Casimero vs Rigondeaux this August 14, 2021 - page 21.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

Rigondeaux only lost is to Lomachenko, but the fight happen when Rigo can't pull the trigger anymore and Loma uses his technical ability to frustrate Rigo in every round.

So I'm also with Casimero here, still in his prime and one of the best in this division together with the Japanese monster. Maybe this will be the first time that we will see Rigo going down in the canvass if Casimero can sneak one straight hard right hand.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on May 04, 2021, 06:35:08 PM

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I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

High likely that sportsbooks will favor Casimero here.
But definitely, Casimero should not take this fight for granted.
Few months of training is still ahead of him, so there's a lot of time to prepare for this match.
Now, we just wait what odds are waiting for them.

I agree, although Rigondeaux is no longer in his prime and probably just want to have a good pay check before he retire, he still pose a threat to Casimero.

And besides, Casimero is expected to blast him so that he can set up a huge fight with Inoue. But still a dangerous fight that Casimero shouldn't take for granted. Just excited to see that Casimero will finally have a fight, I'm sure all of us miss this hard hitting Filipino boxer.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 04, 2021, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

High likely that sportsbooks will favor Casimero here.
But definitely, Casimero should not take this fight for granted.
Few months of training is still ahead of him, so there's a lot of time to prepare for this match.
Now, we just wait what odds are waiting for them.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

I see Casimero dominating this fight, Rogondeaux is a former champion and can send a big signal to Inoue if he wins by a knockout.

That's the only lose record of Rigondeaux but I have to agree that he tend to lose focus and if you'll fight against Casimero, you should know to focus on the match until its done. Casimero is a great boxer and younger compare Rigondeaux, I also see Casimero will be in favor on this match they both have a great history of matches, and I can't wait to see the result of this one.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Right, when he was given the dose of his own medicine and be dominated, he mentally breaks down and just say he doesn't want to fight anymore.

Quote from: robelneo on May 04, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I see Casimero dominating this fight, Rogondeaux is a former champion and can send a big signal to Inoue if he wins by a knockout.

If Casimero hits Rigondeaux in early rounds, I would say this fight will not go to distance. Rigondeaux doesn't want to get hit, just like in the Loma fight, that's already a blue print on how to beat a defensive boxer like him. break him down early specially with body shots.

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I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

I see Casimero dominating this fight, Rogondeaux is a former champion and can send a big signal to Inoue if he wins by a knockout.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 04, 2021, 05:00:13 PM

And then he quit against Loma, highly touted fight but it became a one sided fight and Loma frustrates him and made him "no mas".

I saw the highlight of this fight, seems like Rigondeaux doesn't have the power anymore, he can't match Loma's style and he quit in the fight. if you look at him, he doesn't sound like he was badly hurt, with that, I loss my respect on him as he is not a real warrior.

I watched the highlights again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmE_4RxLDuU

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 04, 2021, 04:26:27 PM

Quote from: Luzin on May 04, 2021, 07:02:06 AM

Their age is 8 years apart, that's quite a distance, maybe Casimero's stamina is superior. Seeing Rigondeaux's range, he was superior. Looking at Casimero's status even though he is younger, it turns out that he has a better record. But the two of them haven't played in a long time, so I'm not going to guess the winner.

Though the odds are not available yet on the bookies but i guess Casimero would be the favorite on this match. Rigondeaux is on the twilight of his career while Casimero is on it's peak, that's my basis.

Yes, Casimero will be the big favourite here.

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 04, 2021, 04:26:27 PM

When Rigondeaux fought and won against Nonito Donaire, i thought that this boxer would be big but it turns out the other way. His style suits on the amateur competition while boxing fans wants to see a fighter going toe to toe and brawl like Manny Pacqauio, that maybe the reason why Rigondeaux's name is not a hit in boxing when he is in his prime while Casimero's style suits to the taste of most boxing fans.

Outstanding amateur career for the Jackal (I think this is his moniker if I'm not mistaken). He is really more of a defensive boxer. It's not only his style, but his personality is not being like by boxing fans. Floyd and for those who have seen Pernell Whitaker (RIP) was well love even if they are defensive genuis on their prime.

And then he quit against Loma, highly touted fight but it became a one sided fight and Loma frustrates him and made him "no mas".

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There's plenty of time to prepare for this fight, I guess Casimero is already in the Philippines now so he can train more and be more comfortable as he is in his own country. Casimero is more popular now since he beat Tete, but this fighter should not be taken for granted as he has become champion before.

I believe the effort of Casimero does not change whoever opponent he will be facing, and now that he is under MP promotion, he is more improved compared to the past. Hopefully, after this fight, if Casimero would be successful, we will see the long-awaited Casimero vs Inoue.

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I guess this is a tough fight by Casimero, Rigondeaux is a defensive specialist, he needs to be fast and smart in order to beat him. However, on a positive note, since it's Casimero who is the depending champion, Rigondeaux here needs to be aggressive if he wants to win this fight from the judges' scorecards.

