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legendary
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

Do you mean to say that casino with mandatory KYC is more trusted than those casinos with no mandatory KYC? If you think so, I have to disagree because once players created an account in casinos where KYC is not mandatory but there is clear statement that the casino reserves the right to ask KYC at anytime or for special cases, means that players agreed with this terms already. Casinos asking KYC for big amount of withdrawal can be said as normal thing, although I dont like KYC but I can accept this situation. As long as the casino release the withdrawal once KYC is completed, there is nothing wrong with it.
legendary
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.

I will repeat it once again, casinos dont ask for kyc just for fun, even though it wasnt a mandatory. Ok, there are times when security team randomly send kyc requests, when they have nothing to do, but they must show that they are working. % of such random cases is tiny. They are busy all the time. If gambler hasnt dont anything bad, there is nothing bad from passing kyc. After, they might be just curious who they are about to send money to. But in most cases there is always a strong reason to ask for kyc. With the amount of casinos today, not a single casino would ask for kyc for nothing and be endangered of losing a customer (maybe loyal).
legendary
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The suggestion to make KYC verification a prerequisite for deposits could indeed streamline the process, setting clear expectations for users while aiming to enhance trust and transparency.
From other side, it could make signing up harder and slower for new users, raising concerns about privacy right from the start. While aiming for more trust and transparency, it's key to think about how this might put off newcomers or complicate the initial steps. Your "dragon spheres" analogy adds a fun twist, highlighting the tough task of changing how things are done to be more user friendly. It's crucial to keep looking for ways to balance security, privacy, and ease of use for everyone.
Well, knowing all this, assuming that customers will have greater clarity in trust and security, do you think that some players can expect something from casinos? So what do we know or what can we expect, for example, traditional casinos are the first to They can do it, the competition has to fulfill it as well, I am sure that if a reliable casino takes the initiative, all the other casinos will follow, because that is how it works, there is no other way, things with the competition are like that, as long as yes There is something that will take them forward, they will do it, plus the most reliable casinos do not lose anything and have their customers and many are already fully registered with their KYC at high levels, I think that would be a great difficult requirement for nascent or relatively new casinos.
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun

If it had been easy, i know many would have also established one gambling casino and operate their own rules which i believe could have even been wore than the ones we are seeing them complaining about, the problem with the people is that they don't put their self in such conditions that if they were the ones involved operating a casino, wouldn't they demand more than that or even do the worse, if we think we cant go by their rules, then the better we take a leave and find a more suitable platform and if none is found, we can as well go ahead in creating one and see how easy it is.
legendary
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Just a warning in case it prevents someone from falling into this shitty scheme.

I was checking a crypto-casino with very easy entry just asking email and country, and allowed deposits in the main cryptos. I didn't need to deposit anything to realize that to withdraw funds they did require a complete KYC with ID, etc. I also tested registering from a banned country and even indicating it on the form, and it does not prevent you from making a deposit.

I guess I stated the obvious, but I don't see the point for gamblers in using this.
 
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I'll share the site since so much people is asking, but I guess this is usual:
https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/ with a referal who leads you to the domain you'll be logged

In FAQ you find it clearly: https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/faq/

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Do I have to submit any documents when depositing money?
There are no documents needed for making a deposit at El Royale Casino. However, in some rare cases, we might ask you to provide a Credit Card Validation form to ensure the safety of your transactions.

How do I request a payout?
After you have submitted all the necessary documents for proving your identity, you will be able to request a payout in the Cashier section of your account. If you are using your mobile device, you need to go to “Menu,” and then to the section “Payout”.

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El Royale is operated by Wonder Play Company N.V. having its office in Willemstad, Curacao. Company Registration number 162233.

When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding USD 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount at El Royale, they are obliged to undergo a full KYC procedure, wherein the user shall submit some basic details about themselves and then upload the files listed below:

A copy of Government Issued Photo ID (in some cases front and back depending on the doc)
A selfie of themselves holding the ID doc
A bank statement/Utility Bill

Yeah, pretty fair: give me 2K with no questions, but you won't be able to get a penny without fulfilling the rules. I'ts a regulatory joke. Even is a gambler trap: " I'll try to make it a big ammount so it's worth it to do the paperwork, then you loose. Unacceptable

If you live in most developed countries you better learn this lesson very quick, as it'll end up expensive for you otherwise. There are some casinos that even try going to the lengths of wanting to identify the company that you work for which seems like a gross amount of excess data gathering. In fairness, you'll find lots of them have huge welcome bonuses and if you've capitalized off them, then it's a small price to pay for them to complete identity verification at the payout stage. Sometimes they might catch a few people breaking the terms and retain any winnings, but they should always return the original deposit if that is the case - to be fair. You'll see KYC plastered all over this forum, so should learn to expect it these days.
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.

