Casimero vs Rigondeaux this August 14, 2021 - page 10.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 06, 2021, 05:09:19 PM

Only 1 week now before the date of the fight, as of today, there's still not sportsbook that offers the betting odds of the fight.

I think our patience will be tested here as I'm sure just like me, you are also eager to put your bet, but we can't do anything since we don't control the bookies and it seems this fight is not so popular resulting in a lack of bettors interest.

I'm waiting for the odds as well, and I want to see the odds that were shared days before to be displayed in the bookies. That odds were good, Casimero was the underdog with +200 and I think anyone who supports the Filipino fighter will be happy to bet in this fight.

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Only 1 week now before the date of the fight, as of today, there's still not sportsbook that offers the betting odds of the fight.

I think our patience will be tested here as I'm sure just like me, you are also eager to put your bet, but we can't do anything since we don't control the bookies and it seems this fight is not so popular resulting in a lack of bettors interest.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 03, 2021, 08:47:49 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 02, 2021, 08:59:01 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 07:59:20 PM

Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

In this weight division there is Inoue and then there's everyone else. He is the cash cow, that's why they all want to fight him. Casimero and Rigondeaux are not very popular or well known in the United States. This might be a very good fight but the end goal for each fighter is to put themselves in a position to be Inoue's next opponent and get a big payday.

Inoue gained the interest of most fans from US while Casimero and Rigondeaux may have local fans,

which far from gaining decent amount of money using PPV, this two fighters wanted to win to have that chance to fight against Inoue
and have a huge amount of money from sponsors and advertisers. Whoever take this will move up and have that chance and prove
something to increase the value of his name.

Before Inoue, Rigondeaux was already popular, so an Inoue vs Rigondeaux fight would also be a good fight to generate a good income. Casimero is just chasing good fights as he has not fought a big revenue fight yet, but since he is now under the MP promotion, his future is safe as long as he keeps winning.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 02, 2021, 08:59:01 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 07:59:20 PM

Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

In this weight division there is Inoue and then there's everyone else. He is the cash cow, that's why they all want to fight him. Casimero and Rigondeaux are not very popular or well known in the United States. This might be a very good fight but the end goal for each fighter is to put themselves in a position to be Inoue's next opponent and get a big payday.

Inoue gained the interest of most fans from US while Casimero and Rigondeaux may have local fans,

which far from gaining decent amount of money using PPV, this two fighters wanted to win to have that chance to fight against Inoue
and have a huge amount of money from sponsors and advertisers. Whoever take this will move up and have that chance and prove
something to increase the value of his name.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 07:59:20 PM

Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

It's because they are two non-American boxers.

Quote from: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 07:59:20 PM

I tried to check some fiat bookies but I also can't find a market for it. Almost just less than 2 weeks before the fight. Let's see if there will be changes, maybe 2-3 days prior to the fight.

Even we send requests to sports betting sites on their respective ANN threads to list the match, they just won't add or consider it right away without a good reason why should they list it.

Unfortunately, maybe this think that the fight didn't get enough traction for US bettors. Only real fans of both boxers might probably the only bettors here. Specially Filipino fans of Casimero, but in any case the winner will get a big boost facing Inoue next.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 02, 2021, 07:59:20 PM

Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

In this weight division there is Inoue and then there's everyone else. He is the cash cow, that's why they all want to fight him. Casimero and Rigondeaux are not very popular or well known in the United States. This might be a very good fight but the end goal for each fighter is to put themselves in a position to be Inoue's next opponent and get a big payday.

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Unfortunately, looks like ticket or PPV sales aren't showing a good result.

I tried to check some fiat bookies but I also can't find a market for it. Almost just less than 2 weeks before the fight. Let's see if there will be changes, maybe 2-3 days prior to the fight.

Even we send requests to sports betting sites on their respective ANN threads to list the match, they just won't add or consider it right away without a good reason why should they list it.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 01, 2021, 11:45:20 AM

The fight is happening two weeks from now, I'm looking at the betting odds but there seem to be no betting sites that have offered it already.

this is the only website that tells about the betting odds, https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-odds/
However, for me it's not enough to confirm the odds are real.

