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Quote from: mak013 on April 04, 2024, 07:16:08 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 03, 2024, 03:52:46 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

That's more better they should require this at first so that no confusion related on future implementation and for sure to many can accept that set up rather than this requirement will be ask later on once they request something since their casino might provably get a bad reputation for that reasons.

If they care about the feed back of people they should not deceive by telling they are not KYC compliant but at the end they ask their users especially when withdrawal request has been submitted.

If they cheat and say something misleading then its better to leave their casino and warn our friends regarding to those misleading claims they are posting on their thread.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 03, 2024, 03:52:46 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

That`s what i`m talking about! If the casino make us KYC, they have to do it before the first deposit. At least we must have an opportunity to KYC ourselves. In such way gambler can choose his way - if he don`t want to KYC he can change casino, if he don`t afraid of it - he KYC and has no problem with withdrawals. But casinos don`t want to lose such opportunity to cheat.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 03, 2024, 03:52:46 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

In my opinion, it would be correct to draw a clear line between fiat payments in casinos, which are completely personalized and use verified bank accounts, and payments in cryptocurrencies, which are completely anonymous and the owner of a cryptocurrency deposit in a casino can maintain this complete anonymity.
Unfortunately, now legislators, introducing de-anonymization into cryptocurrency, completely ignore and have spoiled the main property of cryptocurrency as anonymous money. And this offensive from exchanges and casinos is also very active. Fewer and fewer casinos do not require identity verification. And voluntarily reporting and distributing your personal data to dozens of not very reliable businesses, in my opinion, can generally be considered a crime against a person’s right to privacy.
Legislators need to start protecting these very human rights to privacy in the issue of cryptocurrency payments. Unfortunately, no one from Congress even says anything on this topic. In any case, I have not heard anything intelligible from congressmen about this approach to the problem.
But the problem exists, this is obvious.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Well, if we consider that we take risks at every moment to carry out any activity, then we could have a better understanding of things.

For example, I am a person who joins any bank, or any FIAT style organization. What is emphasized here is that Fiat money is what is legal, what is common and what many people strive to protect because it has a higher order of legitimacy, however, in an online casino with crypto, I believe that criminals have more free rein to do their misdeeds, because Governments require KYC, but at the end of the day we know that they will use that same KYC in some moment against us and that is the only thing that should be avoided, that is why so much drama with the KYC to withdraw, although as I have said many times the casinos should be more Illustrative , instead of announcing that they make deposits, they should say that they first make the verification of their KYC to be able to make the deposit, that would be the most loyal thing they could do to avoid all these problems , but I think that not even with the dragon spheres ocn 3 wishes would I do it.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on April 01, 2024, 03:36:56 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on April 01, 2024, 12:45:33 PM

If you supply the site with the required informations and documents that are fully secured to avoid identity theft and date breeze, and you get the approval and verification on time, I think no one will complain, but a situation where the gambler supply all the needed documents and information yet will not get verified due to the intention of the bad actors, this are the one that make gamblers to see kyc as an attack on them.

There have been cases also whereby the gamblers are the causes to this kind of experience because they raised the false alarm first for the gambling platforms to put an eye on them, in supplying anything for KYC, we should make sure they we totally avoid any form of error, such could be termed a suspicious move on us to bypass their regular process and checks for users identity when you're having a different aim from your end.

I don't think it much when I read from a customer that the casino or any company are not verifying their documents, claiming they are rejecting it after many submissions in some cases. This is because the customers might lie and not tell the actual truth of what transpired between them and the company. Many will have bad documents submitted and would be pressurizing the company to verify them for them, while some will poorly scan/snap the documents or even provide illegitimate documents and expect the company to verify them. It is not until one hears both sides that the truth can be known.

This makes me think towards my angle, I've been dealing with more than 50 companies for decades and these are companies that require KYC and document submission, but none has ever denied my KYC approval and neither has any of them blocked my account or swindled me with the money deposited. This can only be for the reason that I do the right thing with them. That is why I think at times that there could be some things many people are doing wrongly with the companies that cause the issue. But since people can't verify both sides, they often talk ill of the company even in reviews.

