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>> I stand corrected. I couldn't get over 900K on a 980
My junior gtx750 can do 890khs lyra with sp_'s #50 heavily oc'ed to 1480/1575 cpu/mem
you're doing something wrong... the 980 should do around 1.5MH/s (at least with my version... not following much what is happening here)
Joblo have you changed the intensity setting for the 980?  The default might be too low for the 980.
legendary
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>> I stand corrected. I couldn't get over 900K on a 980
My junior gtx750 can do 890khs lyra with sp_'s #50 heavily oc'ed to 1480/1575 cpu/mem
you're doing something wrong... the 980 should do around 1.5MH/s (at least with my version... not following much what is happening here)
legendary
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>> I stand corrected. I couldn't get over 900K on a 980
My junior gtx750 can do 890khs lyra with sp_'s #50 heavily oc'ed to 1480/1575 cpu/mem

So your OCed 750 with 1 GB of RAM, my non-OCed 980 with 4 GB, and an i7-4790k can all
hash about the same, but with significantly different TDP profiles. It looks like the 750 has
the best TDP.

I am disappointed with the performance on the 980. I'll have to do some wider testing to see
if any other algos show this non-linearity among different cards.  It will complicate profit
switching if the card model has to be taken into account. I had wrongly assumed that all
algos would scale linearly and just used the 750ti as a reference.
legendary
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>> I stand corrected. I couldn't get over 900K on a 980
My junior gtx750 can do 890khs lyra with sp_'s #50 heavily oc'ed to 1480/1575 cpu/mem
legendary
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Looks like AMD gpus are best on lyra2re, see my miner in the signature (r9 290 almost 1.8 Mh/s and about 200W).

By extrapolation from the 750ti the 970 could match that @ 145 watts and a 980 2.2 Mh/s @ 155 watts,


It doesn't work like that - 750Ti tends to be the absolute best of the three in hash/watt...

And Lyra2RE depends heavily on ram speed: just think that r9 290 and 290x are virtually equivalent, regardless 10% more shaders. Kinda like scrypt.
Thus, I don't think the 980 can do 2.2 Mh/s, probably half that.

I stand corrected. I couldn't get over 900K on a 980.

hero member
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@CapnBDL you run 2 instances to divide hashrate between two pools, in case one goes down other gets full 100% other wise both get 50-50%. It was a simple way around lack of failover since cudaminer days.
I get 5700 khash/s on qubit w/o any switches try that, but you have to have CPU idle for that or reduce 200 khash/s for each core used. I tried upto 2 cores.
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Ok...have quibit intensity set to 19.3. Close enough for the 750Ti?
hero member
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I don't think the release done for nVidia cards has such bug...it's working for me. Vid ram is within ranges. Just switched me to Quibit....plain jane settings get 5200+. Now I need a setting for 750Ti mining quibit. Help?

right now it is .....-r 3 -R 10 -a qubit

gimme a i
gimme a g
gimme a........

What's that spell....hell, who knows    Grin

serious..750Ti switches for quibit plz? ..Now it switched me back to quark. Those setting I already have entered.

edit; Just read the rest of your comment. Why would you want to run more than one instance? I don't understand? Wouldn't that saturate any cards mem?

edit2; Tried it! Duh...of course the mem gets saturated. So, I ask again...why would you want to do that?
legendary
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is the miner affected by the nvida "bug"(they said that they have done it intentionally, but let's call it a bug) when i open more than 1 instance, and as a result i saturate all the ram available?
legendary
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Is that the latency problem all over again?

Lyra2RE does random accesses: some are even based on the previous results.
So it is a mix of latency and bandwidth but I'd say more latency than anything else.
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Is that the latency problem all over again?
legendary
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The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

Looks like AMD gpus are best on lyra2re, see my miner in the signature (r9 290 almost 1.8 Mh/s and about 200W).

