Cause of Covid Vaccine and it's Value - page 2.

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I am very happy that there are several corona vaccine that have been tested with satisfactory results, and now it has started
in production based on the information I get from articles on the internet.

Yes there are vaccines which already available and it's been discuss all over the internet.

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But the problem is that the corona vaccine is not guaranteed to be 100% safe, still needs to be studied again the impact this can have on humans.

That's the big thing, there's no 100% guarantee that those vaccines are effective and really cure this virus.

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And the price of the $ 40 vaccine is cheap for America and Europe countries, but for the Southeast Asian country where I live.

Such amount already can fed each family for whole day in third world countries.

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To pay for the vaccine with $ 40 is very expensive and expect the government to buy the vaccine and distribute it to the population for free.

Government needs to shoulder this amount for those who lives around poor nations, as they are just surviving from day to day
and unable to add this up for another expense.

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Quote from: Ehrakeziah on December 12, 2020, 06:02:48 AM

What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

The price of vaccine will probably become reasonable for those who can't afford it and I think the governments will provide it.

As the demand of this vaccine increase, I think there will be more suppliers in the market that will exist.

People who are experiencing poverty should rely on the government because the government's responsibility is to give them the vaccine for free or for a reasonable price that they can.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on December 14, 2020, 01:48:26 AM

The vaccine is not working properly now this is happening while following the safety rules. Because in this case the physical condition of many volunteers is getting worse during the trial. So keeping all the aspects in mind the trial has to be stopped for some time. Vaccines must be safe and effective to keep the public safe. Responsible governments are working to adhere to recognized scientific standards in the search for the Covid-19 vaccine. Although vaccines are not available people are struggling on their own.

I think the government needs to test the vaccine before giving it to the volunteers because it can have side effects. I am sure that the government will make sure that the vaccines will be safe to be used for people who get infected from the virus. Maybe there will be a new trial after this to make sure everything is okay before distribution. People will still survive until the vaccine is found and distribute to them, and there is nothing they can do in this waiting time.

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The vaccine is not working properly now this is happening while following the safety rules. Because in this case the physical condition of many volunteers is getting worse during the trial. So keeping all the aspects in mind the trial has to be stopped for some time. Vaccines must be safe and effective to keep the public safe. Responsible governments are working to adhere to recognized scientific standards in the search for the Covid-19 vaccine. Although vaccines are not available people are struggling on their own.

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I think only those from the middle to upper class can afford that vaccine. But those in the lower classes and among the poor in the poorest cannot afford it, unless the government buys and gives it to the people for free if they want the country to be covid free or even reduce the spread of the virus.

The government should or could be taking action on this part most specially on those on people who were on lower class and below since they can't afford to purchase it. I believe they have the funds allocated on helping them with this kind of pandemic. You can ask them or just wait for them to announce on extending their help.

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Quote from: danglongbtc on December 12, 2020, 01:36:27 PM

Even if it is fully ready, I won't take them for sure. In my country, we have already started vaccine trial. During the very first phase, patients had mental issues not being able to work on a full capacity. Later, it caused some other issues. Government has decided to provide vaccine to healthcare workers first and then social security like police. However, if you are not affected and as long as can be cured, you don't have absolute necessity of taking dose. We never know the consequences. Besides, we will have vaccine available for use for very cheap price. Even, we can get them free here as most of the vaccine are free which we have taken from our childhood including Polio, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, BCG, OPV and such 10 more.

right now, i believe the study regarding after effects is not yet sufficient. as many of these pharma companies are rushing their clinical trials to get approved, i wont be surprised if some of them have their cover up regarding the actual effect of this vaccine to the overall mental or health aspect of the person. of course, we will see the immediate effect but how about the long-term impact to the person? it is yet to be seen.
getting vaccine should be the choice of the person and not compulsory. it is your body, so you have the right not to accept the vaccine. but you should know the possible consequences.

Very well said.

In order to rush things up just to proudly says we have a vaccine that'll beat up COVID-19, they are always covering the truth that will just make everything worst. I've seen an article posted in Facebook says that one of the volunteers in taking the vaccine has been paralyzed for no reason at all. We don't need 99% working vaccines to sacrifice other lives to cure many. We need a 100% working vaccines to assures everyone of us that we're all gonna make it to the end, no matter how long it'll take.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2020, 12:25:21 PM

A lot of negative comments against the vaccine. Let's not forget the fact that all of these vaccines have undergone Phase III clinical trials, which involved many tens of thousands of people. None of the vaccines reported any serious side effects. Those who don't want to get vaccinated are free to do so. But I request those people not to spread unfounded rumors regarding the vaccine.

