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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 06:08:43 PM

i did give them my documents but they saw a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad

i'm not the owner of this account

I'm not totally clear on what you're saying, but if you're trying to withdraw money from someone else's account and the casino requires KYC verification, you're pretty much out of luck. You need to use the actual account owner's information to comply with the KYC process. I don't know why you'd even consider using someone else's account - that's just asking for trouble. It's important to be cautious with financial transactions and follow the platform's rules and regulations.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

If you play at an official casino that may have a license or a centralized license, you will usually be asked to complete your KYC let alone withdraw big money, but if your account is frozen for other reasons, for example cheating on promotional bonuses and so on, of course it will be difficult to restore your account without KYC, I I think you need to follow the existing casino rules as long as it doesn't make it difficult for you, if you think it can be recovered without documents I think it's impossible.

Your documents may be to convince the casino that there is no money laundering that you are doing there or cheating so they ask for your documents for that, so there is no problem giving them instead of your account being frozen, my advice if you want to play gambling anonymously without having to provide documents or KYC you should play in a non-centralized or fully decentralized casino. hope that answers your question.

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The answer in all of your question is no. The reason? of course suspicious behavior, on of the gambling site responsibility is not only to eliminate users that would take advantage on their gambling site but also to make sure that the account of their players are safe and if they see that you are suspicious and clearly you don't own the account of course there is no way that they will grant your request to withdraw.

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This is where KYC becomes important. Blocked accounts, hacked, and other means that you will not have total access to it.
Sorry for your loss OP, but you might want to just get over it or else you will just be stressed out and hospital bills will be more expensive than how much you lost on that gambling site.

Learn the lesson from here on. If one gambling site has a reputation to keep then do their KYC if needed especially if you are depositing large amounts.
But if you are playing for dimes and nickels, then yes, no KYC is needed at all.
It's not just to keep the business safe from money laundering but also their customers when this kind of situation happens.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

If you are using a non KYC casino then withdrawals can be made but if the casino has KYC requirements and your account is frozen then don't expect to have full rights over the money and be able to withdraw it because usually accounts are frozen due to problems that occur and the casino doesn't tolerate the account.
If you have a large amount of money stored in your account, maybe you can still solve it with casino support, but if it's only a small amount, it's better to leave and don't need to hope that your money can come back because it's just a waste of time.
After all, a frozen account will usually be difficult to open and retrieve the money stored in it.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

Even if you honestly admitted to the casino that you do not have the documents that they need and the cash-out money is not yours they will still ban your account, I don't know how did you arrive at that situation is it intentional or is it because of your being a newbie and ignorant, but this is not good if you based it in the casino's TOS.
No one will help you or even be willing to help because this is something that a player should not be doing in the first place.
You should gamble with your own money and money that you can't afford to lose and you should be able to provide your own documents when casinos ask for them.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 06:08:43 PM

i did give them my documents but they saw a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad

i'm not the owner of this account

Did you get the account by buying it? because we know that there are many who buy casino accounts because the level is high enough so that it will provide several advantages. Because honestly I'm quite confused about your case, how can the account name be different from the document you provided, then you also say this is not your account, so who exactly are you? Are you a hacker who finds a casino account with a balance in it but when you want to take it you are asked for KYC but it fails because of a different name. You are quite suspicious.

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- Honestly, I don't quite understand what you're saying here, you want to cashout even without documents or kyc, right? Then what I don't understand is that your account was frozen?

What do you mean? are you asking if it is still possible to cashout without kyc or even if the account is frozen? Because if your account is frozen, it is unlikely that you can cashout, because it is locked on the gambling platform, this is if you are referring to the casino platform..

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 06:08:43 PM

i did give them my documents but they saw a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad

i'm not the owner of this account

I'm not sure if I understand your words correctly,
if the account is not yours and when you want to withdraw funds to your personal wallet it seems difficult to do so while the casino asks you to KYC the real data of the real owner.
there is no other way to comply with casino rules in doing KYC by using the account owner's original documents.
and the casino froze the funds in that account for one reason that the data does not match.

there is no other way to withdraw funds from an account that is not yours. good luck.

