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every casino platform once their customers to verify before the participate in their platform or deposit any font in their platform except it is the platform of Casino that have the mindset of scamming that we hide their kyc for their customers so it is good for a customer itself to ask for kyc before the person deposit any money in the platform of a casino website because if you have not done your kyc at the certain point a platform of casino might withheld  you not to withdraw, so basically I know that casino platform work according to their rules and regulations.
Even though you have done with the KYC verification, the casino has the right and its legal for them to ask their players to do KYC again.
So, do not think that after done with the KYC, your account has been whitelisted by the casino.
And the initial KYC is just a basic KYC, you will not be asked to submit source of income/proof of income, video calls, utility bills, etc.

Also, not all casinos that do not provide KYC features or refuse to accept KYC at the beginning are a bad casino. It could be just their marketing tricks to attract new customers.
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There's what you fail to understand.... They've got T/C's and that should be Thier modus operandi..yeahh? Anything outside that isn't accountable to them... There's no casino that'll hide Thier KYC preference and remind of it when you wanna withdraw... They won't just bother you or make it compulsory at the start,...but ofcourse that gives everyone the privilege to think of boycotting their rules, that's also exactly where the problem comes...

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every casino platform once their customers to verify before the participate in their platform or deposit any font in their platform except it is the platform of Casino that have the mindset of scamming that we hide their kyc for their customers so it is good for a customer itself to ask for kyc before the person deposit any money in the platform of a casino website because if you have not done your kyc at the certain point a platform of casino might withheld  you not to withdraw, so basically I know that casino platform work according to their rules and regulations.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
If you are preaching fairness, you might preach from now till eternity and nothing will happen and once the law of the land is backing them up, you have no say here. This is why we should be conversant with the happening around the business we do, and even if we can't read all the terms and conditions, we should endeavour to read the important parts that are crucial to our immediate dealings with the casinos. And as long as a casino is not preaching no-KYC, they have every right to ask you for the KYC completion at any time. It is we customers who should try to be up and doing and expect it at any time if we can't do it from the beginning.

No one will pretend that the KYC is not supposed to be done, and whether they ask for it in the beginning, middle or at the end of our plays and transactions, it does not matter. What matters is for us to make sure that we do it since that's the standard procedure while dealing with duly registered casinos. So, instead of preaching fairness, we should stop being too smart in our ways to be playing too relaxed with good casinos, such gamblers should be blamed and not the casinos when they eventually ask. Even if you are not sure of the casino, why not ask them directly if they will ask you for the KYC completion or not so that you know whether to leave or continue playing with them or find time to complete the KYC earlier instead of crying foul later?
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A proper discussion will result to any positive approach so don't hide anything and just be open to your partner about what you are doing.

As long as we do things well and without harming anyone it is better, and if we are aware that we are not doing anything wrong then there is no reason to forget anything about the partner, also if we start to see if a partner is not accompanying us in In good times and in bad times, the least we have to do to reward him is to give him his position in that sense, to tell him something so important, the casino is not a good activity, we cannot allow people to think that, it is something normal, it is fun and it is something that we should always consider doing healthily if we are mature in it, our partner must understand us, in my personal case my wife tells me to bet to see if we win something more.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.

We will need to understand their own side of view as well because all that matters here is just a business strategy and nothing more, the gambling platforms will prefer seeing that they allow gamblers have the first encounter with their platform and finds it easy to bet without having challenges in doing that, then to later request for kyc in which can be the only reason they can use to hold customers down to their platform for the sake of those that wont be able to provide the requirements for it.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
This do only happen with those scammy sites out there and pretty sure that once a certain person/gambler would really be able to experience this shit condition then it would really be spreading like wildfire
on where platforms/companies wouldnt really be liking that if they are really that running a legit business but if its a scam then it would be surely busted sooner or later. Yes, its written on the terms and conditions but we know that things that stated there could really be changed up and this is something that we should really be thinking into or something that we would really be aware.