I completely agree with you, but unfortunately decentralized casinos do not provide the same features and are not of the same quality compared to central casinos. You know the lack of decentralization culture among the majority who come from the background of traditional fiat casino platforms.

There is no problem with the casino requesting verification procedures every time it is necessary. Even if the user has completed these procedures during registration, the platform may request that the verification process be repeated to match it with the first approved documents. On this basis, I find it normal for the platform to request a repeat of the verification procedures when the withdrawal amount is large. I think this increases the security feature on the platform, unless the casino’s goal is to disrupt withdrawals and not to perform a normal verification procedure.

The best solution to avoid any unexpected disruptions is to use reliable platforms that are sure of the large amount of liquidity they have.
hero member
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.
Actually it is really just that simple as that for a particular gamble to do such thing on which they would really be just simply skip out if there would really be that outright asking of KYC documents on the time that they do register into a certain site. Although there are some sites now that asking for some lite KYC on which this is something that happens or asked out on Roobet on where asking some basic information and those KYC have that levels on which it would really be basing up on how much  you do deposit or possibly be able to withdrawal on which on the time that you would really be able to hit up such threshold then they would really be just that
basically asking out on whats recommended.

This is why on the time that you would really be having that kind of approach about KYC then there's so much options that we could really be able to take. Due to that tough or high competition
within this industry then you could really be having tons of options when choosing up on a platform. There are still places on which you could really be able to play without minding
that much about those KYC thing or simply you can play anonymously.
legendary
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I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.
That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our  friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.
We think that all the time we are ready to receive new things from casinos , and sometimes not very pleasant ones, because basically things in casinos Always do things in their favor, nothing in favor of the customers, and it is abnormal, it is a casino, As you know, many advertisements, contests and various things like bonuses are done in an attractive way so that they can attract the attention of the players, but if we know how things are, sometimes they tend to be a little more difficult. Well, when you see that there are very big requirements, sometimes people back off and there is nothing to do, because they are very difficult requirements to meet, I am one of those who this happens to, and especially because I am very impatient for playing, so when it comes to making withdrawals, if we do not encounter problems due to the KYC, for me it is enough to go to that Casino for each year I play more, and that is why the one who loses the most is the casino, not as a player, because one always finds Opportunities to play.
hero member
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
Gamblers are free to make decisions about registering with a particular casino. Now if a casino makes KYC verification mandatory and a gambler is not interested in doing kyc then that gambler will refrain from joining this casino because casinos will never force gamblers to join their casino. However, if some casinos do not make kyc mandatory, casinos use kyc as an excuse to withhold the gambler's winning funds when the gambler wins big. And the casinos that engage in such activities can never be trusted casinos, they can create even worse situations for the gambler in the future.
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
Yes, you are right that they want to very know your customer identity if they suspect you. But they only suspect you when anyone wins or tries to withdraw funds. Many a gambling site won't restrict anything until there is a withdrawal request. So, it is good for gamblers? If we aren't ready to fulfill these terms then we must stop gambling on those sites that require any types of verification.
legendary
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First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.
I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.
Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time
Even if we do say that you are spending on the amount that you can afford to lose but still its not something that not will really be  giving up any problem even if its free money or extra. We do know that losing money is never been fun and even if you do deal up with legitimate platforms but still you would really be having on the same feeling or emotions towards loses.  Speaking about legitimate or reputable gambling casino platforms then it wont really be that so hard on making yourself on finding one. We do have that Google on which we could really be able to search up any information that we could really be able to
check on about specially into those casino background check or whatever information it would be.

Usually you would be facing up these withdrawal hold and ask some KYC into those shady ones but somewhat this has become standard because once you do win up big
then there would really be some sort of verification but actually its not really that much of an issue for me.
Well, there is talk of spending money that you do not want to lose, it is normal, but you have to comply with it to be able to do things better, that is, it is preferable to have a controlled balance. to lose a total of the balance, that is something that many eprosn do not consider and that is why the problems come later, of the money they lost when they should not have lost, then basically it is a security measure for ourselves as players, it is something which should be avoided, of course we are people who will always seek to win, but sometimes it is inevitable to lose.

