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legendary
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No, no they aren't always there. There aren't Decreds laying around. It's getting lucky once in a blue moon. That's why it's such a big deal when someone exposes one of those coins, because there aren't that many of them and when one of them craps out, you're subpar earnings for quite awhile. AMD has niches as well in addition to much more solid everyday earnings.

I like how you have no idea how many 'niche coins' there are, but you're sure AMD has 'less of them'.

Emission rate isn't everything. I thought you would've learned better Amph padawan. If a coin emits $10,000 a day and has enough hash on it that it's completely saturated (like SIA), it doesn't matter. Emission is also heavily dependent on volume. If a coin is value really highly, but doesn't have buy orders to back it up, it doesn't matter.

Yes, you literally gave the definition of a 'lottery'. Mining random coins hoping one of them ends up big is literally gambling.

yes they are always there, you can find new shit coin each day, some are worthless other not, and yes i have checked all the coins that have a value on all the exchange, like cryptopia and coinexchange etc plus the ann thread each day

i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

emission rate is everything to know if the coins is worth mining, what sia have to do with my argument, stop talking about big coins that can be dual mined, they have zero value for me and worse profit than what i'm mining now, much worse than what you call "lottrery coin"

also for emission rate i mean emission rate in bitcoin you know not in the amount of coins itself, if a coins have 2 btc emission rate, it's clear that it have the buyers that back it up, if there is no volume it has not that emission rate of course....

btw mining all the shitcoin, isn't gambling, because it's assured at 100% that some of them will have a value, and the value of few of them will be so huge, that even if the other are worth zero it doesn't matter

You aren't the only one that sorts coinmarketcap by Volume or looks at the most traded coins on exchanges (all of which relate to volume). That's not hard to do.

Emission rate just talks about how many coins per day are put out. That doesn't include market price, market volume (buy/sell walls), or difficulty. No 'emission' isn't everything. SIA is a coin that has a high emission rate and large trade volume, but hashrate is very high so it doesn't matter.

Emission != Volume. I've talked about volume many, many times in this thread. If you're talking about emission that's different from volume.

Instamining IS NOT the same as mining a shitcoin. Very different things. You still have to compete for coins with difficulty. Instamining is trying to get around that by getting in first. There are plenty of coins that never gain any sort of value and there are plenty of people who randomly mine them just like you.

there is no instamining anymore, the only thing that you can do now, is earlymining, which mean mining a coin with no exchange and wait for the pump(or do private trading which are always profitable), which happen at least on one of these coin that you mine

talking about emission rate make sense only if there is volume of course, that was implied in my post, if there are no buyers, the coins is dead
legendary
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In the "readme" file of the ccminer there is a hint that some of these coins have a VERY NOTABLE nVidia advantage over competing AMD (OpenCL Only) implementations.

Can anyone tell me some coins or algos that are better to mine with NVidia than AMD? THX!

README FILE DATES TO 2014--

The line that you are quoting may well have been written by CBuchner.  Some of the same coins that were efficiently mined by nVidia cards  (X11, Quark, Qubit, etc) are now even more efficiently mined by ASICS.         --scryptr

EDIT:  If you use Claymore's Dual Miner with nVidia cards, the inherint compute capabiity of nVidia cards shines.  The secondary coin harvest can be doubled or more with the proper "-dcri" setting.  This is possible with less loss of hashing power for the primary coin than with AMD cards.  Claymore's most recent release (v9.0) uses ASM kernels to enhance the capabilities of AMD cards.

Cards based on nVidia architecture have built-in low-energy ompute power. CUDA assembly code is the key to unlocking it.       --scryptr
sr. member
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In the "readme" file of the ccminer there is a hint that some of these coins have a VERY NOTABLE nVidia advantage over competing AMD (OpenCL Only) implementations.

Can anyone tell me some coins or algos that are better to mine with NVidia than AMD? THX!
legendary
Activity: 1764
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No, no they aren't always there. There aren't Decreds laying around. It's getting lucky once in a blue moon. That's why it's such a big deal when someone exposes one of those coins, because there aren't that many of them and when one of them craps out, you're subpar earnings for quite awhile. AMD has niches as well in addition to much more solid everyday earnings.

I like how you have no idea how many 'niche coins' there are, but you're sure AMD has 'less of them'.

Emission rate isn't everything. I thought you would've learned better Amph padawan. If a coin emits $10,000 a day and has enough hash on it that it's completely saturated (like SIA), it doesn't matter. Emission is also heavily dependent on volume. If a coin is value really highly, but doesn't have buy orders to back it up, it doesn't matter.

