Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 19. (Read 12686 times)

No current casino is synonymous with doing things under a KYC process that is not mandatory, for that reason centralized casinos are demanding with KYC, this is something that we do not like, because it ends privacy and anonymity, before in In 2017 there was no such problem, everything was legal while the requirement was almost not made, and the truth is that those who started with this requirement were the Exchanges, and that was something that we practically had to do, because I had a problem with a deposit for In order for them to provide support, they had to complete the KYC.

The casinos currently do not do that, everything is with verifications, and the worst thing is that the verifications because they are not done on time are reflected when making a withdrawal and take a long time to approve it, in most times It's like that.

Why you have waited or let them ask you 5x? 1x or 2x should be enough and totally have that kind of doubts already on the time that they do keep on asking it out. Its impossible that you wont really be able to notice that they've been already that shady.  Somewhat it is really that hard to prove out for them to be a scam if you cant really find any feedbacks or evidences towards them on which you cant really be able to
make out conclusions until it would really be happening into you. This do really happens mostly on new platforms which we cant be able to see any feedbacks and real time experiences into it.
This is why it is really just that too hard to be that always be updated or be able to know everything if there's nothing you could really be able to read up.

Yes, I have faced a similar problem myself. Therefore, it is correct to say that a casino deposit is just numbers on the screen. And only when you really withdraw money from the gambling platform can you consider yourself the one who really has it in his pocket. I had an unpleasant experience withdrawing money from PokerDom - this platform did not want to approve my verification for withdrawing prize money from a poker tournament. They requested different documents five times, after which they began to ignore me altogether.

Sure, your point really cuts to the heart of it. KYC, isn’t about casinos singling anyone out for special scrutiny. It’s just standard practice to keep things on the up and up, ensuring that the gaming environment is safe and legal for everyone involved. If the KYC process seems too much, it’s a reminder that participating in gambling is a choice. Not up for it? There’s always the option to step away or look into decentralized casinos, which might offer a different approach to privacy and security.
At the end of the day, it’s about finding a place where you’re comfortable with the rules of the game.

Well, of course, I still live in the real world and understand quite well what is happening. 
Therefore, of course, now this vision of dividing crypto payments into completely legal and anonymous and equally completely legal but personalized seems completely fantastic and is not feasible in the practice of casinos and exchanges, and banks too.  But I think that this question still faces humanity simply based on the very nature of man, who has the right to hide some of his personal data or views on life.  By the way, this is very relevant in various repressive political regimes, where it can be simply dangerous due to the possible consequences for human life itself. 
But no one can forbid a person to think as he considers correct and fair.  The element of anonymous payments is only a tiny part of this manifestation of freedom and respect for human rights.  And legislators will not be able to completely ignore such a request from society, no matter how hard they try in their actions to establish total control over the individual.  In any case, I believe that the issue of the anonymity of cryptocurrency payments will still be resolved positively.  But perhaps not very soon, maybe after 2 generations of the planet’s inhabitants.

We have to look for information on feedback from active gamblers at that casino and join the telegram group if available, we have to ask old members for withdrawal and KYC information and if they say there is no KYC obligation for withdrawals then we can join that casino, but make sure not to join a new casino because their rules can easily change without notice and the same thing will happen again.

I still stick to the top choices of popular casinos to avoid casino scams and unfair games, popular casinos remain consistent with the conditions and conditions that have been set, if they require KYC for acceptance then they have added that regulation to the regulatory point.

From what I read with you guys, I think you are still saying the same thing, and this is a norm with casinos these days. You can see casinos asking for the KYC completion before you start depositing your money, which I believe is the fairest now, just the same way you would see casinos that would allow you to deposit and start betting without asking you for the KYC. But what amazed some customers, or should I call it disgust them is that they might have been playing with the casinos for years before they suddenly asked them for the KYC completion. How off and inconvenient could that be?

This has made them relaxed for too long and might not immediately have the KYC documents in one piece at that time, which could also be a time of pressing withdrawal for some urgent needs. This can hurt truly, but regardless, it is still the fault of the customer in my opinion, one should not be too relaxed with what they will still do sooner or later. The casinos are still within their right to ask for such KYC completion, it's the customer who shouldn't have relaxed that much when they fully know they are betting with KYC casino. But it is off and annoying for a no-KYC casino to ask for KYC when a gambler is either good or wants to withdraw a sizable amount of money. I've read that they do it these days which is not so cool. And the worst part is that some people still take their side, saying it is because regulators are on their necks. Who cares!

Many have taken the gambling platforms for granted because they think they will have to have them subjected under their own taste and person interest and in so doing, thinking as well that they can equally go away with it when they fail to realized what's in there in their rules, all these are part of what has made them not to enjoy having the casinos request for their kyc because they don't have the necessary information's to provide and comply with, just as the casinos requested.

Do you not think your point is pointless/valueless? You are telling me to open a casino to a gambler? Is it possible for all the gamblers who are in opposition to the bad KYC policy? I think you should be aware of the misconduct of scammers (which is a gambling site.)

Well what you say would be something great, because for those who want to pay with fiduciary currency it is obvious that they have to know where it comes from and if it is from a bank then that too, but what casino could assume such responsibility? so that they make crypto anonymous, that would be the solution to everything, and with that many players could be very safe playing, as they should be, I think that an advantage that physical casinos have is that they do not start to worry about the life of the player , they only show the identification if it is warranted to enter and that's it, I think that now physical casinos are taking more advantages over online casinos only because of the KYC, and this is something that is noticeable by miles.

What casino could understand this? and implement it? It is somewhat difficult, but I think that in the future it could be done.