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Quote from: leonair on April 01, 2024, 01:48:40 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time

Even if we do say that you are spending on the amount that you can afford to lose but still its not something that not will really be giving up any problem even if its free money or extra. We do know that losing money is never been fun and even if you do deal up with legitimate platforms but still you would really be having on the same feeling or emotions towards loses. Speaking about legitimate or reputable gambling casino platforms then it wont really be that so hard on making yourself on finding one. We do have that Google on which we could really be able to search up any information that we could really be able to
check on about specially into those casino background check or whatever information it would be.

Usually you would be facing up these withdrawal hold and ask some KYC into those shady ones but somewhat this has become standard because once you do win up big
then there would really be some sort of verification but actually its not really that much of an issue for me.

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Quote from: Fatunad on March 30, 2024, 05:21:10 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

One of the main things on why crypto gambling had become that big or popular because of this kind of feature on which it is something that anonymous but the time comes that these platforms did become that centralized for them to be able to make operation continuously on which they don't really have no choice but to accept it out despite the crypto community hates it. So far it isnt really that strictly been implemented because
usually KYC could really be only asked on the time that you had committed some violation and this is something that they would really be asking some KYC but not on the time that you would be making continous withdrawal because if they would really be asking about KYC on the time that you would really be making withdrawal then this is something that shows that they are doing shady thing.

There is no anonymity, even in cryptocurrencies. May be several years ago, when it was not so famous like nowadays. And the KYC willn`t break it. It is an opportunity to steal your money for cheat casinos. I think that there are some one-day casinos, that created for stealing data, but it mostly looks too cheap to attract attention.
If someone don`t like KYC - it is his decision, i can`t agree or disagree with it. But the same time i can say what i think.

Quote from: leonair on April 01, 2024, 01:48:40 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time

Yes, i know about it and mostly try to have small sums on my deposit for lazy bets. But there are different situations: big prize, nice odds or match in the other casino, etc. In such situations i want to have an opportunity to move my money fast.

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Quote from: Wiwo on April 01, 2024, 12:45:33 PM

If you supply the site with the required informations and documents that are fully secured to avoid identity theft and date breeze, and you get the approval and verification on time, I think no one will complain, but a situation where the gambler supply all the needed documents and information yet will not get verified due to the intention of the bad actors, this are the one that make gamblers to see kyc as an attack on them.

There have been cases also whereby the gamblers are the causes to this kind of experience because they raised the false alarm first for the gambling platforms to put an eye on them, in supplying anything for KYC, we should make sure they we totally avoid any form of error, such could be termed a suspicious move on us to bypass their regular process and checks for users identity when you're having a different aim from your end.

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Quote from: leonair on April 01, 2024, 01:48:40 PM

Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time

When I play I do it with a small balance, I don't have much to lose, but before I was very wasteful and I didn't care much, what I thought was that I could win and get everything back, but when I played and I played and I didn't see any type of winning back, that frustrated me, then I learned that I shouldn't spend a lot of money because later every time I worked I had to do other things to earn more money and that made everything very difficult for me, that's why every time I did anything in the casino How to spend, I refrained from spending a lot, and I had the idea that I had lost all my money, but that was not good, because things are always much more difficult without money.

When there are many responsibilities and payments, one cannot afford to lose money in a casino, it is money that cannot be recovered.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

Always deposit the amount of money in gambling that you will not need for any emergency period. And you won't have any problem losing that money. so from here the quick withdrawal issue does not matter for those who use gambling only for fun. But for those who use gambling as a source of income and spend their important and necessary money on gambling, this is very risky, so those people should use sites that are very reliable and where withdrawal is done quickly. and there it is better to keep their KYC complete from the registration time

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Quote from: Fatunad on March 30, 2024, 05:21:10 PM

One of the main things on why crypto gambling had become that big or popular because of this kind of feature on which it is something that anonymous but the time comes that these platforms did become that centralized for them to be able to make operation continuously on which they don't really have no choice but to accept it out despite the crypto community hates it. So far it isnt really that strictly been implemented because
usually KYC could really be only asked on the time that you had committed some violation and this is something that they would really be asking some KYC but not on the time that you would be making continous withdrawal because if they would really be asking about KYC on the time that you would really be making withdrawal then this is something that shows that they are doing shady thing.

The problem is not centralization but how the bad actors use this so call KYC to victimised gamblers Because ordinarily no one will have a problem with handing out a few details if he is going to enjoy premium features on such sites, and also exceed limit at some point, kyc is meant to facilitate acceptability of cryptocurrency into the gambling industry since many of them are licensed.

