what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
I guess the money stays with pokerstars unless until it is requested for withdrawal ?
I don't think that there is any rule where the platform return the money to the gamblers if it stays ideal in anyone's account.
The gambling sites are not so generous that they give the ideal money lying in the account to the depositors. Especially when the account is frozen, it means that the site has got hold of the funds and will never return.
one last question i want to ask what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
It will stay on the account most probably and the action of the platform will more likely depend on their ToS, if there is a certain clause on their ToS that accounts that are inactive for a certain period of time will be closed and funds will be confiscated by the platform then the fund of the account will be likely confiscated by the platform, especially the account has a cased and in need for KYC to be unfrozen.
It is also possible that the original owner of the account may come forward try to unfrozen the account to claim the fund in it.
Is that it? They blocked you for no reason? And why would you use someone's account in the first place? That was a waste if you won't be able to get that winning. Perhaps, we should want to know what really happened there why they have to block that account. Even if the owner take that account the casino might still not gonna give it to the real owner. Perhaps, waiting is your only choice or go continue to contact the real owner but I don't know if both of you will be working together if someone saw that amount of winning.
okay guys i think we can conclude that i have learned a valuable lesson indeed last post i will make here
if there would be anyone that could help get me in contact with the real owner of this ps account i have his name/email address you can always pm me here
i also contacted him through his email address and he answered with hello who is this ? and then nothing after i explained everything few days passed
so dunno what i need to think about that
one last question i want to ask what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
if there would be anyone that could help get me in contact with the real owner of this ps account i have his name/email address you can always pm me here
i also contacted him through his email address and he answered with hello who is this ? and then nothing after i explained everything few days passed
so dunno what i need to think about that
one last question i want to ask what happens if this money would be still on account and nobody can claim it what happens then with this money? does pokerstars keep it for themself ? i guess there is alot of unclaimed money still on player accounts this way
hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?
only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account
If you have full control over the account then yes but if the account is frozen then that is totally impossible feat. Even if the payment method was yours that wouldn't mean much to consider a cash out since you state that the account is frozen.only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account
This is a good example: do not use other people's accounts! Everything that concerns money and bets with high risks should be accessible only to one person, there can be no other options. It would never have crossed my mind to make a deposit on someone else's account and play it is almost 100% future blocking. There is a security system on every site and it notices suspicious transactions and blocks the account accordingly.
Exactly, don’t try to cheat the system by using others account because you might experience the same faith with this one. If OP don’t have any contact with the real owner then there’s no way to get that money back since the site is asking for a supporting details and documents, better for OP to move on. The site are very strict with this one, if your account being tagged as suspicious you can’t do anything but to comply with them. hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?
In case of frozen account and needs KYC, the document should match the name input of the account. If the name is not yours then there is no way you can access the fund. You can be suspected as other person claiming or trying to steal another person's fund. Worst case scenario, the account will be totally locked and fund confiscated. So it is not possible to claim any funds form an account that is not under your name.
only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account
This can't be use to prove you as the owner of the account.
i appreciate all the help but in my books pokerstars is a poker site/account so calling it a casino account is a bit strange
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame
and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account
so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame
and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
I think only nemlig know, you can try to approach nemlig and inquire about that but he was inactive for almost a month now. It is a sad thing that you lost some amount there but, I bet you learn some lesson on that transaction and hopefully, you won't commit another mistake like that.
i appreciate all the help but in my books pokerstars is a poker site/account so calling it a casino account is a bit strange
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account
so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame
and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
There is very little or almost no chance that you may get your money back. It's better you may forget about it and move on. You got the lesson learned but at the expense of your money. You and me can't change what is being written for us by the nature and these losses are part of life. The only thing we can do is not t repeat the same mistakes again and learn from these experiences.
As far as the scammer Nemlig is concerned, he isn't much active on this forum now a days especially after his account is tagged. He was last active on 25 March and its also not easy to find him on social media as you never know if the bitcointalk name Nemlig is his real name and there is not much information available to search for him on social networks.
Just take this as an expensive lesson, not to trust a stranger over the net.
For all we know, he's been reading your case anonymously.
So yes, accept the fact that you can't get your money back. At least, you can still earn that money and he did not screw you using your personal docs.
Tracking that person may incur some funds again from your end. So better accept this lesson and move on.
i appreciate all the help but in my books pokerstars is a poker site/account so calling it a casino account is a bit strange
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
You're right that poker isn't traditionally considered a casino game, since it is a game of skill (with an element of luck involved). But some websites like PokerStars have both poker and casino games available to play. So while it might not be totally accurate to call a PokerStars website an "online casino," some people might use that term to mean a website that lets you play both poker and casino games. Basically, it just depends on the person and the context of the conversation.
Besides, here's an excerpt from the wikipedia article:
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_casino
A typical selection of gambling games offered at an online casino might include:
Baccarat
Blackjack
Craps
Roulette
Sic bo
Slot machines
Poker
Keno
Bingo
Baccarat
Blackjack
Craps
Roulette
Sic bo
Slot machines
Poker
Keno
Bingo
But does that really matter here? What is important, in my opinion, is that you have fun while playing.
i appreciate all the help but in my books pokerstars is a poker site/account so calling it a casino account is a bit strange
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account
so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
you can indeed play casino on it but poker is not casino right ? or am i mistaken?
nonetheless i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame
and also to make things clear i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else account so the money that was cashed out was my money but okay i made mistake to play on someone else ps account i get that
what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner of ps account are the same person or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner if maybe can track a person you can contact me (can't find him on social networks though )
There is very little or almost no chance that you may get your money back. It's better you may forget about it and move on. You got the lesson learned but at the expense of your money. You and me can't change what is being written for us by the nature and these losses are part of life. The only thing we can do is not t repeat the same mistakes again and learn from these experiences.
As far as the scammer Nemlig is concerned, he isn't much active on this forum now a days especially after his account is tagged. He was last active on 25 March and its also not easy to find him on social media as you never know if the bitcointalk name Nemlig is his real name and there is not much information available to search for him on social networks.
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