Yes, you literally gave the definition of a 'lottery'. Mining random coins hoping one of them ends up big is literally gambling.

yes they are always there, you can find new shit coin each day, some are worthless other not, and yes i have checked all the coins that have a value on all the exchange, like cryptopia and coinexchange etc plus the ann thread each day

i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

emission rate is everything to know if the coins is worth mining, what sia have to do with my argument, stop talking about big coins that can be dual mined, they have zero value for me and worse profit than what i'm mining now, much worse than what you call "lottrery coin"

also for emission rate i mean emission rate in bitcoin you know not in the amount of coins itself, if a coins have 2 btc emission rate, it's clear that it have the buyers that back it up, if there is no volume it has not that emission rate of course....

btw mining all the shitcoin, isn't gambling, because it's assured at 100% that some of them will have a value, and the value of few of them will be so huge, that even if the other are worth zero it doesn't matter

You aren't the only one that sorts coinmarketcap by Volume or looks at the most traded coins on exchanges (all of which relate to volume). That's not hard to do.

Emission rate just talks about how many coins per day are put out. That doesn't include market price, market volume (buy/sell walls), or difficulty. No 'emission' isn't everything. SIA is a coin that has a high emission rate and large trade volume, but hashrate is very high so it doesn't matter.

Emission != Volume. I've talked about volume many, many times in this thread. If you're talking about emission that's different from volume.

Instamining IS NOT the same as mining a shitcoin. Very different things. You still have to compete for coins with difficulty. Instamining is trying to get around that by getting in first. There are plenty of coins that never gain any sort of value and there are plenty of people who randomly mine them just like you.

i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.

Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.

Yes and no. 5XX series is just a rebranding, nothing to worry about.
legendary
Activity: 1049
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i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia
Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.
Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.
i'm talking about nice coins here, what are those coins? the last very profitable coins i found were pascalite, honey and nexus, all better to mine with nvidia
on cryptopia all the coins have the same or less profit than ZEC

Music coin.. small dagger buffer. Perhaps profitable in the old cards. 750ti/970. Can anyone verify this?

Similar to ETH in the early days, getting about 10-11mh with a slight memory overclock

1050 non ti gets around 13

Will dig up my 970 and try it later, but I have a feeling it will be around 25 mh
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
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Team Black developer
sp_ ,will you create wildkeccak mod for boolberry?

yes. But bolberry has a big buffer with random memory access, so not sure how much I can gain.
sr. member
Activity: 463
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sp_ ,will you create wildkeccak mod for boolberry?
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia
Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.
Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.
i'm talking about nice coins here, what are those coins? the last very profitable coins i found were pascalite, honey and nexus, all better to mine with nvidia
on cryptopia all the coins have the same or less profit than ZEC

Music coin.. small dagger buffer. Perhaps profitable in the old cards. 750ti/970. Can anyone verify this?
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.

Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.

i'm talking about niche coins here, what are those coins? the last very profitable coins i found were pascalite, honey and nexus, all better to mine with nvidia

on cryptopia all the coins have the same or less profit than ZEC
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
good then I will sell my cards at a premium.

Haha, nice to have you here Phil. How much did you pay for your nvidia cards w/o taxes? Just to show to bensam?

There are miners who went long on this shit. Get ready for that margin call.

I ordered 2 cards  3 cards

1080 zotac mini on eBay --from newegg  so full warranty new.  card was 489  I get discounts from eBay I had 265 in ebucks plus 1% and 1% that 265 is good for 30 days on eBay it was earn over the last 90 days.   the net on this card was around 260

1080 ti zotac fe from superbiiz 720 2 % discount 706

1080 ti aorus  720 + 60 tax = 780    6 months to pay it.

so out of pocket now = 1744   of which  780 I can pay in 180 days.  and due to correct timing on my cc the 966 I can pay in 45 days


cards are earning   0.01 btc per day.

  in 45 days  i would have .45 btc   minus very little power cost.

mind you  I cashed enough btc at 1116 to have the money in the bank to pay for these cards.

Now I spot play. Pay lots of attention to ratios of gear and cash and coins.

buying these 3 cards makes sense for me.  I had mobos ready and empty as I sold every rx 470 4gb and 8gb  plus I sold all my rx 480 4gb cards.

 down to 18 rx 480 8gb cards in 8 mobos
1 mobo with the nvidia
2 more empty mobos they won't be filled till Sept

I have to prep for summer power rates and summer heat.
Nvidia cards will let me mine in house in the summer at 20 cents a watt and turn profit. Grin

I will me selling my amd and moving some to the solar array next month.
I really have a lot to learn on nvidia but I am happy with the first two the third comes on sat in about 12 hours.
legendary
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good then I will sell my cards at a premium.

Haha, nice to have you here Phil. How much did you pay for your nvidia cards w/o taxes? Just to show to bensam?

There are miners who went long on this shit. Get ready for that margin call.
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.

Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.

good then I will sell my cards at a premium.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

Amph, you are wrong here, some amd coins exist.