In overall, you would really be able to avoid all of these possible experiences if you are really just that simply sticking with the current best and known in the market and dont tend to touch up new platforms
or into those who arent that much popular. Who would really be making up such consideration? I would definitely be sticking into those places on which you do saw that it do gives out that
kind of confidence and worry free.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
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I have discussed that with my girlfriend for example, from the beginning of our relationship I confronted her about my gambling habits truthfully, happily she was okay with it as she understood me, we gamble together now from time to time and I can say it is way more fun to gamble with someone you know.
I think you should know the person a lot to open up about these things in order to understand how that person thinks and how he sees things first. And it depends on people, you can't also blame anyone on how he thinks.

It's very nice that your girlfriend understands you in your activities, and even if she doesn't understand you, I think you should always maintain your position , because that's the only thing that makes us more affable, when I'm not talking about playing I say it, I don't really care who approves it and who doesn't, honestly that doesn't matter to me first because you spend it and second because it is with my money that I play, no one tells me, it takes 500usd to Spend Nobody in the casino, but things should always be like this, maybe people see gambling as a bad habit, but what does it matter ? What matters , what matters is that one as a person is happy, as long as one does not Generate bad things towards Others around us.



For sure people will understand if you didn't hide anything from her and try to tell those activities that you have done so she will not get surprised to see you participating on any of that activities. Then leave some statement that you are just enjoying yourself with those game you play and give a assurance there's nothing bad will happen to you while participating on those gambling activities. A proper discussion will result to any positive approach so don't hide anything and just be open to your partner about what you are doing.

Another case of a casino asking for KYC before you can withdraw: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494948.0;all

What's happening in casinos now? Bc.game no longer accepts Driver's licenses and Postal IDs as valid documents for KYC verification. It used to be okay; they accepted those before, but now they don't. The player who's complaining has been a long-time player of bc.game, but now that they've won a large sum of money, they're being asked for other documents like a passport for verification.
This is absolutely nothing to be surprised about, don't talk as if this is just starting now, things like this have been from a very long time, most casinos, especially the smaller ones won't hesitate to look for every means possible to frustrate any of their players who manages to win a fraction of what they have in previous times; lost to the casino back, it's no news that the management of some casinos are so damn greedy that all they wanna just see is people losing their money to them and they eat and grow fat.

Well if they make all things complicated to their players then I guess they will be out of the business soon as their players will not go back to them especially if they implement something that can make their life so hard for getting their funds. What they did is somehow not a good action or decision since for not accepting drivers license for sure there will be a lot of people will get disappointed with that and some may think that it seems like they don't want their players to withdraw their money on their casino.
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Another case of a casino asking for KYC before you can withdraw: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494948.0;all

What's happening in casinos now? Bc.game no longer accepts Driver's licenses and Postal IDs as valid documents for KYC verification. It used to be okay; they accepted those before, but now they don't. The player who's complaining has been a long-time player of bc.game, but now that they've won a large sum of money, they're being asked for other documents like a passport for verification.
This is absolutely nothing to be surprised about, don't talk as if this is just starting now, things like this have been from a very long time, most casinos, especially the smaller ones won't hesitate to look for every means possible to frustrate any of their players who manages to win a fraction of what they have in previous times; lost to the casino back, it's no news that the management of some casinos are so damn greedy that all they wanna just see is people losing their money to them and they eat and grow fat.

This is not peculiar to bc.game though, it's something is general with most casino, for some users, they can win and withdraw easily, that means they are in luck all round, but for others, they have to pass through such frustration from the casino before they get their money out, if actually the casino doesnt end up scamming the player off his or her hard winnings in the disguise that the user was not able to provide the exact personal document they(the casino) requested or asked for, very pathetic.

And I think to be on the safer side while dealing with all this online activities, I think it's best for people to have all this forms of documents ready for whenever any will be needed, that is, having the drivers license, the national ID card, the passport, and what ever type of documents casinos are likely to ask for, have them ready for times when they go crazy with kyc.
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It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
You wont really be having no doubts on the time that you would really be gonna dealing with those casinos which are known and really that been having that good reputation on which you would really be that
at least be that confident that you are on the right place. Whereas you wont really be able to make out assurance when you do deal up with new sites or unheard or unknown platforms on which you could really be having that kind of doubt or doesnt have that kind of confidence. This is why it would really be that better that you should really know on what you are doing on which it would really be that common sense that you will really be choosing up those sites or platforms on which does have that good feedback rather than into those new ones or hadnt been heard of.
Most time it is casino with KYC. For me it is not a problem, but lots of gamblers here don`t like it. But you are right - well known casinos rare has such problems.