If you supply the site with the required informations and documents that are fully secured to avoid identity theft and date breeze, and you get the approval and verification on time, I think no one will complain, but a situation where the gambler supply all the needed documents and information yet will not get verified due to the intention of the bad actors, this are the one that make gamblers to see kyc as an attack on them.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 30, 2024, 11:01:06 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

One of the main things on why crypto gambling had become that big or popular because of this kind of feature on which it is something that anonymous but the time comes that these platforms did become that centralized for them to be able to make operation continuously on which they don't really have no choice but to accept it out despite the crypto community hates it. So far it isnt really that strictly been implemented because
usually KYC could really be only asked on the time that you had committed some violation and this is something that they would really be asking some KYC but not on the time that you would be making continous withdrawal because if they would really be asking about KYC on the time that you would really be making withdrawal then this is something that shows that they are doing shady thing.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

I think that we always risk when give our money to somebody. Sometimes risks are higher. In casino we risk 3 times: deposit, bet, withdraw. The KYC possible increase risk when you withdraw and need your money fast but anyway withdrawal is a risk with KYC or without it.
The main risk with KYC is that someone can use your data. But the same risk you have every moment when you give your data to any organisation.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on March 23, 2024, 05:45:11 AM

And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.

Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.

Actually, there is no problem with a casino if it asks for KYC from the gamblers, as long as the casino is reputed. The only problem is that the casino is new and has not yet been proven in this field of the crypto business industry, so you will be asked for KYC right away.

But in a casino here in the crypto industry that has been operating for several years, I don't think that will be a problem because the community that has been established in this type of gambling is large.

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Quote from: Hamphser on March 29, 2024, 05:23:40 PM

KYC usually been asked out on the t ime that you do hit up some withdrawal threshold or something in between that you have done something shady or something that is their against their rules but as much as possible they would really be trying out to get rid into those people who are really that doing something shady to hit up the jackpot but we know that not all gamblers would really be like that because there would really be those legit wins on which they are really that legitimately won up a bet and they have decided on locking it up and asking for some requirement.

These things wont really be something that you would really be able to experience on, if you are really that dealing with a legitimate site on which this is something that you wouldnt
really be having no problems if you are really that having some time on making up some research on dealing up with sites which does have reputation.

The truth is that I have only had one bad experience in a casino when I went to withdraw and they required KYC, but the truth is it was not a large amount, it was less than 200usd in btc, but when I decided to do it, it lasted a long time for approval, I think the intention The casino's not passing my KYC quickly was to see if I was going to spend that money, since I was there the temptation to play is strong sometimes, however I am a very patient person, I did think about that money but I didn't care, When they finally approved it for me, I withdrew normally, it was not a recognized casino, it was relatively new, but that gave me experience to not do it again.

When I tried to do the same in another casino and they asked me for KYC, well I didn't do it, at the same time I found out that the casino was a scam, so these types of things disappoint me, to comply with KYC what I do is see if the casino is legitimate and has good comments and that his son ANN is active and with good comments, casinos that are highly trusted.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 28, 2024, 04:55:24 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on March 28, 2024, 02:45:52 PM

Agbe I don't see any changes from what we used to have in the gambling industry because at some point whatever the new casinos are putting up as the rules are all copy of what we already know based on kyc and how casinos chasing the customers with it, and we have to be clear with something here which is the fact that most of the casino's that comes up with such KYC when players want to withdraw funds are either doing it for the amount in total winnings and intended withdrawals that is when the withdrawal amount is more than the maximum trenchold for none kyc casino at that point the casino have every regulatory right to demand for verification since the amount is huge and the casino is a centralized AML compliance.

The other one that ask for kyc for such are based on they shady practice and in attempt to unduly hold the funds of the gamblers and this type even when the gambler meet all the demands they will still fail to verify them since they are intentional and meant to scam the gamblers this are bad actor's and scammers in the market.

Yes but these days for like one month interval, the new casino brands that coming to the forum to make advertisement and announced their services, and I have registered asked the KYC information at the time of the registration and the time of withdrawal they only ask some questions and let you to withdraw the founds. And it is not like before that when you registered, there would be no asking of any KYC at the time of the registration but in the withdrawal time then they would the numerous questions and if the answer are not corresponding with the registration information and if found any contradiction of the any information you funds and winnings are lost to the casino. I have seen a casino last week asking of phone number, first name, second and email address in the refrigerator process. And if they are asking like then the questions in the withdrawal time will be lesser.