Also, first wave of gpu sellout is about to begin.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
No, no they aren't always there. There aren't Decreds laying around. It's getting lucky once in a blue moon. That's why it's such a big deal when someone exposes one of those coins, because there aren't that many of them and when one of them craps out, you're subpar earnings for quite awhile. AMD has niches as well in addition to much more solid everyday earnings.

I like how you have no idea how many 'niche coins' there are, but you're sure AMD has 'less of them'.

Emission rate isn't everything. I thought you would've learned better Amph padawan. If a coin emits $10,000 a day and has enough hash on it that it's completely saturated (like SIA), it doesn't matter. Emission is also heavily dependent on volume. If a coin is value really highly, but doesn't have buy orders to back it up, it doesn't matter.

Yes, you literally gave the definition of a 'lottery'. Mining random coins hoping one of them ends up big is literally gambling.

yes they are always there, you can find new shit coin each day, some are worthless other not, and yes i have checked all the coins that have a value on all the exchange, like cryptopia and coinexchange etc plus the ann thread each day

i'm prefectly aware of all the coins in existance that have still some value, and only zero is pro amd for now(because no nvidia miner...), all the other are better to mine with nvidia

emission rate is everything to know if the coins is worth mining, what sia have to do with my argument, stop talking about big coins that can be dual mined, they have zero value for me and worse profit than what i'm mining now, much worse than what you call "lottrery coin"

also for emission rate i mean emission rate in bitcoin you know not in the amount of coins itself, if a coins have 2 btc emission rate, it's clear that it have the buyers that back it up, if there is no volume it has not that emission rate of course....

btw mining all the shitcoin, isn't gambling, because it's assured at 100% that some of them will have a value, and the value of few of them will be so huge, that even if the other are worth zero it doesn't matter
legendary
Activity: 1176
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It seems as though we've moved on from 'warranties' to 'premium warranties' now.

Had to upgrade it after I heard someone really sends components to China fingers crossed.

Have a nice weekend bensam!

edit: No need to pay taxes inside EU if you have registered VAT-number. But you already knew it.
legendary
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The only coin that you can reduce the TDP on and not completely gutt the hashrate on is Zcash. That is the only weird coin Nvidia has for low TDPs and high efficiency.

Guess what: on all the coins I mine I get much better profit with lower TDP, for example 100W or less on 1070.
Reducing 10% power only reduces 1% to 5% hashrate on my systems.


Imagining a 150w TDP, 10% power is $.036. 5% hashrate on say Zcash is $.15. That's at $.1kwh. At that level it efficiency doesn't matter a whole lot. Efficiency doesn't in general till it starts approaching 50% of your revenue.

Did you try to dual mine zcash and sib with 100% tdp. Use the excavecator for zcash with one thread, and the alexis ccminer fork for sib.

I haven't had any luck with dual mining with the exception of Claymore. Trying to do it myself either straight splits performance 50/50 or it ends up being slightly worse.


Yup and you can't talk about them which means they're small coins and highly unstable. If other people figure them out, they die. AMD also has coins like that. You can't plan long term financial outlooks off a coin which might not be profitable tomorrow.

You can play russian roulette with the markets too. Sure it does matter, but you can't predict which coins will be highly profitable for a couple days.

Being the same as Zcash doesn't help anyone and is exactly why I used Zcash as a baseline in the first place.

'Was' showing the volatility of your claims. Library 'was' extremely profitable for Nvidia for awhile, Zcash 'was', Decred 'was', Vanilla 'was', Sib 'was' for me. Besides extremely niche coins we haven't had a big payday since Library. And if you think all I mine is Zcash you're mistaken. You're not the only one who can find niche coins, hence my pissed off post a couple months ago about Sib after someone ruined that.

I do like how you guys like to act as if I can't find niche coins or somehow am not including that in a hardware analysis. Getting lucky isn't the same as long term profitability. If your only argument for Nvidia is 'winning the lottery', there isn't much else to be said here.

it's not the same as lottery at all, those coins are always there some times they called nexus other time honey other time shitcoin 2.0 etc...the point is that those are always available there and give you substantially more profit

they are part of the long term profitability, and can't be ignored, and amd have less of these coins at the moment, because the algo on which those coins are made is pro nvidia

the only time amd have an advantage is when nvidia don't have a miner like with the coin called ZERO which i posted not long time ago

nexus for instance wasn't a russian roulette at all was just a coin, that was ignored because of no pool and the wierd fact that there is no nethash, this make it harder for miners to try it

but you could already tell the profit by looking at the huge emission rate, emission rate is everything here, from that value you know what you do with a coin

what you are going to lose to try one of those coins? the majority of them have so low hash that with one day or less you can accumulate so many, which make them always worth the risk, basically there is no risky

No, no they aren't always there. There aren't Decreds laying around. It's getting lucky once in a blue moon. That's why it's such a big deal when someone exposes one of those coins, because there aren't that many of them and when one of them craps out, you're subpar earnings for quite awhile. AMD has niches as well in addition to much more solid everyday earnings.