It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
There are many cases regarding this with now we can't run from this as well because things are getting the worst day by day with the centralized casino can ask anytime about anything and if you are fail to provide this all surely you are going to be in trouble with your wins I already have membership of few casinos and mostly are doing things like these while members are having big wins as they are saying they need to provide this all to provides without these things now gaming is going to be ended for the peoples those are looking for the casinos which have no KYC rules.
Still they are not considering this as cheating because they are also having pressure about many things, and they want to stay in market with their value and all rules which are set by the authorities.
Yep, they have such opportunity and it can`t be called cheating due to the ToS. But when we see how casino uses it - it is about cheating.



It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
This is the pattern many casinos use to deceive their players and we should not be surprised about that. They will start it like KYC is never necessary to play bet on their casino but one would be surprised to see that KYC actually necessary when you want to make withdrawals. Sometimes when a Casino notices that a new player had a huge winning, they would they many attempt to ask for documents that would be very hard to get or submit by the user. Although not all casinos behaves like this but one need to be conscious on this kind it trick that is being exhibited by bad casinos.
Few weeks ago i`ve got interesting situation. I won big prize with the odd about 7.5 and was KYCed. I proved myself and as the result the casino just returned me my bet, because "they don`t sure that it wasn`t inside information".
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I have discussed that with my girlfriend for example, from the beginning of our relationship I confronted her about my gambling habits truthfully, happily she was okay with it as she understood me, we gamble together now from time to time and I can say it is way more fun to gamble with someone you know.
I think you should know the person a lot to open up about these things in order to understand how that person thinks and how he sees things first. And it depends on people, you can't also blame anyone on how he thinks.

It's very nice that your girlfriend understands you in your activities, and even if she doesn't understand you, I think you should always maintain your position , because that's the only thing that makes us more affable, when I'm not talking about playing I say it, I don't really care who approves it and who doesn't, honestly that doesn't matter to me first because you spend it and second because it is with my money that I play, no one tells me, it takes 500usd to Spend Nobody in the casino, but things should always be like this, maybe people see gambling as a bad habit, but what does it matter ? What matters , what matters is that one as a person is happy, as long as one does not Generate bad things towards Others around us.

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Another case of a casino asking for KYC before you can withdraw: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494948.0;all

What's happening in casinos now? Bc.game no longer accepts Driver's licenses and Postal IDs as valid documents for KYC verification. It used to be okay; they accepted those before, but now they don't. The player who's complaining has been a long-time player of bc.game, but now that they've won a large sum of money, they're being asked for other documents like a passport for verification.
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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
You are right that when they mentioned the KYC on their terms then there is no way not to provide a KYC document. But if they don't mention the KYC document but ask that to harras then I want to say it is nothing but scamming.
It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
This is the pattern many casinos use to deceive their players and we should not be surprised about that. They will start it like KYC is never necessary to play bet on their casino but one would be surprised to see that KYC actually necessary when you want to make withdrawals. Sometimes when a Casino notices that a new player had a huge winning, they would they many attempt to ask for documents that would be very hard to get or submit by the user. Although not all casinos behaves like this but one need to be conscious on this kind it trick that is being exhibited by bad casinos.
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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
You are right that when they mentioned the KYC on their terms then there is no way not to provide a KYC document. But if they don't mention the KYC document but ask that to harras then I want to say it is nothing but scamming.
It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
There are many cases regarding this with now we can't run from this as well because things are getting the worst day by day with the centralized casino can ask anytime about anything and if you are fail to provide this all surely you are going to be in trouble with your wins I already have membership of few casinos and mostly are doing things like these while members are having big wins as they are saying they need to provide this all to provides without these things now gaming is going to be ended for the peoples those are looking for the casinos which have no KYC rules.
Still they are not considering this as cheating because they are also having pressure about many things, and they want to stay in market with their value and all rules which are set by the authorities.
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You wont really be having no doubts on the time that you would really be gonna dealing with those casinos which are known and really that been having that good reputation on which you would really be that
at least be that confident that you are on the right place.