The thing about money willing to lose is a strategy that I use for trading and that I brought to the game to avoid constant losses.
hero member
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That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our  friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.
The problem is that casinos don`t want to do it. They like this opportunity and say something about "we allow gambler not to spend time waiting the KYC. He can begin gambling after his first deposit immediately". But the truth is that they can freeze your money for a long enough time. And it is difficult enough to change casino because the main part of them have something about it.



I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

There is no doubt that gambling is the risky game and those who gamble know that they are taking risk with their money in order to gain profits and in the process they may lose money too.

However, being not able to KYC even after winning is not termed as bad luck but a scam by the new gambling sites. They will allow you to gamble and deposit without KYC but when you win something and place a withdrawal order they may start to ask for KYC. The bad ones won't approve the KYC and hence your money is stuck in the casino.

To avoid this situation it is always recommended that we do the KYC first so this risk of getting scammed by casinos is eliminated to some extent. Now it only leaves us with luck in gambling and if we have good luck we can make money in gambling and cash it out.
I know about it. But the problem that we often has no opportunity to KYC ourselves. I try to make several small deposits before big betting to get KYC but not always it is possible.
legendary
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I find it simple - dont gamble at all if you dont want to play under their rules. Open your own casino and do whatever you want. I strongly believe that casino will never ask for KYC just for fun, just because you are some kind of a special player and their security team decided to pay attention to you. They do ask KYC if they find there is something suspicious about you. If you havent violated anything, there will be no problem to pass it. Scared of loosing identity, go to decentralized casinos. Quite simple, clear and no need to stretch this situation, turning topic into hundred pages long.
hero member
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I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organization.

There is no doubt that gambling is a risky game and those who gamble know that they are taking risks with their money to gain profits and in the process, they may lose money too.

However, being not able to KYC even after winning is not termed as bad luck but a scam by the new gambling sites. They will allow you to gamble and deposit without KYC but when you win something and place a withdrawal order they may start to ask for KYC. The bad ones won't approve the KYC and hence your money is stuck in the casino.

To avoid this situation it is always recommended that we do the KYC first so this risk of getting scammed by casinos is eliminated to some extent. Now it only leaves us with luck in gambling and if we have good luck we can make money in gambling and cash it out.

I disagree with the part where you said they will allow you to deposit without KYC, this is already common with crypto exchanges too and I believe that all gamblers on this forum know this about crypto exchanges too, why blame the casinos only?

Few crypto exchanges will restrict you from withdrawing if your amount is big and will only allow a certain amount to be withdrawn every 24 hours and some don't even give room for such.

If we can put the blame on online casinos for this act, then gamblers have their blame too, what's stopping them from passing KYC first before even starting to gamble on every online casino they choose to use?

KYC and online casinos are like 5 and 6, always in one, be ready to pass it or forget online gambling, I would rather pass KYC first before using it instead of trying to pass it after I won some money.
I understand the school of thought you are bringing this from and I love it as well because the two of them (casinos and exchanges) are dealing with people's deposits and withdrawals. However, to buttress your points, there are many financial services and payment gateways doing this even before online casinos came into operation, and they still do this now. These are companies with the highest level of regulations operating in strict countries like the UK, US and Europe. This is possible because it is allowed by the rules of their regulators to provide a limited financial service for a particular customer/client without verification, and just as you explained what exchanges do, these companies do such as well.

There will be limitations to the amount they can transfer and there can be a certain grace time they can go without verification. This also varies depending on the transaction of the customer/client, the country of residence and how suspicious the customer is. These 3 factors are important and could prompt what many call unjustified calling for KYC completion by casinos, neglecting that the casino they are dealing with is not a no-KYC type. I simply see no fault in any regulated entities calling for the completion of KYC at any time, so far they are regulated and have not advertised no-KYC to you, just know that it might only be a matter of time if you do not do it now, they will ask you to complete it later.
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I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organization.

There is no doubt that gambling is a risky game and those who gamble know that they are taking risks with their money to gain profits and in the process, they may lose money too.

However, being not able to KYC even after winning is not termed as bad luck but a scam by the new gambling sites. They will allow you to gamble and deposit without KYC but when you win something and place a withdrawal order they may start to ask for KYC. The bad ones won't approve the KYC and hence your money is stuck in the casino.

To avoid this situation it is always recommended that we do the KYC first so this risk of getting scammed by casinos is eliminated to some extent. Now it only leaves us with luck in gambling and if we have good luck we can make money in gambling and cash it out.

