Just gonna comment on the dumb ass idea one must open source their shit to prove they are not violating GPL...
Bensam - people are not guilty until proven innocent... yes, this applies to the people you don't like, too. Furthermore, reverse engineering shows tell-tale signs of this kind of shit - and yes, large companies have been caught doing it. Kindly shove it up your ass.
Oh yeah? And no one ever copies GPL coding here. That's why I find it hilarious. People have asked exactly the same thing of SP numerous times before whenever he releases a private miner and they also don't like the answer. Double standards are great.
Like I said, everyone copies everyone elses work, it's all a game of how well you hide it. In this case no one gives a shit most of the time unless you get a lot of attention... Like Claymore and SP. SP also could simply just lie and work on better encryption for his miners and once again we would be in the 'innocent until proven guilty' spectrum, right? Or is it whenever SP makes a new miner we simply assume it's based on GPL code? No one would ever do that in this thread. Why don't you get angry at them?
It's weird when you try to adhere to principles, but only when it suits your own agenda. XD
Actually, you probably have never read the GPL, or any derivative of it - I would bet money. Because if you had, you would know that it does not mean that random person X can say that they know Y software exists in a modified form, and demand the source... but they must have a binary copy of it to have that right. And as such... your argument about "private miners" is about as full of shit as you are.
Actually I did and took part in conversations about it roughly a year ago in this very thread, but you're assuming things like always. And you just lost that money.
You seem to assume GPL licensing is some ruleset. This is the crypto frontier. No one gives two shits about a fancy rule book that's not enforced until it works in their favor, and then it's done by berating someone. As I mentioned and will also mention again, everyone copies everyone else here in various forms. It's not always verbatim, but it does indeed happen. It all comes down to how well you hide it. If it's just swapping variables and rewriting code to make it look slightly different, encrypting the contents and making them hard to read, or taking the idea and using it to write your own code. There are more ways to do that then one can shake a stick at. It's great you assume others have no understanding of coding.
Misconstruing what I'm saying as always. In this case it's fun to bag on someone who is essentially your business rival because it's good for your business, just the same as Chryo is doing in here. If we didn't have SP, other people would be either selling similar miners to big farms for a lot of cash in back rooms (like yourself).
SP is no Claymore and it would be great if he wrote everything from the ground up and appeased someone like yourself who really doesn't care about things till it suits your purpose, but he's just one guy writing code on a whim as a second job. As a miner, I'll damn well take that and fuck anyone who says otherwise (especially when ulterior motives move in).
It's closer to 40% slower or a 1070 is 40% faster. That's based off raw CUDA cores. Just off the top, this holds true in Skunk. A 1060 3GB is producing 19 while top results for a 1070 are 32. Which is almost exactly 40% increase. That's from Yiimp. Half as fast was a typo, I meant 50% (but it's closer to 40%).
19 x 1.5 is 28.5. The 40% slower is straight from the difference in cuda cores.
1080/ti both have issues with algos due to their GDDR5X memory. Even algos that they work 'properly' in they don't always get the full speed. You can look at Epsylons thread for more information on that. I had to hammer out a couple really big posts about it and rather not rehash that here. Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs. They're practically worthless in Dagger. For instance a 1080ti should routinely be 85% faster then a 1070 for the amount of CUDA cores it has, but rarely is and often is closer to 50% depending on the algo.
Best buy still is a 1070, even at the slightly higher prices they have currently.
1) Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41
21*1.5 = 31.5
21*2 =42
Straight forward.
2) 1080/ti have issues only with dagger-hashimoto algo. I don't know other. Other algos are like skunk.
3) Your maths is completely wrong
1060 - 115W 21Mh = 5.5W/Mh
1080 - 165W 41Mh = 4W/Mh
Of course you can tweak both of them gaining more or less, but anyway 1080 is superior in w/MH
4) 1080/ti are practically worthless only in 1 algo, but thanks to Claymore they are good in Dual mining leaving 1060/1070 far behind (of course it depends on second coins price). Most other algos don't need fast memory.
So right for the moment 1080 is the best choice because they cost only ~20-25% more than 1070.
Yup, you literally just rewrote what I just wrote for point one after not reading my post.
I don't care about watts a mh. That hasn't mattered for quite some time. A extra 100 watts of power for me at $.1 a KWH is $.24 a day. It's not anywhere closer to that. A extra 10 watts is $.024. Furthermore I never discussed efficiency, I was talking about hash a dollar. Not watts a hash.
1080/ti MOST DEFINITELY have issues with other algos other then dagger. Like I said a 1080ti wont achieve +85% performance over a 1070, most of the time it is +50%. Go look at Epsylons thread for discussion of this or look at Yiimp. I'm not going to spoonfeed you the information, you are definitely wrong.
GDDR5X is faster then GDDR5. Speed isn't the problem with those cards.
Actually, you probably have never read the GPL, or any derivative of it - I would bet money. Because if you had, you would know that it does not mean that random person X can say that they know Y software exists in a modified form, and demand the source... but they must have a binary copy of it to have that right. And as such... your argument about "private miners" is about as full of shit as you are.
This is true. But not only is sp_ not giving source to those he gives his binaries to (something required by the GPL), he's also complaining that people are giving his binaries to others (also something that the GPL allows).
The GPL fully allows you to sell your software to whoever will pay for it. But, upon request, you must give the source, and you cannot restrict others from giving the binary or source away. He claims his binaries are "betas" and don't fall under the GPL, but there is no such distinction in the GPL's terms.
Regarding whether or not his ccminer versions fall under the GPL, they do, by his own admission (ie, the text in the miner specifically says it's based on other miners versions that are GPL'd). Even if 99.9% of the code was written by sp_, the small bit that isn't would still require following the terms of the GPL
Yes he has to give you the source code, no that doesn't allow you to redistribute it or resell it. You're welcome to quote me that part of the GPL. You can very much have a close source and private miner with source code that's available without allowing people to freely redistribute or resell the work. Your purchase doesn't extend beyond you.
All devs that does nothing or mod to public, please get out of this thread.
You want to argue with SP about GPL, go and sue, not here, please get out of here.
Don't mess in this thread.
All sockpuppet accounts with no history controlled by the same couple people (in an obvious attempt to pretend many others support them), please get out of here.
Let's see if it works for me.
Sucks when people make sense and supporting other. You honestly think I would make a alt account or anyone here who is arguing with you would in order to fuck with you? Oh I see, you think you just get people banned therefore they attack you on alt accounts. I'm not petty and small like Chryo.
Careful guys, Wolf0 loses a argument to you he'll cry to the admin who sucks his dick to ban you. That is literally the epitome of a sore loser. And no, that statement has nothing to do with admins on BCT.