Topic: cashout money - page 2. (Read 549 times)

i appreciate all the help but in my books pokerstars is a poker site/account  so calling it a casino account is a bit strange

you can indeed play casino on it  but poker is not casino  right ?  or am i mistaken?

nonetheless  i think i have slim chance in getting my money back wich is a shame     and also to make things clear  i made the deposit myself with my own personal skrill account on someone else  account
so the money   that was cashed out  was my money  but okay  i made mistake to play on someone else  ps account i get that

what i don't know is if nemlig and this real owner  of ps account are the same person  or if this real owner has nothing to do with it and maybe  didn't log on anymore on his account and so doesn't know his account is being used for other activitivies
i have name of this real owner  if maybe can track a person   you can contact me  (can't find him on social networks though )

you got involved in a big problem that has no solution, you bought a PokerStars casino account even though it was against the TOS of the casino, you could have created your own account in which you would have put all your data and with that today you would not be facing this problem because you would easily pass their KYC, now there is no way for them to solve your problem, I think that the most productive solution is that you tell the truth in the casino although this will not help you in any way because casinos hate that customers profit and when they realize that the customer who profited cheated or broke their TOS so the casino won't pay you no matter how much you beg the casino won't pay you

you have to forget about this casino and move on, create an account in other casinos but this time do not buy accounts in casinos, you have already seen the great disadvantage of buying a casino account, in this time when all casinos ask for KYC to buy an account in a casino is a big stupidity . see that the person who sold you the account had not even gone through KYC and the bigger an account in which a lot of money and bonuses have been moving, the greater the chance of the casino asking for KYC, that's why it's a big stupidity to buy high-level vip accounts and worse without KYC.

about this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nemlig-2845813

Name: Nemlig
Posts: 110
Activity: 110
Merit: 0
Position: Copper Member
Date Registered: August 25, 2020, 11:31:46 AM
Last Active: March 25, 2023, 11:12:03 AM

this guy hasn't been active for many days and it doesn't seem to me that he values his account very much so I doubt he would do KYC for you, assuming that he sold you his account even if the data in the account registration is his real data, but even that would be a big risk because he would have to have access to the account to do KYC or maybe he would send an email to the casino support with his documents and with that the account would be verified. anyway the TOS of the casino were violated in my opinion because casinos forbid the sale of accounts, I don't know if this casino is allowed, I could be wrong

I've also experienced the same thing with a casino before. I was confident that they will not ask for KYC because I already had good withdrawals but it seems like they are asking their users to comply with the KYC randomly. They ask me for KYC during my withdrawal despite stating on their TOS that they will only ask for KYC on big transactions. The sad thing is it took a long time for them to finish the KYC approval which is really a hassle. I think it's already time for us to accept the fact that casinos will ask for KYC anytime so we must always be prepared.

Well if the account doesn't have your name and documents on it , it might at some point be difficult to have access to the money and before I go ahead, I reay would want to know why you are trying to have access to someone else's money because he or she used your payment address for payments?
With no affiliations to the above topic, and I'm not writing this to make any suggestions to how you can steal or take away someone's money without their consent and you're ready having negative trust on your profile.
But if you have full access to the account including the emails and maybe phone number then there are possibilities that you might have access to the money since payment will be made through your address.

Right from reading your question, one would know that you're already a newbie, ones a transaction had been made, it is irreversible, know this first, also if you gamble and make payment on yiur bet made as stake, you're free to use any account to make deposit to your casino crypto wallet, but still irreversible, you can only cash out if you have the bet slip or access to the site on the same account used to gamble that particular game.

I am sorry, but I just wanted to point out that I had a recent issue with one of the crypto gambling sites. I had won about $60 and KYC was required. It was the first time for me and I was totally shocked because it was my first time experiencing such requirement on the site. I have won and easily withdrawn my cash on the site in the past. When I read their Terms. They said although they require KYC on big withdrawals of $100 plus they reserve the right to request for KYC at any time. So, it doesn't really matter. KYC can be requested at anytime.

This is a good example: do not use other people's accounts! Everything that concerns money and bets with high risks should be accessible only to one person, there can be no other options. It would never have crossed my mind to make a deposit on someone else's account and play it is almost 100% future blocking. There is a security system on every site and it notices suspicious transactions and blocks the account accordingly.