They usually claim that people don't need to do Kyc since they want people to participate on their activities and gamble. They will just execute this KYC later on once they know that gamblers already settled with their platform and don't have choice but to submit it. Although its really be disappointing to do that part where we thought that we are in a casino which they don't ask much this requirements but at the end they ask us to submit because they want to verify and require us to go proceed in this process. But its up for us to think if we gonna comply or not that's why its important to choose reputable platform to avoid any stress for thinking about their legitimacy and will not worried for providing all necessary things to write as what you have mentioned here. So its important to know first if we are going to submit and choose the best casino so that we can avoid any possible stress since our safety is more important than our urge to gamble.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

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Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

Yes, things are exactly like that, what happens is that we leave our data like this on these platforms because we have to be a little more careful, the truth is that every time I have to give my KYC I think about it a lot. I have seen many cases where for a simple KYC they come and kill People who have crypto, especially bitcoin, so this type of thing is what one tries to alert, when we give our data in some way, yes, we are exposing ourselves in some way I know that nothing is safe, for That's why I always recommend that KYC Always be given in the most famous, reliable and Reputable Casinos.

Each person has their own way of thinking, but I have seen Cases of people who do Absolutely no harm to others , and who suddenly arrive and are assaulted and murdered, and many times it is because they leave their data on the web, so in one casino, a data breach is something very delicate, and that is often the fear that it gives many people.

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

KYC usually been asked out on the t ime that you do hit up some withdrawal threshold or something in between that you have done something shady or something that is their against their rules but as much as possible they would really be trying out to get rid into those people who are really that doing something shady to hit up the jackpot but we know that not all gamblers would really be like that because there would really be those legit wins on which they are really that legitimately won up a bet and they have decided on locking it up and asking for some requirement.

These things wont really be something that you would really be able to experience on, if you are really that dealing with a legitimate site on which this is something that you wouldnt
really be having no problems if you are really that having some time on making up some research on dealing up with sites which does have reputation.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:55 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 27, 2024, 04:13:21 PM

Quote from: mak013 on March 22, 2024, 07:06:17 AM

Of course when i said that we mustn`t be afraid of KYC it doesn`t mean that we can post our data on every site. The casino just one more organization that has your data. No one gives you guarantee that it would be safe, but other organizations are the same. And no one casino(except scam of course) don`t plan to share your data for somebody else.

Yes, things are exactly like that, what happens is that we leave our data like this on these platforms because we have to be a little more careful, the truth is that every time I have to give my KYC I think about it a lot. I have seen many cases where for a simple KYC they come and kill People who have crypto, especially bitcoin, so this type of thing is what one tries to alert, when we give our data in some way, yes, we are exposing ourselves in some way I know that nothing is safe, for That's why I always recommend that KYC Always be given in the most famous, reliable and Reputable Casinos.

Each person has their own way of thinking, but I have seen Cases of people who do Absolutely no harm to others , and who suddenly arrive and are assaulted and murdered, and many times it is because they leave their data on the web, so in one casino, a data breach is something very delicate, and that is often the fear that it gives many people.

First thing i think about is not to show my money to anybody. When you gamble in unknown casinos it is anyway bad decision - you risk and your money, and your data both. And when someone can connect you with your money it is really bad. But i can only repeat what i said long ago - when someone knows that you have money - he can get all your data anyway. The main question is the sum, that becomes interesting for someone serious.

Yes, basically those are the risks that one can suffer when it comes to a casino that makes a difference, because when we are in a casino we do take risks, from the moment we make the first deposit until we make the withdrawal, now more. never because the thing is very given that KYC has to be done compulsorily in all casinos, that is what many do not like, and I personally do not like it, however those are the conditions, so that's what I say , Playing in a place that you know is safe, things are likely to be done that way.

What we have to be clear about is that we as players have to do what is safe for us and guarantees us playing well, because data leaks are something that can happen, so since we are in a casino it is already a risk, of course In fact, everything is a risk, it's just that sometimes we have to take risks and do what we like.