I disagree with the part where you said they will allow you to deposit without KYC, this is already common with crypto exchanges too and I believe that all gamblers on this forum know this about crypto exchanges too, why blame the casinos only?

Few crypto exchanges will restrict you from withdrawing if your amount is big and will only allow a certain amount to be withdrawn every 24 hours and some don't even give room for such.

If we can put the blame on online casinos for this act, then gamblers have their blame too, what's stopping them from passing KYC first before even starting to gamble on every online casino they choose to use?

KYC and online casinos are like 5 and 6, always in one, be ready to pass it or forget online gambling, I would rather pass KYC first before using it instead of trying to pass it after I won some money.
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I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

There is no doubt that gambling is the risky game and those who gamble know that they are taking risk with their money in order to gain profits and in the process they may lose money too.

However, being not able to KYC even after winning is not termed as bad luck but a scam by the new gambling sites. They will allow you to gamble and deposit without KYC but when you win something and place a withdrawal order they may start to ask for KYC. The bad ones won't approve the KYC and hence your money is stuck in the casino.

To avoid this situation it is always recommended that we do the KYC first so this risk of getting scammed by casinos is eliminated to some extent. Now it only leaves us with luck in gambling and if we have good luck we can make money in gambling and cash it out.
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There have been cases also whereby the gamblers are the causes to this kind of experience because they raised the false alarm first for the gambling platforms to put an eye on them, in supplying anything for KYC, we should make sure they we totally avoid any form of error, such could be termed a suspicious move on us to bypass their regular process and checks for users identity when you're having a different aim from your end.
lets not mentioned those who deserves such restrictions because as gambler we must know what rules in each
site we are dealing and we must comply to never experience issues , but what we need to understand here is that
the casino that is victimizing players because we have seen this many times than players are cheating  gambling site.
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First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.
I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.


The suggestion to make KYC verification a prerequisite for deposits could indeed streamline the process, setting clear expectations for users while aiming to enhance trust and transparency.
From other side, it could make signing up harder and slower for new users, raising concerns about privacy right from the start. While aiming for more trust and transparency, it's key to think about how this might put off newcomers or complicate the initial steps. Your "dragon spheres" analogy adds a fun twist, highlighting the tough task of changing how things are done to be more user friendly. It's crucial to keep looking for ways to balance security, privacy, and ease of use for everyone.
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KYC is bloody mandatory these days, mate, but it saves ya heaps of strife when ya wanna have a fair go against the pokies joint that's holding onto ya winnings. Normally, they don't hang onto ya dosh when ya strike it rich and wanna cash out. Once ya've already verified yaself, they don't hassle ya again. So, reckon KYC's a necessary annoyance, but worth it in the end.
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One of the main things on why crypto gambling had become that big or popular because of this kind of feature on which it is something that anonymous but the time comes that these platforms did become that centralized for them to be able to make operation continuously on which they don't really have no choice but to accept it out despite the crypto community hates it. So far it isnt really that strictly been implemented because
usually KYC could really be only asked on the time that you had committed some violation and this is something that they would really be asking some KYC but not on the time that you would be making continous withdrawal because if they would really be asking about KYC on the time that you would really be making withdrawal then this is something that shows that they are doing shady thing.

Normally a person who always enters a casino the only thing they think about is winning and withdrawing, I think that is something basic, however all this is sometimes wrapped in an endless number of things that can be very welcoming to please others, Some say it is for fun, others for enjoyment, but I have noticed that almost no one tells the truth, the truth is money, fun and enjoyment if they are on one side, but I think that here the main thing is that, money, In fact, no one goes to a casino just to have fun using play money, everyone goes with money and to spend, but when that right is skewed by something as non-elementary for us as players as a KYC, where the majority is full of rage, because here the common thing is to do things well, so good that the KYC is accepted and verified, but it enters another complication that the verification can last up to days and that complicates everything.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.
That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our  friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.

Well then, because of these things, we must see that as now the KYC is a Mandatory process, well, the cais should not do that, they do not lose anything, in fact so many Problems would be avoided that they would almost be an example for others to copy from them. Of course, not everyone would do this for the simple fact that they believe that people will not enter , but sooner or later everything should only be done by us, of course I Always say something, it is better to trust the casinos that have a high reputation, a high degree of trust so that relatively new casinos are not generated by Others, I am Someone who does not trust much, I am always somewhat suspicious of them.
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