No. The casino will not be more trusted if KYC is mandatory. I only said gamblers have more choice to choose casino, even after KYC verification many times gamblers face problem in kyc mandatory casinos. When a casino is a top rated trusted casino I will be interested in doing kyc in that casino because I know where I am joining, yes it is true by doing that I am revealing my personal information to that casino. Many casinos promote that they are No Kyc casinos, but they write in their T&Cs that they reserve the right to ask for KYC verification at any time. And they take maximum advantage of these T&C. So here the reputation of the casino is the most important, so that you can be aware of any problems in the future.

You could really be able to spot it out i must say on which you could really be able to tell whether they are asking for some KYC. You could always read up their terms and conditions and find out whether
they would really be asking some KYC on withdrawal. If you have seen nothing but they do end up on asking some KYC before you can withdraw then thats a shady act on their part and this is something a platform
which you would really be needing to avoid because it is really not that fair or transparent on having that kind of terms because if you are a legit site then you would really be always getting in line
with those terms without any sudden change or additional terms.

Also, you could really be able to read or search up if ever there would really be some pending complaints or issues of a certain site on which it would really be that impossible that
you cant really be able to see when you do tend to seek or search online.

Of course, it's also very simple: if you know that there is a KYC, don't play in that casino. Just find out the terms and conditions of the casino we will enter first. Now, when you see that there is no kyc, you decide whether you will enter money to gamble or not.

It's just that there are casinos that, even without kyc, still require kyc in the end because the amount of money won in the casino is large because they first have a short investigation to see if it's from the game provider where you won a large amount of money. If you didn't have any problems with cheating or technical problems, then after that, if they didn't see anything, they would allow you to withdraw by simply giving them the KYC.

Do you mean to say that casino with mandatory KYC is more trusted than those casinos with no mandatory KYC? If you think so, I have to disagree because once players created an account in casinos where KYC is not mandatory but there is clear statement that the casino reserves the right to ask KYC at anytime or for special cases, means that players agreed with this terms already. Casinos asking KYC for big amount of withdrawal can be said as normal thing, although I dont like KYC but I can accept this situation. As long as the casino release the withdrawal once KYC is completed, there is nothing wrong with it.

I will repeat it once again, casinos dont ask for kyc just for fun, even though it wasnt a mandatory. Ok, there are times when security team randomly send kyc requests, when they have nothing to do, but they must show that they are working. % of such random cases is tiny. They are busy all the time. If gambler hasnt dont anything bad, there is nothing bad from passing kyc. After, they might be just curious who they are about to send money to. But in most cases there is always a strong reason to ask for kyc. With the amount of casinos today, not a single casino would ask for kyc for nothing and be endangered of losing a customer (maybe loyal).

Well, knowing all this, assuming that customers will have greater clarity in trust and security, do you think that some players can expect something from casinos? So what do we know or what can we expect, for example, traditional casinos are the first to They can do it, the competition has to fulfill it as well, I am sure that if a reliable casino takes the initiative, all the other casinos will follow, because that is how it works, there is no other way, things with the competition are like that, as long as yes There is something that will take them forward, they will do it, plus the most reliable casinos do not lose anything and have their customers and many are already fully registered with their KYC at high levels, I think that would be a great difficult requirement for nascent or relatively new casinos.

If it had been easy, i know many would have also established one gambling casino and operate their own rules which i believe could have even been wore than the ones we are seeing them complaining about, the problem with the people is that they don't put their self in such conditions that if they were the ones involved operating a casino, wouldn't they demand more than that or even do the worse, if we think we cant go by their rules, then the better we take a leave and find a more suitable platform and if none is found, we can as well go ahead in creating one and see how easy it is.

If you live in most developed countries you better learn this lesson very quick, as it'll end up expensive for you otherwise. There are some casinos that even try going to the lengths of wanting to identify the company that you work for which seems like a gross amount of excess data gathering. In fairness, you'll find lots of them have huge welcome bonuses and if you've capitalized off them, then it's a small price to pay for them to complete identity verification at the payout stage. Sometimes they might catch a few people breaking the terms and retain any winnings, but they should always return the original deposit if that is the case - to be fair. You'll see KYC plastered all over this forum, so should learn to expect it these days.

I completely agree with you, but unfortunately decentralized casinos do not provide the same features and are not of the same quality compared to central casinos. You know the lack of decentralization culture among the majority who come from the background of traditional fiat casino platforms.

There is no problem with the casino requesting verification procedures every time it is necessary. Even if the user has completed these procedures during registration, the platform may request that the verification process be repeated to match it with the first approved documents. On this basis, I find it normal for the platform to request a repeat of the verification procedures when the withdrawal amount is large. I think this increases the security feature on the platform, unless the casino’s goal is to disrupt withdrawals and not to perform a normal verification procedure.

The best solution to avoid any unexpected disruptions is to use reliable platforms that are sure of the large amount of liquidity they have.

Actually it is really just that simple as that for a particular gamble to do such thing on which they would really be just simply skip out if there would really be that outright asking of KYC documents on the time that they do register into a certain site. Although there are some sites now that asking for some lite KYC on which this is something that happens or asked out on Roobet on where asking some basic information and those KYC have that levels on which it would really be basing up on how much  you do deposit or possibly be able to withdrawal on which on the time that you would really be able to hit up such threshold then they would really be just that
basically asking out on whats recommended.

This is why on the time that you would really be having that kind of approach about KYC then there's so much options that we could really be able to take. Due to that tough or high competition
within this industry then you could really be having tons of options when choosing up on a platform. There are still places on which you could really be able to play without minding
that much about those KYC thing or simply you can play anonymously.