Those vaccines have already been put under trier before it went public and so I don't think there is any need for panic on this. It is a disrespect to the organization that carried out such experiment before it was brought to different places. The US is not looking back at the use of such vaccine and I think that will be useful to their economy very soon when the recovery will increase and jobs will be created too.

I have seen posts here claiming that the vaccine will cause infertility, similar to the rumors spread against the polio vaccine. A few years back, medical workers were attacked in Pakistan, after militants claimed that the polio vaccine is a weapon by the western nations to bring population control to Pakistan. Billions around the world have taken the polio vaccine, and none have reported this side effect. But unfortunately, it is quite easy to fool less intelligent and uneducated people.

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The price mentioned in the first post is for orders by western countries (the US, but it's about the same for the EU). In the case of my country, France, it will be totally free for people, like most mandatory and recommended vaccines.

There are various ways for the vaccines to be cheaper in poorer countries, that's what the Gates foundation is working on for example, also rich countries have put some money aside to subsidize it.

In my opinion if a country relies on people travelling (for tourism for example) then there is a big incentive to vaccinate as many people as possible to get your country "virus free" and restart the economy as normal, welcoming foreigners etc.

The Pfitzer/BioNTech vaccine is not really useable in developing countries though, with the requirement to be kept at -80°.

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Quote from: Ehrakeziah on December 12, 2020, 06:02:48 AM

To reduce the spread of the covid 19 virus, we need a vaccine, and now there are some vaccines ready to be released on the market this coming year 2021.
In my country there are some barangays/places to be vaccinated first. The question is, is it safe? What will be the effect on the person being injected?

The vaccines were created to cure people who are infected with covid-19 not prevent it tho, and it's true so many research companies have claimed they have a vaccine that works for people who are infected, but I don't think we should trust those vaccines, I remembered during the lock down period when covid-19 was still deadly no no vaccine in sight, a country in Africa called madagascar claimed to have a herbal drink that can cure or prevent covid-19, the president even advertised it the herbal drink on a live TV, soon after they began selling the herbs out to several countries and guess what the herbal remedy failed it didn't work as expected,so this should tell you that nothing is 100% sure yet.

Quote from: Ehrakeziah on December 12, 2020, 06:02:48 AM

What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

Now that it's still in the early stages, I believe the price of the vaccine will be really high, not sure if the lower class people can afford it, so it will be just the high and middle class people buying it once it's out.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2020, 12:25:21 PM

A lot of negative comments against the vaccine. Let's not forget the fact that all of these vaccines have undergone Phase III clinical trials, which involved many tens of thousands of people. None of the vaccines reported any serious side effects. Those who don't want to get vaccinated are free to do so. But I request those people not to spread unfounded rumors regarding the vaccine.

Yes, I think they are free whether they want to vaccinate or not, as long as unconfirmed rumors are not spread. the most important thing for now is how the impact is among the community. because it is true that in most areas the price of vaccines is not yet affordable. I just hope that the government creates a cross-subsidy program that will help ease the burden of high vaccine prices for the lower classes, so that prices can be more affordable for all people.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2020, 12:25:21 PM

A lot of negative comments against the vaccine. Let's not forget the fact that all of these vaccines have undergone Phase III clinical trials, which involved many tens of thousands of people. None of the vaccines reported any serious side effects. Those who don't want to get vaccinated are free to do so. But I request those people not to spread unfounded rumors regarding the vaccine.

Those vaccines have already been put under trier before it went public and so I don't think there is any need for panic on this. It is a disrespect to the organization that carried out such experiment before it was brought to different places. The US is not looking back at the use of such vaccine and I think that will be useful to their economy very soon when the recovery will increase and jobs will be created too.

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Quote from: danglongbtc on December 12, 2020, 01:36:27 PM

Even if it is fully ready, I won't take them for sure. In my country, we have already started vaccine trial. During the very first phase, patients had mental issues not being able to work on a full capacity. Later, it caused some other issues. Government has decided to provide vaccine to healthcare workers first and then social security like police. However, if you are not affected and as long as can be cured, you don't have absolute necessity of taking dose. We never know the consequences. Besides, we will have vaccine available for use for very cheap price. Even, we can get them free here as most of the vaccine are free which we have taken from our childhood including Polio, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, BCG, OPV and such 10 more.