I like how you have no idea how many 'niche coins' there are, but you're sure AMD has 'less of them'.

Emission rate isn't everything. I thought you would've learned better Amph padawan. If a coin emits $10,000 a day and has enough hash on it that it's completely saturated (like SIA), it doesn't matter. Emission is also heavily dependent on volume. If a coin is value really highly, but doesn't have buy orders to back it up, it doesn't matter.

Yes, you literally gave the definition of a 'lottery'. Mining random coins hoping one of them ends up big is literally gambling.

I used to buy quite a lot of goods from USA using relay services back when you got $1.4-1.5 with one EUR. It was still, after customs + tax, way cheaper than in EU. But it all changed somewhere in 2008-2009.

Last five years I've had a really good airbridge to states, so good that I've had those newegg prices actually, zero vat+customs. But the fact is I have only bought clothes and shoes during that period, electronics isn't that cheap anymore for me. It just isn't worth it to loose premium warranty services, two 120gb ssd in five years, that's all.

There are plenty of retailers inside EU if one is after that cheapest price, no customs/ taxes. Most of the time I buy second hand stuff that is bought from local dealer and is still under warranty, right now 1070/ 1080 prices look quite tempting.


Hey look someone that does it. It seems as though we've moved on from 'warranties' to 'premium warranties' now. You get what you pay for. If you want to buy the most expensive models, that doesn't mean that's what everyone else does (or most people) nor should prices be based off of it.
legendary
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I used to buy quite a lot of goods from USA using relay services back when you got $1.4-1.5 with one EUR. It was still, after customs + tax, way cheaper than in EU. But it all changed somewhere in 2008-2009.

Last five years I've had a really good airbridge to states, so good that I've had those newegg prices actually, zero vat+customs. But the fact is I have only bought clothes and shoes during that period, electronics isn't that cheap anymore for me. It just isn't worth it to loose premium warranty services, two 120gb ssd in five years, that's all.

There are plenty of retailers inside EU if one is after that cheapest price, no customs/ taxes. Most of the time I buy second hand stuff that is bought from local dealer and is still under warranty, right now 1070/ 1080 prices look quite tempting.



legendary
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Yup and you can't talk about them which means they're small coins and highly unstable. If other people figure them out, they die. AMD also has coins like that. You can't plan long term financial outlooks off a coin which might not be profitable tomorrow.

You can play russian roulette with the markets too. Sure it does matter, but you can't predict which coins will be highly profitable for a couple days.

Being the same as Zcash doesn't help anyone and is exactly why I used Zcash as a baseline in the first place.

'Was' showing the volatility of your claims. Library 'was' extremely profitable for Nvidia for awhile, Zcash 'was', Decred 'was', Vanilla 'was', Sib 'was' for me. Besides extremely niche coins we haven't had a big payday since Library. And if you think all I mine is Zcash you're mistaken. You're not the only one who can find niche coins, hence my pissed off post a couple months ago about Sib after someone ruined that.

I do like how you guys like to act as if I can't find niche coins or somehow am not including that in a hardware analysis. Getting lucky isn't the same as long term profitability. If your only argument for Nvidia is 'winning the lottery', there isn't much else to be said here.

it's not the same as lottery at all, those coins are always there some times they called nexus other time honey other time shitcoin 2.0 etc...the point is that those are always available there and give you substantially more profit

they are part of the long term profitability, and can't be ignored, and amd have less of these coins at the moment, because the algo on which those coins are made is pro nvidia

the only time amd have an advantage is when nvidia don't have a miner like with the coin called ZERO which i posted not long time ago

nexus for instance wasn't a russian roulette at all was just a coin, that was ignored because of no pool and the wierd fact that there is no nethash, this make it harder for miners to try it

but you could already tell the profit by looking at the huge emission rate, emission rate is everything here, from that value you know what you do with a coin

what you are going to lose to try one of those coins? the majority of them have so low hash that with one day or less you can accumulate so many, which make them always worth the risk, basically there is no risky
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
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Team Black developer
Did you try to dual mine zcash and sib with 100% tdp. Use the excavecator for zcash with one thread, and the alexis ccminer fork for sib.
legendary
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Black Belt Developer
The only coin that you can reduce the TDP on and not completely gutt the hashrate on is Zcash. That is the only weird coin Nvidia has for low TDPs and high efficiency.

Guess what: on all the coins I mine I get much better profit with lower TDP, for example 100W or less on 1070.
Reducing 10% power only reduces 1% to 5% hashrate on my systems.
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