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Rigondeaux vs Casimero Odds
Boxer   Odds
Guillermo Rigondeaux   +100
John Riel Casimero   +200

Will we see these odds when betting sites start accepting bets?

checking also the crypto bookies here but to no avail. i don't think they will list this match unless it will create noise just before the fight date. but if you really want to bet, either on rigo or casimero, just check your local bookie or other fiat-based bookie. because it seems crypto bookies are not interested to list this match.
casimero is training under pacquiao's camp, so let's see if he can get a thing or two from this camp that will make him a winner inside the ring.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 30, 2021, 07:47:13 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 28, 2021, 09:36:44 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on July 28, 2021, 07:57:39 PM

Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.

But some boxers are no choice sometimes so they will still accept small paychecks just to have a fight and build their names.

Casimero is a champion and I think he's already earning well every fight. He just wants more than his usual which might not easy to be granted since even for a champion, a name must be popular to make a market hype. A good PPV history is also a must so boxers are doing something interesting to sell the fight and that involves trashtalking the opponent.

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

Yeah its business and it turns out that this is already been part of it on where trashtalks and provoking words would really act out as a thing that will hype out the fight which means it could potentially
raise up the interest and curiosity of people towards the fight in regards into its outcome but there would be some bad impressions to this which might affect boxers popularity or views towards him
basing into those words that had been thrown but since its business then those people who are already long into this industry is already aware on what are those kind of gimmicks
just to hype out the fight.

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Quote from: taguig on August 02, 2021, 10:56:34 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on July 30, 2021, 07:47:13 AM

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

But he needs to back up those talks if he cannot back it up and ends up getting knocked out, it will be a big embarrassment for him and we will become featured on many videos who about people bragging that cannot back it up, he will end up another Thurman who just embarrassed himself by too much thrash talks.

Casimero was just doing some trick to market his fight, and that is being arrogant so people will get interested in his fights, if he loses, he will be criticized but he will accept it, besides, his journey is not yet over as he is still young and he can still bounce back, but if Rigondeaux will lose, it could send him to retirement as he is not getting any younger. Rigondeaux is already 40 years old, there's only few gas left in his tank.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 30, 2021, 07:47:13 AM

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

But he needs to back up those talks if he cannot back it up and ends up getting knocked out, it will be a big embarrassment for him and we will become featured on many videos who about people bragging that cannot back it up, he will end up another Thurman who just embarrassed himself by too much thrash talks.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on August 01, 2021, 11:59:09 AM

As for now, I didn't see any platform which is supporting the use of boxing gambling is there any already?.

What kind of platform are you looking for, if sports betting platform, we have a lot of bookies that are offering games, but unfortunately, this event is not listed yet. The fight between Pacquiao vs Spence was already listed a long time ago, but this one although two weeks only before the scheduled fight, it's still not available.

For boxing statistics, I don't have a lot of bases, I just use these.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989

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This fight will become one of the greatest bases on the statistics and my perspective because most of us love to know about boxing too so we have different biases. Of course, we would like to support the boxer we want still enjoying the game with the gambling wage. Base on the performance of Casimero the game becomes harder and still, it's all about the will and the title. As for now, I didn't see any platform which is supporting the use of boxing gambling is there any already?.

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The fight is happening two weeks from now, I'm looking at the betting odds but there seem to be no betting sites that have offered it already.

this is the only website that tells about the betting odds, https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-odds/
However, for me it's not enough to confirm the odds are real.

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Rigondeaux vs Casimero Odds
Boxer   Odds
Guillermo Rigondeaux   +100
John Riel Casimero   +200

Will we see these odds when betting sites start accepting bets?

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 30, 2021, 07:47:13 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 28, 2021, 09:36:44 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on July 28, 2021, 07:57:39 PM

Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.

But some boxers are no choice sometimes so they will still accept small paychecks just to have a fight and build their names.

Casimero is a champion and I think he's already earning well every fight. He just wants more than his usual which might not easy to be granted since even for a champion, a name must be popular to make a market hype. A good PPV history is also a must so boxers are doing something interesting to sell the fight and that involves trashtalking the opponent.

