CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 363.

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 05:45:43 AM

...and i was not the only one. It was more a team effort.

But you got payed. It was a job. You based your work on other opensource coders and got payed for it. Why don't you compile a binary and we can compare the assembly code. I want you to compile it with the compiler and cuda version of your choice.
Please add it to your github. exefile.

Because when I compile your work, I get a 6% slower LBRY Kernel. I might have missed something?? The speed is not there. Are you compiling with compute 6.1?

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@alexis78, please, check your PM.

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 05:40:23 AM

The first opensource LBRY GPU kernel and ccminer integration was done by me 15-16 Jul 2016 (github). 2 days later tvpruvot released his version of the kernel.

Please not that mambo jumbo... not to me... i know how to read code

I'm still waiting for the changes you've done to my source code and added a fee on top, not only the latest one, but all of your public revisions. Then we can talk about contributions/commits/integrations etc. Thank you

You keep chewing the "i got paid" by the lbry team. I didnt ask for it and i was not the only one. It was more a team effort.

ccminer2.0 hosts a simple copy paste of our previous work, just to compete with your "complete rewrite claiming"

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 03:57:48 AM

Open source is better for everyone but there can be no ccminer community with someone parasitically asking for donations, applying fees, to code that he never wrote or non-existent increases.

The first opensource LBRY GPU kernel and ccminer integration was done by me 15-16 Jul 2016 (github). 2 days later tvpruvot released his version of the kernel.
After that I have been doing private modded kernels with more speed. It's normal to get payed when you do a job. You got payed by the LBRY team in october (5 months later).
(because at the time the LBRY sp-mod #2 was around 15% faster than the opensource)

You have never released an official binary of your work. (ccminer 2.0 is using your kernel, but with slow results) That's why I use the profiler to measure the real speed.

6months have passed and LBRY is profitable to mine again...

Now it's time to add another 10% ..

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Quote from: newmz on April 18, 2017, 03:44:31 AM

I respect both of you guys: @sp_ and @alexis78 for what you can do. I just use your code to mine, I can't write it.

I have to say it's very interesting to see you argue about who can produce more hash-rate from their code, but it would be better for all of us out here leeching off your work if you guys would collaborate rather than fight.

I do see the point made by @alexis78 though - surely open source is better for everyone?

@newmz there is no fight here

Open source is better for everyone but there can be no ccminer community with someone parasitically asking for donations, applying fees, to code that he never wrote or non-existent increases.

All i do here one more time (after the blake-8round sp's default intensity fiasco), is to make sure that everyone will mine efficiently without paying fees to any ccminer pimp.

But in the end, it will be the community's decision which of the both ways to walk, with all pros and cons that imply

@alexis78 OK I understand and I guess I agree with everything you said. I have often wondered what was going on here with someone offering private versions for a "donation" that will hash better, etc when I see all the stuff at ccminer.org that is open source. I didn't understand but now maybe I understand a bit better....

I must say that your ccminer gets me the best hash-rate on X11, Lyra2REv2 and cryptonight when I mine those algos - so thank you very much for that! Right now I'm mining equihash but I don't think ccminer does that yet right?

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Quote from: newmz on April 18, 2017, 03:44:31 AM

I respect both of you guys: @sp_ and @alexis78 for what you can do. I just use your code to mine, I can't write it.

I have to say it's very interesting to see you argue about who can produce more hash-rate from their code, but it would be better for all of us out here leeching off your work if you guys would collaborate rather than fight.

I do see the point made by @alexis78 though - surely open source is better for everyone?

@newmz there is no fight here

Open source is better for everyone but there can be no ccminer community with someone parasitically asking for donations, applying fees, to code that he never wrote or non-existent increases.

All i do here one more time (after the blake-8round sp's default intensity fiasco), is to make sure that everyone will mine efficiently without paying fees to any ccminer pimp.

But in the end, it will be the community's decision which of the both ways to walk, with all pros and cons that imply

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I respect both of you guys: @sp_ and @alexis78 for what you can do. I just use your code to mine, I can't write it.

I have to say it's very interesting to see you argue about who can produce more hash-rate from their code, but it would be better for all of us out here leeching off your work if you guys would collaborate rather than fight.

I do see the point made by @alexis78 though - surely open source is better for everyone?

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 03:11:48 AM

Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 02:27:01 AM

How come that only you are getting +2-6% out of these and everyone else gets a maximum of 0.5% increase? (scrolling back in your thread you can observe these benchmarks)
...talk is cheap show us the code

Because the first version I released yesterday had a bug with 100% cpu usage. I have updated the .7z file this morning with a working version.