By extrapolation from the 750ti the 970 could match that @ 145 watts and a 980 2.2 Mh/s @ 155 watts,


It doesn't work like that - 750Ti tends to be the absolute best of the three in hash/watt...

And Lyra2RE depends heavily on ram speed: just think that r9 290 and 290x are virtually equivalent, regardless 10% more shaders. Kinda like scrypt.
Thus, I don't think the 980 can do 2.2 Mh/s, probably half that.
legendary
Activity: 1470
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The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

Looks like AMD gpus are best on lyra2re, see my miner in the signature (r9 290 almost 1.8 Mh/s and about 200W).

By extrapolation from the 750ti the 970 could match that @ 145 watts and a 980 2.2 Mh/s @ 155 watts,
legendary
Activity: 2716
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Black Belt Developer

The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

Looks like AMD gpus are best on lyra2re, see my miner in the signature (r9 290 almost 1.8 Mh/s and about 200W).
legendary
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So I'm actually curious why everyone talks about the TDP slider all the time. Why would it matter what the TDP slider is set at? It should just be set at the highest value just like with AMD cards. It wont use more power unless you turn up the mhz and even then it'll eventually crash unless you add more voltage. It just seems like a unnecessary variable as the TDP slider doesn't really increase efficiency if you decrease it as it will decrease your clockrates too, unless I'm mistaken.

What's the point of using the TDP slider over clocks/overvolts? Is it just my card that has a unlocked voltage modifier?


A extra six pin power connector doesn't necessarily mean it uses more power either. It can have a power connector and have lower core voltage, but uses the connector for cleaner power delivery instead of trying to pull everything through the bus. If it has a higher TDP, that also means it has higher core voltage, although it's not a absolute unit of measurement as each unit can be different (between bioses and versions).

To my understanding the TDP slider or power target limit is a hardcap on the maximum power the card uses. That is not necessarily translate into watt used by the card. The fans, the memory and the core itself all have to be collectively under the limit. If the limite is reached, you can't increase the clock speeds with overclocking because there's no power to do so. That's why you could reach higher core overclocks if you downclocked the memory in Kepler cards (probably applies to Maxwell as well) because then the memory used less and of course the fans can't get limited in power.

Yeah, so there really is no reason to manually limit the TDP or turn it down with the power slider compared to adjusting clocks and voltage?


The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

Multipool profit %s (like on nicehash) are not always representative of how much you can make by mining with a certain algo compared to another one. They don't always keep up with miner development or certain generations of cards. For a long time Nicehash was completely inaccurate when it came to that. Obviously it doesn't include power usage either, which can be extremely misleading.
legendary
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NiceHash/WestHash allows you to set the hashrate factors, I believe; I love that, since mine are different as well.

Is that on the multi-algo port? That only works with the opencl miners, not sure if it's only some of them.
ccminer certainly can't handle algo switching.  I don't know if the custom factors can be used on the individual
algo ports, which would allow a simple round robin bat file to do profit switching. If Miner Control can manage
algo switching with ccminer (and it seems it can) it can probably handle custom price normalization as well.
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---

The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

NiceHash/WestHash allows you to set the hashrate factors, I believe; I love that, since mine are different as well.

im sure you are correct ...

but i have yet to figure out how on westhash ...

#crysx
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---

The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.

NiceHash/WestHash allows you to set the hashrate factors, I believe; I love that, since mine are different as well.

was running on yaamp as a test a little bit ago ...

only 3 threads ( 3 x cores ) actively test mining on this machine ( the only windows machine ) ...

- windows vista ultimate x64 ( yup - i know i - know ) ...
- quad core amd phenom ii 965 running 3.4GHz
- tpruvot cpuminer-multi-mingw64 1.0.9

cpuminer-multi-mingw64 -a lyra2 -u 1CTiNJyoUmbdMRACtteRWXhGqtSETYd6Vd -p x -o stratum+tcp://yaamp.com:4433 -b 0.0.0.0:4048 -t 3

runs quite well for a cpu miner ...