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As long as the casino allows you to withdraw your money, you can do it seamlessly without worrying about having your account frozen.
But every casino has its rules and nowadays, if you want to withdraw big winnings, you must identify your account by submitting your documents to verify it.
And based on your story about the name discrepancies in your documents, you may have to convince the casino by sending other documents to the casino.
But after seeing that the payment method is not crypto, I think there might be regulatory differences between crypto casinos and fiat casinos. It sounds like you should contact customer support to help you sort out the problem.

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The casino would have to verify that account is yours so if they have frozen your account there is no way you can get back the access of your account and withdraw funds.You are not owner and don't have any documents which you need to submit as KYC so I don't think there's any way you can get funds if the casino has denied it.But still try to contact the support team and tell the matter if they come up with alternative but that's rare chance.

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Commonly account frozen due any rule break out or have possibility require for KYC if want withdrawing your money, need specific question about which one side your money frozen or holding. If on gambling platform with account have been frozen require KYC and you need own document for getting back your money, if don't have real document I don't sure have any way for withdrawing your money because all gambling platform have policy created one account based on your real name. Please give us detail later which one side do you mean about account frozen and you can't withdrawing your money.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

If the account is frozen, then tough luck mate. It is probably frozen for either for KYC or due to fraudulent activities. In both cases, you need to be the owner of the account to explain your situation or provide necessary proof to the sportsbook/casino.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 06:08:43 PM

i did give them my documents but they saw a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad

i'm not the owner of this account

I think that answers the question itself? I mean no proper/legal business would ever accept only proof of payment as the proof for identity, both needs to match. People can borrow from other people to pay stuff, but you can't exactly go about borrowing other people's identity now.

In the first place though shouldn't you be able to contact the og user of the account? Seeing as you funded his account through your own methods after all. That is unless you're using a different identity then well, all the blame is on you.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

I guess you're referring to online casino, if I'm correct then you can make withdrawal if the casino explicitly states that they won't be bedding any form of document during withdrawal but if they do I'm afraid you'll have to complete your KYC before you can cash out your money.
Although, the fact that the casino states that they won't be needing kyc for withdrawal does not mean that they can't request it, like for a recent thread where a user was asked for KYC completion after the casino wrote on their website that KYC is not required.

And since yours has been frozen they are likely going to ask you to submit your documents depending on what made them freeze the account in the first place. If it's about identity issues then it's certain.

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Even if you have full control over the account, if it is frozen, you can't do anything with it because the support staff or that casino will surely ask for ID of the owner, and even if you provide the ID, the possibility of recovering your money is low because you broke their terms, which is why the account was frozen. The only solution to this is to ask the owner of the account to submit their ID and try to unfreeze it so you can withdraw it using whatever method you want.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

It depends...
If the site is charging KYC and you had already given false information in a previous step, it is very likely that they will not release the payment.
This requirement and accuracy of information varies greatly from one site to another, and usually involves sending basic identity documents and a proof of address.
I suggest that you never send false information and whenever possible prefer casinos where it is possible to withdraw cryptocurrencies, as withdrawals to banking institutions are usually much more rigorous.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 06:08:43 PM

i did give them my documents but they saw a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work Sad

i'm not the owner of this account

Unfortunately, it is unlikely that you will be able to withdraw funds without being able to prove that you are the account owner. In most cases, casino sites have strict policies in place to prevent fraudulent activity, and they require proper identification documents to verify your identity.

I know this will be of little help to you right now, but you should have known better than to deposit your funds into someone else's casino account. This is probably also against the terms of use of the platform.

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I'm not certain about fiat casinos bit if it's a crypto gambling casinos then, it is possible to make withdrawals without KYC but I think it might be triggered at some points if you a certain amount is been placed for withdrawals.

I really don't see anything wrong with people doing KYC and I personally wouldn't want to get involved with nom KYC casinos because at some point, they might not be trusted and just incase things get soured, they wouldn't be much people you can make complains to legally and that's one of the major reasons I always have to avoid online casinos that doesn't require KYC.

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Quote from: ps34 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:58 PM

hello is it possible to cashout money without being the owner without having documents to proof you are the owner and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

No there is none it's on the TOS of the casino that you should own the money and the documents that you are going to deposit or submit, if this is your issue in the casino you're playing you risk losing your money and getting your account banned.

Again another case of not reading and understanding the TOS of the casino, when you sign up deposit, and play on the casino always be aware of the possibility that the casino will ask you to undergo KYC or investigate your account.

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