Look I know why you think so but honestly if the doctors of my country and the health organization approves a particular vaccine and after such a long time and after so many trials then not trusting them is the worst possible thing right now. You have to trust the authorities and social media and news channels/articles are made only to gain popularity and brain wash innocent people.

I don't know what the fear is when you know there is no possible treatment for corona virus and injecting a vaccine is going to save your life. I know why people are afraid but I am not sure how to convince them because it took so long and if they don't trust the vaccine even now then no way you are ever going to trust it.

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When people are sick and afraid they will pay any price!!! And people are paying, this is nothing new... what is new here is the quantity! You can do the math alone, and numbers are pretty high, this is all business!
I don't believe in all this shit around! It's political, it's business... it's not like people are dying on the street, but for sure they made it look like that! And all this lock downs, measures, for what? A little more deaths than with flu every year (and after decades we still don't have vaccine for that)!?

I'm not sure is it true or not, but here they talk about some vaccines after which you can't drink 40 days (or something like that)! Well for sure I will not going to take a break from alcohol because of some stupid vaccine. But it's my stand!

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A lot of negative comments against the vaccine. Let's not forget the fact that all of these vaccines have undergone Phase III clinical trials, which involved many tens of thousands of people. None of the vaccines reported any serious side effects. Those who don't want to get vaccinated are free to do so. But I request those people not to spread unfounded rumors regarding the vaccine.

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Covid-19 is the most influential topic in this year and we are seeing it's destructive nature everyday. The vaccine is needed to save us from it with peace and it can't say easily that the vaccine will be effective in all sides for us and will vanish the virus successfully. The value of vaccine will be an untold thing to say if it works successfully. I don't think that its price will be huge or its demand will be huge that's why the price can be slightly high which can't be affordable for everyone. Because many people are struggling everyday to survive.

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I believe WHO will not certify it safe if they don't see it as one. However, every drug has its side effect which means the vaccines might not be suitable for some people that have certain health conditions and also since we have varying immunities across the globe with also varying resistance, I believe the same thing goes for the vaccine and that is the reason why it is very good that each countries also work toward looking for vaccines that can be localized for treatment and not wait until foreign countries look for one. Funds are being giving by international bodies for individuals and organization working toward finding vaccines or cure to this global pandemic and hopefully more vaccines will be available with time including the one developed in your country

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I believe that the $40 price is going to be a crushing point for lower class families. A family of 5 people and you're looking at $200 to get them all vaccinated. So for situations like that the government needs to provide some sort of assistance to aid them.

Then there is the validity and effectiveness of the vaccine. We cannot have a mass produced vaccine if it's going to increase everyone's fear and be ineffective.

Lastly, there needs to be a medical plan that needs to be implemented worldwide for future pandemics. There's always going to be one fucked up thing that will hit society and if we want to stand a chance against it, we need to plan now.

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We all want to live normally again and get rid of that fear of getting the virus. And I think the government will find a way to give their people the vaccine they need especially that it's the best way to get rid of the virus. In our country, the government is kinda depending on the availability of the vaccine, so I think they will be the ones who will spend on it because not everyone can pay for it. It's normal to have a fear of the possible effect of the vaccine once injected, that's why we can choose whether to take it or not. If you're scared of it, then you can choose not to get vaccinated.

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Quote from: Ehrakeziah on December 12, 2020, 06:02:48 AM

To reduce the spread of the covid 19 virus, we need a vaccine, and now there are some vaccines ready to be released on the market this coming year 2021.

In my country there are some barangays/places to be vaccinated first. The question is, is it safe? What will be the effect on the person being injected?

You can trace the fear of people to its possible effect. There are people interviewed who really do not want to get vaccinated out of fear. Even me, I have doubt on this vaccine after what happened to the Dengvaxia vaccine which caused the deaths of some children's here in our country.

People have no choice but to get vaccinated or they are always on risk of getting infected, get hospitalized and get intubated, they have to take what option they want to take, if they have the money and they can get hospitalized for CoVid because they want to vaccinated then go for that option.

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Quote from: Ehrakeziah on December 12, 2020, 06:02:48 AM

What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

To be frankly honest, Government should shoulder all the fees to buy all of its citizen to have a vaccine, because in the first place, they should have a budget regarding about this kind of situation we are in right now.

I assume that you're from the Philippines as well. I think they are giving the vaccine for free first to the 4Ps beneficiary to be vaccinated. However, you can't hide the fact that people are really afraid of this vaccine because it might have an effect or whatsoever that can cause death.

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