It's pretty clear that you guys are both scammers, and you might even be alts of each other. But just for kicks, do you have any proof to back that up? Can you show evidence that it was he who sold you the account and that you paid for it?

You've been doing a lot of stupid things based on the feedback on your account,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2751022

you should change your way and stop circumventing things and trying to avoid following the rules, you will end people not only disliking you but distrusting you.
and losing money like in the case of the casino you're playing.

I doubt it, if the account is frozen this means the casino in which you want to make the withdrawal found something fishy going on and they are going to need that you pass whatever procedures they have in place to deal with this situation, which in most cases will require that you identify yourself, and since according to your own admission you are not the owner of the account then you will never get any of your withdrawal attempts approved, so forget about it.

nemlig sold me this ps account https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nemlig-2845813 

How can you cash out from an account which is frozen ? This means that you cannot login into the account and initiate a withdrawal request.


Things seems to be more complicated here and i can sense that there is a KYC problem too with your account.
Since you are not the owner, why would the site allow you have the withdrawal ?


Can you tell which user on this forum sold you that account ? Although it may not help you recover your account but at least that person may be exposed and other forum users may be saved if he tries to scam again to other people too.

buying another account is not really a very smart thing to do. because when it comes to kyc, you will more then likely be banned or funds frozen by the site. that will be your expensive lesson if you have big money on them.
just look for other poker sites that you think you can play anonymously. but buying an account is not your future options anymore. you will likely end up losing your resources.

well you can't claim a pokerstars account as a casino account/site    it is mostly poker   

but i concur that buying an account is not smart move/stupid   i should have known better     
but i just wanted to play anonymous and so means playing under another name then my own   but it has indeed risks

Buying an account is a mistake because its a violation of the terms of the casino you will be caught along the way because the casino is good at tracing changes of account, they may even ask you to login into one of the devices you've used in this specific time, changing the password and an email address is one sign that there is a change of ownership and the system will mark it for future reference.
This is a bad idea that is why I always recommend ignoring those casino account sellers because there are risk attach to it, anyway, this is a reference on why you should not buy a casino account, however good it may seem.

thanks this is an answer i can do something with !    

i think also that this is a very wrong account i have bought access to  shame that i have trusted nemlig  and offcourse myself for doing such a thing

i thought i was safe depositing my own money in this  and play  because it was a verified account so nothing could go wrong i was mistaken    
also didn't know that if you change emailaddress from  owner  wich i did   and change password that he could recover this account by changing email and password again   that seems easy  (or he has a telephone linked to it )  dunno how he recovered the account  
only reason  i want to still get my cashout is because for me this is no small change so that's why i want to try everything to maybe hopefully get my money back even though i know this chance is small at best

If the account isnt yours the for sure it is most likely you do buy that certain account or you have stolen and hacked it out for yourself or we dont know on whats actually behind those reasons because once you do

make an account then it cant be simply be passed up on anyone considering that you had passed out some documents which means that the account would be tagged up into yourself.If you do win big
and its not your account and if the company or platform do asked out for some verification or documentation then youre fucked up.

This is the cons on owning an account which isnt yours in the first place considering that creating one is really just that too easy.

^That is a lesson to learn? yes of course.
Well, I hope that the OP will get his fund even though knowing him that it was a mistake.
It does seem suspicious that there were multiple Skrill accounts linked to it, including yours. It is possible that the account was being used for fraudulent activities by someone other than the original owner. In a case like this, buying an account with someone may face a problem like this in the future and OP did not think that possible outcome.

You figure this out, your funds will still with them so you can have time to work with the documents needed. You can ask the site for more time to provide what is needed, wondering why you use an account that is not yours. KYC are more strict to those suspicious account and for sure your account tagged as suspicious.

You seem to live in an alternative reality but back in the real world that money is effectively seized. You need to explain more background around why it has been restricted by a gambling site, because they can do this for a multitude of reasons, like if they think it is stolen, related to some previous illicit transaction, is such a large sum that they have to give a good explanation to their regulatory body, etc. It sounds like they just expect you to go through a Know Your Customer type transaction, which is becoming the standard these days and will soon be found at the vast majority of major cryptocurrency casinos and sportbooks. Why can you not provide such documentation, or you simply don't want to?