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 28, 2024, 02:45:52 PM

Agbe I don't see any changes from what we used to have in the gambling industry because at some point whatever the new casinos are putting up as the rules are all copy of what we already know based on kyc and how casinos chasing the customers with it, and we have to be clear with something here which is the fact that most of the casino's that comes up with such KYC when players want to withdraw funds are either doing it for the amount in total winnings and intended withdrawals that is when the withdrawal amount is more than the maximum trenchold for none kyc casino at that point the casino have every regulatory right to demand for verification since the amount is huge and the casino is a centralized AML compliance.

The other one that ask for kyc for such are based on they shady practice and in attempt to unduly hold the funds of the gamblers and this type even when the gambler meet all the demands they will still fail to verify them since they are intentional and meant to scam the gamblers this are bad actor's and scammers in the market.

Yes but these days for like one month interval, the new casino brands that coming to the forum to make advertisement and announced their services, and I have registered asked the KYC information at the time of the registration and the time of withdrawal they only ask some questions and let you to withdraw the founds. And it is not like before that when you registered, there would be no asking of any KYC at the time of the registration but in the withdrawal time then they would the numerous questions and if the answer are not corresponding with the registration information and if found any contradiction of the any information you funds and winnings are lost to the casino. I have seen a casino last week asking of phone number, first name, second and email address in the refrigerator process. And if they are asking like then the questions in the withdrawal time will be lesser.

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 28, 2024, 02:45:52 PM

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And the people who do not want to complete their KYC did not have their documents submitted elsewhere, and would still not mandatorily submit the documents elsewhere in the future? We should not deceive ourselves, this issue of I-do-not-want-to-do-KYC is so outrageous and the reason they often give is a fish-brain kind of excuse. Most of these guys are worth so little financially, to say the least, so why is that so-called privacy? Fine, privacy is your right but people take it far when they are actually dealing with Public engagements. It is not Private for goodness' sake. Think of it, will casinos be busy sharing their data with the public or what? It amazes me if I must say.

I see no reason why i can choose to use a kyc gambling casino and when the time comes for them to demand for these information's then i begin to feels bad and disappointed, who should be at fault here, if one is truly the bearer of the account them giving all necessary information's shouldn't be a problem to gamblers, but many wouldn't come here to tell one or two reasons why they cant afford to give those information's because they know that they are trying to do some shady stuffs downward that is unclear to the public.

Before casinos were not asking for KYC at the registration process when joining the casino and when you win big and about to withdraw then they would come up and asked for KYC to withdraw the funds. But recently and probably because of the complains here and there newly launched casinos ask KYC at the beginning of the registration and in the withdrawal time there is no KYC again but only if there is any other documents that you have not submitted before. And I like this latest development because the stress and the anxiety to withdraw the money at the winning time as been reduced. Because when you want to withdraw the funds and KYC is asked, there is tension at that time.

Agbe I don't see any changes from what we used to have in the gambling industry because at some point whatever the new casinos are putting up as the rules are all copy of what we already know based on kyc and how casinos chasing the customers with it, and we have to be clear with something here which is the fact that most of the casino's that comes up with such KYC when players want to withdraw funds are either doing it for the amount in total winnings and intended withdrawals that is when the withdrawal amount is more than the maximum trenchold for none kyc casino at that point the casino have every regulatory right to demand for verification since the amount is huge and the casino is a centralized AML compliance.

The other one that ask for kyc for such are based on they shady practice and in attempt to unduly hold the funds of the gamblers and this type even when the gambler meet all the demands they will still fail to verify them since they are intentional and meant to scam the gamblers this are bad actor's and scammers in the market.

Its always been that included on the TOS if we do try to read it up on which most of those write ups are really just that almost the same to each other or simply like almost a clone with those terms on which you would really be able to see that they do have the rights on asking up some KYC. The main keypoints is something that you would really be needing up to find out or learn because KYC would usually be asked out on the time that you would really be able to commit out some violation or acting up shady with your activity on which the casino would really be having the rights on asking for some verification. Also, when you do able to hit up a particular amount threshold when it comes to winning amount specially or mostly these are been asked when hitting up some jackpots which its not shocking anymore.

Actually there's nothing to worry about KYC if you arent that hiding something. Somehow it would be understandable that people would really be always keen on sharing up their information
online on which we know that are the possible problems or risks that it could give.

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