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[2015-05-15 14:13:36] accepted: 365/367 (99.46%), 294.01 khash/s yay!!!
[2015-05-15 14:13:59] thread 0: 2240475 hashes, 96.67 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:13:59] accepted: 366/368 (99.46%), 293.20 khash/s yay!!!
[2015-05-15 14:14:01] thread 2: 4887637 hashes, 97.77 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:01] accepted: 367/369 (99.46%), 292.67 khash/s yay!!!
[2015-05-15 14:14:12] thread 1: 5893801 hashes, 97.14 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:15] yaamp.com:4433 sent lyra2 block 60339
[2015-05-15 14:14:15] thread 0: 1525634 hashes, 96.15 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:15] thread 1: 253782 hashes, 91.62 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:15] thread 2: 1294897 hashes, 96.27 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:52] thread 0: 3681011 hashes, 97.38 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:14:53] accepted: 368/370 (99.46%), 285.28 khash/s yay!!!
[2015-05-15 14:15:01] thread 1: 4481330 hashes, 96.29 khash/s
[2015-05-15 14:15:01] accepted: 369/371 (99.46%), 289.95 khash/s yay!!!

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if cpu can do this - how much more can be optimized with gpu? ...

#crysx
legendary
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The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.

I think yaamp normalises prices based on AMD HW, as do most profit switching multipools. Some algos are way
off compared to ccminer.
hero member
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If you want to mine lyra2 checkout cpuminer-multi. I get higher hash rates on my i7-4790 than a 750ti.

what hashrate do you get? ...

#crysx

Default 7 threads @ 115 Kh/s each on i7-4790k  @ 4.3 GHz. Best performing cpuminer/algo combination
I've found and the only one that beats a 750ti, or even comes close. minerd/x11 is a very distant second
at 8 x 85 Kh/s (minerd defaults to 8 threads). I think lyra2 is a very challenging algo for GPUs.

Edit: I should qualify this by saying it's the best free cpuminer/algo combination. I have no knowledge
of any private cpu miners.

thats pretty good for cpu ... so i must agree that it does perform quite well ...

but that cpu ( from memory - too lazy to check ) also chews almost 90W of power ...

the gigabyte 750ti oc lp max is about 40-60W and does a little over 660KH on lyra2 with spmod ...

cost wise - at around 3 x the price of one of those cards ( basing it on australian dollars - but should be approx worldwide ratios ) - the hashrate doesnt play well ...

but then again - thats if you are ONLY mining ( like we are ) ...

still - quite impressive for a cpu hashrate ...

can you still use your computer when all 4 cores are at full pace? ... or does it slow down to being almost unusable? ...

btw - where is the link for the software? ... github link? ... miner settings that you use also please? ...

tanx ...

#crysx

You're right about the power but if you really really want to mine lyra2 I think CPU is the way to go.
If you're GPU mining, lyra2 can't compete with any of the other algos. You can also CPU mine lyra2 alongside
GPU mining a more profitable algo. CPU mining with n threads can affect ccminer so I usually use
n-1, which just happens to be the default. Other CPU intensive applications like compiling are obviously not
advised but casual desktop use is still reasonably responsive.

I occasionally fire it up if lyra2 is paying unusually well but not lately with the way quark is performing. What's
with the order prices on nicehash? What could they be mining at those prices? I've seen that kind of activity on
nicehash prior to a coin launch but it usually only lasts a coule of days but I haven't seen any new quark coins
in a long time. And this has been going on for over a month but accelerated in the last couple of days. Even
yaamp rentals are paying higher than any of the coins in their pool.

Edit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cpuminer-multi-v135-linux-windows-vstudiomingw64-gpl-open-source-841401

The whole reason I asked about Lyra is because I'm using Miner Control to help keep my connection to yaamp. It works great, took me some time to get it to run, but does, according to price, switch to that algo.
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