If he can't him Casimero will clean shots, I guess he might lose, he has to remember that as a challenger, he has to be aggressive and convincing to the judges is necessary, so he needs to work on that.

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They both have a clean record but the only big difference I see is that, their age and the days of being inactive. Rigondeaux is almost 2 years of being in active and I see this as a big disadvantage considering his age as well. I’m not being biased here but I’m confident that Casimero will win and he’s a Pinoy pride of course, have to support him all the time.

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Quote from: Luzin on May 04, 2021, 07:02:06 AM

Their age is 8 years apart, that's quite a distance, maybe Casimero's stamina is superior. Seeing Rigondeaux's range, he was superior. Looking at Casimero's status even though he is younger, it turns out that he has a better record. But the two of them haven't played in a long time, so I'm not going to guess the winner.

Though the odds are not available yet on the bookies but i guess Casimero would be the favorite on this match. Rigondeaux is on the twilight of his career while Casimero is on it's peak, that's my basis.

When Rigondeaux fought and won against Nonito Donaire, i thought that this boxer would be big but it turns out the other way. His style suits on the amateur competition while boxing fans wants to see a fighter going toe to toe and brawl like Manny Pacqauio, that maybe the reason why Rigondeaux's name is not a hit in boxing when he is in his prime while Casimero's style suits to the taste of most boxing fans.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 04, 2021, 03:51:41 AM

What do you think about this fight? I'm sure this is a great fight, who do you think will win? will Casimero continue his popularity after this fight?

When it comes to experience and punching power then i would definitely go for Casimero but doesnt mean that Cuban fighter wont really be giving some fight.
They are similar in height but different in reach on where Rigondeaux does have longer reach which mean Casimero should really be careful and much better if
he would really be focusing on in-fight rather than on technicalities on being far yet he would really be on disadvantage.

Lastly, i thought that Casimero vs Inoue would push through but it seems both fighters does have their own fights with other boxers but lets see
if after these fights they would be both comes next.

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Casimero is currently on his prime and people have to remember how he pummeled Duke Micah within just 3 rounds on his last fight. On the other hand, Ortiz is still explosive but now showing signs of passing his prime, different to his usual. Not degrading Ortiz as he has a good overall record but battling against a much younger and currently on prime will be difficult for him (his last fight was against a 38 year old on which he won via Split decision).

There's still no venue for the fight but I hope it will happened. Both fighters don't have a match for about a year now (8 months for Casimero).

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 04, 2021, 08:53:33 AM

Quote from: Japinat on May 04, 2021, 03:51:41 AM

~snip~
Casimero record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916 (30 wins - 4 loses)

Rigondeaux record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989 (20 wins - 1 loss)

^ Record shows that Casimero has more fights and more wins and it would probably he will be the possible winner in this match.
If you will look into their personal stats, Rigondeaux has more inactive days than his opponent which means probably he did not have active into boxing activity. And also age it seems he is also older than Casimero, at age of 40 will probably a good sign to stop your boxing career. However, this is only my personal opinion. I will go in Casimero here, it seems he will be got high odds.

high odds because hes the underdog 😁
casimero is no match to him. he will not last a round against this guy. did you see what he did to donaire?
rigondeaux stopped fighting for awhile but it doesnt mean he forgets his boxing skills and he is too big for casimero.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 04, 2021, 03:51:41 AM

~snip~
Casimero record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916 (30 wins - 4 loses)

Rigondeaux record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989 (20 wins - 1 loss)

^ Record shows that Casimero has more fights and more wins and it would probably he will be the possible winner in this match.
If you will look into their personal stats, Rigondeaux has more inactive days than his opponent which means probably he did not have active into boxing activity. And also age it seems he is also older than Casimero, at age of 40 will probably a good sign to stop your boxing career. However, this is only my personal opinion. I will go in Casimero here, it seems he will be got high odds.

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@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.

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Their age is 8 years apart, that's quite a distance, maybe Casimero's stamina is superior. Seeing Rigondeaux's range, he was superior. Looking at Casimero's status even though he is younger, it turns out that he has a better record. But the two of them haven't played in a long time, so I'm not going to guess the winner.

Source: https://champinon.info/schedule/rigondeaux-vs-casimero/#close

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 04, 2021, 04:14:18 AM

I think Casimero will have the edge here. Rigondeaux is somewhat on the decline is the last couple of years and I think Father Time is catching up with him. While Casimero is at his peak right now and obviously, the brawler and has knock out punch in both hands.

This is still a good fight although Rigondeaux is not undefeated anymore.
Actually, Tete was a defensive fighter too, in fact, he is taller and he can impose his defensive style but Casimero found a way to destroy his defense and he was hit by a huge upper cut IIRC.

I like this fight as both fighters are well respected, this should bring real entertainment during fight night.

Quote from: btc_angela on May 04, 2021, 04:14:18 AM

The only problem I see is that Rigondeaux is a defensive boxer, so it might frustrate Casimero if he can't hit a moving target and he might used a lot of energy chasing Rigondeaux around.

I hope we will see a good fight, not a boring fight, and with that said, Casimero should dictate this fight.

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