Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 11. (Read 12549 times)

unfortunately nowadays people no longer have a choice when it comes to kyc, even though people are afraid of doing kyc in a new casino, but if they want to use the new casino then I recommend that they do kyc before putting money in, and it is a fact that most new casinos are suspicious and become scams, it is a fact that the sign up bonus is no longer easy to claim because the wagering requirements are very high, it even seems that new casinos have combined, because in most casinos I have seen 40x wagering requirements in many new casinos when they give the sign-up bonus and they only give it to people who deposit amounts above $300, something that I don't think is worth it.

but there are still people who are fooled by these sign-up bonuses and keep chasing new casinos, for these people, my advice is to do kyc before depositing money in the casino and deposit small amounts of money, and pray that the casino does not fail. become a scam and don't sell or leak customer documents

If we are forced to complete Kyc procedures in any of the services we use, this does not mean that we do not care about those procedures or that we do not care about sharing our personal data. We must ensure that these procedures are also imposed on the platform within the activity license and that this is related to the anti-money laundering and suspicious activities policy. On this basis, there is no problem in completing these procedures, provided that we ensure that the platform is reliable and qualified to maintain this data, and that the platform is committed not to share our data with any third party or use it in any way. For example, there is no point in having an anonymous casino that does not have an activity license, and at the same time imposes KYC procedures.

It is true that there are decentralized casinos for those who want to maintain their privacy, but unfortunately these platforms require knowledge and experience, in addition to not providing all the features that we find on centralized casinos.

Yes, this is why you should really be that getting used to it because this is how reality works and would really be something inevitable because gambling business is really that involving huge revenue or simply having those tons of incoming and outgoing transactions on which it couldnt really be just that simply ignored by the government. In order for them to be able to operate then they would really be needing up those licenses and permissions for them to be able to proceed on. We do know that they would really be needing up to comply on what are those rules and trying out to implement. This is why sooner or later it wouldnt really be that much different if we do tend to compare fiat casinos and crypto ones but of course there would really be still those platforms who wont really be that ending up on having this kind of set up.

So it would really be that still depending into you whether you would really be confidently be able to play up with these platforms or not.

Nowadays we KYC everywhere. There are huge quantity of services, who get our data and we don`t care about it. Lots of street cams makes our photos everyday and we don`t care about it. But why the casino must avoid the KYC? It is the same service like others. But anyway if it is critical to someone - he can find casino without KYC yet.
But if the casino use KYC - it must use it fair.

          -   As for me, if I know if the casino here is reputable for cryptocurrency such as stakes, bc.games, cryptogames, duelbits, and rollbit, it's fine for me to submit KYC because it's not really a big deal to me. I would prefer that, from the very beginning of my decision to deposit money, I myself would have taken the initiative to submit KYC to the casino platform.

Whether I win big or not, I don't have any problems to face in the end if ever the opportunity comes for me to win a big amount on their platform. But I will never give kyc to a casino that is new in this field of crypto gambling business.

This is the way I do it too because it sometimes sucks when there are problems when trying to make a withdrawal, I once experienced a problem that annoyed me a little with this KYC system, from the start when I played and made a deposit the site didn't ask for my KYC identity and when withdrawing money Instead they asked for it, I had to provide my KYC identity whereas at that time I only withdrew around $30, actually that was very little money for me to withdraw and risk my identity, I left my money there then left without complaining about it in this forum. I returned after some time and found that the site had gone bankrupt.

But I will try to complete my KYC identity on a site that is trusted and really has a good reputation at the start of registering to avoid problems later, so I don't need to worry about my identity either, although there is still a chance that the site will be hacked and The identity of all users will not be safe, it all comes back to the trust of each user, all gamblers must be smart and choose a casino that can be trusted to follow the rules, for example providing identity to follow the rules.

Well said. Despite being against so many casinos in many ways, the KYC is not always part of it, and so long as the casinos did not tell you they are no-KYC casinos, it is in their every right to ask you for the KYC completion at any time regardless of the situation. The issue with our people is that they are too trusting and relaxed about this. Too trusting in the sense that since the casinos did not ask them for the KYC for years because they are losing or not making a reasonable amount of money from their pocket, they believe they will not ask them if they now started making regular or big withdrawals. They are also relaxed in the sense that what are they waiting for when they are dealing with centralised casinos that they can't complete their KYC as and when due?

If you never wanted to complete a KYC, why not go for the decentralised casinos? That's the way I view it. Now, it becomes an inconvenience when they are hoping to get their withdrawal as fast as possible but the casino requested for the KYC to be completed. This could be so annoying but I will always absolve KYC casinos or the ones that are silent about it of any wrongdoing. If at all it is not stated in their terms and conditions, so far they also have not advertised a no-KYC, it is the right of the person to ask the support for clarification, and that is what I do.

Above all, I complete my KYC even before I send my first deposit and I think it is smart enough to avoid later issues.

As much as I agree with you, I also will not blame casinos entirely for this type of move, reasons being that, most casinos gamblers hate kyc, and as soon as they sign up on a casino, and the casino ask them to pass kyc verification before they can be able to deposit and play on the platform, that gambler will immediately abandon that casino and go for another one where they can deposit, play without having to go through/pass kyc verification.

This is majorly why a greater number of casinos this day would allow a gambler register, deposit and play without kyc, but the moment that such a player wins and requests a withdrawal, such user will be asked to pass kyc verification, and they do this at time of withdrawal because the gambler have no other choice or option this moment, other than to submit the requested documents for the verification, doing otherwise, the gambler may never be able to access his or her money, lol 😂.