I'm talking for tests taken from 28th of October and after. Not just yesterday....

Well, regarding the 100% cpu usage "bug".
I assume you tried to mess with the cudaScheduleYield and blockingSync. You should not. there is a reason why I (and everyone else) choose the blockingSync approach over ScheduleYield.

I'm still asking for the source

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 02:27:01 AM

How come that only you are getting +2-6% out of these and everyone else gets a maximum of 0.5% increase? (scrolling back in your thread you can observe these benchmarks)
...talk is cheap show us the code

Because the first version I released yesterday had a bug with 100% cpu usage. I have updated the .7z file this morning with a working version.

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 02:18:30 AM

Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 01:24:49 AM

Since your revision of my source has nothing to offer on the majority of the gpus, even 6 months after the release (except the 1.7% fee you take in your pocket).
Can we see the source code please?

Why don't you extract the ptx, you will see that it is different.
I left the exe wide open.

I get +2-6% faster on all the cards I have tested. Gtx 1060 3gb, gtx 1070, gtx 970.

100% tdp, small oc. -500 on the memory.

My kernel vs your kernel (gtx 1060 3gb):

You can profile it yourself.

How come that only you are getting +2-6% out of these and everyone else gets a maximum of 0.5% increase? (scrolling back in your thread you can observe these benchmarks)

...talk is cheap show us the code

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 01:24:49 AM

Since your revision of my source has nothing to offer on the majority of the gpus, even 6 months after the release (except the 1.7% fee you take in your pocket).
Can we see the source code please?

Why don't you extract the ptx, you will see that it is different.
I left the exe wide open.

I get +2-6% faster on all the cards I have tested. Gtx 1060 3gb, gtx 1070, gtx 970.

100% tdp, small oc. -500 on the memory.

My kernel vs your kernel (gtx 1060 3gb) same launch config, compiled with the same compiler (cuda 7.5), same driver:

You can profile it yourself.

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 01:24:49 AM

Since your revision of my source has nothing to offer on the majority of the gpus, even 6 months after the release (except the 1.7% fee you take in your pocket).
Can we see the source code please?

Hi! Can I have your btc address for donation? Cannot find it on readme at github.
Better to put it here.
Your miner is absolutely the best in all algos I tested!

please do forward any donations to Epsylon.
He is taking great care of the community by keeping ccminer free - open sourced - and up to date from any aspect.
Consider my contributions as a donation to epsylon's work too

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sp_, may I get the latest spreadminer you have released?
By the way, I have more than ten EVGA GTX 970s for sale. I'm in US, if anybody's interested - please PM.
This one: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Part Number: 04G-P4-2974-KR
http://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=8296b494-5d1d-400d-b2e8-d00ccd71e088

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Quote from: alexis78 on April 18, 2017, 01:24:49 AM

Since your revision of my source has nothing to offer on the majority of the gpus, even 6 months after the release (except the 1.7% fee you take in your pocket).
Can we see the source code please?

Hi! Can I have your btc address for donation? Cannot find it on readme at github.
Better to put it here.
Your miner is absolutely the best in all algos I tested!

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Since your revision of my source has nothing to offer on the majority of the gpus, even 6 months after the release (except the 1.7% fee you take in your pocket).
Can we see the source code please?

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 12:56:50 AM

I have profiled with the same intensity. Run 2 versions on a pool. Mine is faster

well, maybe for 1060 3gb, I have no such card so cannot check.
But the Queen - gtx1070 was always your weakspot ))

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I have profiled with the same intensity. Run 2 versions on a pool. Mine is faster

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 12:47:52 AM

Quote from: rednoW on April 18, 2017, 12:45:29 AM

Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 12:31:59 AM

Because it's 6% faster and free download. Try it

are you kidding? 311 free miner and 312-313 yours with fee starting immediately ... same afterburner settings ... bullshit ))

My kernel need more power.

I tested on the 1060 3gb.

Just noticed def intensity 29 for your miner, put it to free miner and received the same 312-313mhs. You are trying to take fee for compiling others work ))
You have no "your kernel"

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Quote from: rednoW on April 18, 2017, 12:45:29 AM

Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 12:31:59 AM

Because it's 6% faster and free download. Try it

are you kidding? 311 free miner and 312-313 yours with fee starting immediately ... same afterburner settings ... bullshit ))

My kernel need more power.

I tested on the 1060 3gb.

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Quote from: sp_ on April 18, 2017, 12:31:59 AM

Because it's 6% faster and free download. Try it

are you kidding? 311 free miner and 312-313 yours with fee starting immediately ... same afterburner settings ... bullshit ))

P.S. And with "nonce was already sent bug" ))))))))))))))))))

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