That's the secret, there is nowhere else to run, you just have to do things right in that sense, if we are in a casino that generates trust, we don't have to worry about waiting for them to ask us KYC when we withdraw, because This guy The casino knows very well that things will turn out well when it is done from the beginning, and also because we know it in advance , for Example a casino like Stake.com will not do something like that, it is a casino. that has a lot of trust, a unique and very high reputation, it is a casino that does not doubt anything about its clients, that you have to follow its regulations yes, but it is a casino that does not fail, the years have certified that, so here There are many casinos of this style in the forum, I really Recommend them.
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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
You are right that when they mentioned the KYC on their terms then there is no way not to provide a KYC document. But if they don't mention the KYC document but ask that to harras then I want to say it is nothing but scamming.
It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
You wont really be having no doubts on the time that you would really be gonna dealing with those casinos which are known and really that been having that good reputation on which you would really be that
at least be that confident that you are on the right place. Whereas you wont really be able to make out assurance when you do deal up with new sites or unheard or unknown platforms on which you could really be having that kind of doubt or doesnt have that kind of confidence. This is why it would really be that better that you should really know on what you are doing on which it would really be that common sense that you will really be choosing up those sites or platforms on which does have that good feedback rather than into those new ones or hadnt been heard of.
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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
You are right that when they mentioned the KYC on their terms then there is no way not to provide a KYC document. But if they don't mention the KYC document but ask that to harras then I want to say it is nothing but scamming.
It is so. But i`m sure that in any ToS you can find something like "the casino can KYC anybody when they have some distrust in his fair play". It is possible be far from the beginning, so it can be difficult to find, but when you want to withdraw your prize - you get such a text and point where you can read it. I think that we can`t call it scam, but it looks like cheating.
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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
You are right that when they mentioned the KYC on their terms then there is no way not to provide a KYC document. But if they don't mention the KYC document but ask that to harras then I want to say it is nothing but scamming.
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Casinos are going way too far with KYC. Some are now asking for video selfies, bank and employment information. They are also holding up withdrawals for months. Some of these players are innocent.

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I don`t see problem in it. When you agree with their ToS you have to do what they say, if it is in ToS. The same time it is really difficult to find casino with such points in ToS. If you don`t want it - you have to choose the casino without any kind of KYC.
But as for me the main problem that they use KYC when they don`t want to pay you money. I mostly was KYCed when began withdraw big win. And as the result it always was long process to get my money, at least about month.
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It has become a way for casinos to request full customer identification. However, the customers will think it is all just a plan by the casino to cheat them. Casinos should ask their customers to do KYC when they first register before depositing money.
Some casinos are doing this already (recommending their players to do KYC before playing) but it's still up to the gambler since there's always an option to do it later. Moreover, many of us think it's not necessary because you're not even certain if you can gain something when you already gamble your money on that particular casino. Thus, better to choose always a reputable site and take time to conduct a reviews of other gamblers so this way even you are asked to do KYC, less worries for the worse case to happen when you submit your information. But of course the risk is always there.

Yup that's right, most gamblers these days think that fulfilling the requirements of the casino such as doing KYC does not affect the results of their gambling, or simply they think that even though they register in the right way along with doing KYC as recommended by the casino but there are always some gamblers who do not care about this because of the assumption that there is no effect on the results of gambling or simply KYC does not make them succeed in winning at the end of the session which makes them think that fulfilling KYC requirements is just a waste of time.

Most gamblers come just to play and want to know the outcome of winning or losing right away but when they experience problems outside of winning or losing such as poor service issues that make them disappointed or even the casino does not process the following by not paying the winnings achieved by the gambler because they chose the casino carelessly then obviously there is a high probability of regret, and yes I agree with you that it is better to spend at least a little time looking for a casino that really has a pretty good reputation and is trusted by many gamblers because if many gamblers put positive comments on the casino then I think things are less likely to happen.



Yeah, the whole KYC thing can be a bit of a hassle, especially when you just want to get down to playing. But I get why casinos do it—they want to make sure everything's legit and prevent any shady stuff from going down.

Casinos are going way too far with KYC. Some are now asking for video selfies, bank and employment information. They are also holding up withdrawals for months. Some of these players are innocent.

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