As much as possible it would really be that best that you should really be not able to submit any KYC and this is where crypto is really be that known for on which on the moment
that they would really be that able to encounter such thing then they would really be not that much of having that liking in terms of KYC but its true that as long you dont do something
or having any issues about of your identification then i dont really see such about having that too much issue on where people are really that tending to avoid it into.
We are really that living in a world where everything would really be known and centralized or simply being licensed on which it do basically means that we would really be going
ahead about such integration.

If a casino does this, I think they hope that someone will make a deposit and lose money in the meantime. If you don't allow a player to withdraw without kyc - you shouldn't allow him to deposit either. Such practices prove that the website only cares about profits and does not care about the user.

Yes, there are such casinos. And it is normally to choose your way - with KYC or without it. But today`s realty is that the main part of well-known casinos ask KYC. I don`t afraid KYC, it`s not a problem for me, i`m ready to KYC if i like casino. But i don`t like KYC during withdrawal. The best way is to make a new standard - an opportunity to KYC by gambler.

You are right, bro; that's also what I said earlier. Some casinos would not allow customers to deposit, or even after a deposit, they would not be allowed to gamble until they passed KYC. Some casinos always state on their T&P that "they may and they have the right to ask for KYC anytime they like." Which means they can ask a customer to do KYC before withdrawal; it was in their terms and policy, and a customer cannot change it. 

If house edge is low, I mean too low to favour players, they will win and if it's too high, then players will make much loses isn't. A reasonable house edge is what can make player loss to be in the bearest minimum otherwise there is going to be losses from players.

To completely eliminate all this kinds of problems that will comes later, if a casino has a KYC and you want to play there with peace of mind without anything obstructing withdrawals later, it's better to do the KYC even before making the deposit, this will save from explanations and the frustration that will come later if they start rejecting your KYC because they doubt you and how you won the game and if you can't, it's better to gamble in a place where kyc will never require.

If you don't expect KYC - then maybe you don't expect the casino to have a license either. KYC and Licensing are a package deal - meaning that when casinos strive to operate legally, they must comply with established rules. The government expects to implement KYC on various platforms so that they can eradicate many cases of money laundering or other illegal activities - but in essence, you can choose your own path.

Between licensed and unlicensed casinos - both also have risks. You should be very good at determining which casinos can be trusted based on their reputation and other users' experiences - this is a must. Casinos that have KYC rules do not make it completely safe for you to play at the casino - while non-KYC casinos are the same.

But as much as possible on which it would really be better that we could really be able to play without doing any KYC. Just like the rest been saying above that there are really that still
platforms on which you could really be able to still play and withdraw without needing up some verification on which this is really that something good or more better in compared
into those platforms who are already that becoming that too centralized like Stake.com based up on experience.

For you to be able to make some withdrawal then you would be needing up to have that verified ID for you to pass that verification because if you dont able to pass it up
then there's no way that you could really be able to withdraw. Just like on what been said above that it isnt really that shocking that they do become  that getting
more strict and strict as the years passin by and into the next one.

That`s what i`m talking about. Only a part of casinos give an opportunity to start KYC myself. It must be a common practice for all casinos.


May be it is so. I don`t have my own casino. I decided this problem making test withdrawals until casino start KYC. But i prefer to have an opportunity to KYC when i want, before i need fast withdrawal.

Not everything would really be written on terms and conditions and this is where people do usually check it out on which its true but if you are dealing with the wrong place or something a shady website
or into those unheard of then you wont really be able to notice it out since its not written if you do tend to look out for those informations. This is why the key on here is that you should really be that knowing
on where you should really be playing and not really just that simply diving into those sites which not really that popular or not heard of. This is the main reason on why people do really get scammed or being
ending up on holded up with some funds just because they are really that too careless on making deposits just because of some good offers or bonuses on which this causes for them to mess up
entirely on the moment that they have locked up those withdrawals.

This is why we should really be that careful on what we are dealing with and it would really be best that you should really know on where you would be placing up yourself
and not really just that deposit carelessly.

Lol, better get serious bud, those who run this casino possibly know gamblers more than the gamblers know themselves, the management of every casino understands that if they allow you to kyc at any time you want, you will come, deposit, play, possibly win, withdraw, and this process you and any other typical gambler will repeat over and over again without ever bothering to pass the kyc verification, this is possibly the reason why most of them will wait until you are requesting a withdrawal before the impose the kyc verification on you, knowing that such time it critical for you and you can't avoid complying, else, you will never get your money 😂.

But here is a thing though, I have come to learn to respect casinos that will ask a customer to pass kyc verification immediately after the customer finish signing up, that is, they make it mandatory to pass the kyc verification before you are allowed to even deposit on the casino.
Casinos like this are the ones doing it right.

We just need to know if the casino we are playing does have that requirements. Then after  we know those information and we like the casino then its more better to submit that requirement first so that there would be no other factor that can give us stress especially if we want to withdraw. That's why before any trouble happen then we better submit those information's needed so when crucial times came then we can do all things that important to do without getting bothered by the casino. I also don't mind if reputable casino will ask some piece of information that thing didn't bother me as they can't do anything or get something from me. I don't heard about tax authority rumored but if government will require us to get tax on this activity I will still follow what they order because  I personally don't want to get issue with them.

But you can start by passing KYC after registration. It might be your initiative to pass KYC and continue gambling, and not wait when they decided to ask for it unexpectedly. Wont it be better? Casinos will ask for KYC anyway, when gambler reaches some point or script triggers. Imho it will be better to get ahead of a system and enjoy the game, then to wait and test if you are going to be asked to pass KYC today, next week or after next withdrawal. Personally I dont mind if some reputed casino has a little bit of my private information. Personally I have never heard stories when a person send documents to casino, and later got a surprise letter from government and tax authorities.