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

That's what Casimero has been doing, but let's see if this time he will get a good paycheck, they have a PPV so we will know if how much they had sold during the fight. Can't wait for this big event, two Filipinos are fighting next month and I really hope for their success. Manny is underdog, and most likely Casimero will be an underdog too, if the odds are available soon for this fight, I'll likely put a parlay on it.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 28, 2021, 09:36:44 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on July 28, 2021, 07:57:39 PM

Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.

But some boxers are no choice sometimes so they will still accept small paychecks just to have a fight and build their names.

Casimero is a champion and I think he's already earning well every fight. He just wants more than his usual which might not easy to be granted since even for a champion, a name must be popular to make a market hype. A good PPV history is also a must so boxers are doing something interesting to sell the fight and that involves trashtalking the opponent.

Agree to that, doing trash talks creates attentions and that's how PPV wanted to cover,

if interest comes up from the viewers it will generate more money for both the providers and the boxers, knowing that they've got decent
shared profits every fight that promoters covered the fight. You need to build your name and create good attentions that not exempt even champions to do that to collect bigger paychecks.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 29, 2021, 10:59:32 AM

Anyone who is interested in watching this fight in the arena, you can buy tickets now.

https://www.axs.com/events/407130/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-tickets

the price range at Price: $50.00 - $200.00 according to the link above.

Also, for live streaming, it's handled by showtime and I think it's not possible to avail a stream if you are in the Philippines.

https://www.showtime.com/#getstarted/live

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SHOWTIME is accessible for viewing solely in the United States and its territories and possessions.

The ticket price is not that expensive, but if you are not from US, you have no chance but just to watch the PPV stream. I'm sure it's not only SHOWTIME who has the PPV, maybe try to subscribe to your local cable, if they can secure a PPV they might broadcast it, but I'm also just not sure of its legality though.

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Anyone who is interested in watching this fight in the arena, you can buy tickets now.

https://www.axs.com/events/407130/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-tickets

the price range at Price: $50.00 - $200.00 according to the link above.

Also, for live streaming, it's handled by showtime and I think it's not possible to avail a stream if you are in the Philippines.

https://www.showtime.com/#getstarted/live

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SHOWTIME is accessible for viewing solely in the United States and its territories and possessions.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 29, 2021, 07:54:27 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 29, 2021, 01:36:20 AM

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Casino followers and bets can get all the gambling websites that provide a feature of betting that bets are easy to use and place. There is such a search option that helps you search by games. If you have a problem, the active bots will ask them and they will respond quickly they will hand over your request to their executives. Casimero will need to analyze the sites to stop the fight making money will be easier and will help you experience the games without any problems.

Can you elaborate on what you meant here? Is it something about the Casimero vs Rigo bout?

I'm confused here especially about that last line of your statement.

If you are giving suggestions about how to find a certain match thru a sports betting site, no need to input on the search bar. Just go to the sports category, simple as that and I think others are more used on that way.

Yeah, same here, I'm a bit confused as well.

If he is talking about the gambling site's connection about this fight, then I think he is wrong because gambling sites just provide the odds and they'll make money regardless of the outcome. The bettors that will bet on the winner will make money, and those who bet on the opposite side will lose money, just that simple.

Exactly, bettors would love a bigger fight so they will generate bigger bets and that will not result in a bigger profit or commission on their end. You can beat the house if you are too lucky, but you can never bet the bookies as they accept bets from both sides.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 29, 2021, 01:36:20 AM

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Casino followers and bets can get all the gambling websites that provide a feature of betting that bets are easy to use and place. There is such a search option that helps you search by games. If you have a problem, the active bots will ask them and they will respond quickly they will hand over your request to their executives. Casimero will need to analyze the sites to stop the fight making money will be easier and will help you experience the games without any problems.

Can you elaborate on what you meant here? Is it something about the Casimero vs Rigo bout?

I'm confused here especially about that last line of your statement.

If you are giving suggestions about how to find a certain match thru a sports betting site, no need to input on the search bar. Just go to the sports category, simple as that and I think others are more used on that way.

Yeah, same here, I'm a bit confused as well.

If he is talking about the gambling site's connection about this fight, then I think he is wrong because gambling sites just provide the odds and they'll make money regardless of the outcome. The bettors that will bet on the winner will make money, and those who bet on the opposite side will lose money, just that simple.

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