Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 454. (Read 2347664 times)

MODIFY THE CODE WITH ASSEMBLY, RELEASE IT, GET DONATIONS--

OR what the heck, just keep it to yourself and use it on your farm.  Just don't screw with the GPL.  Then, nobody will have nasty comments.       -scryptr

You got me, there is no way he can look at their coding, change variables around and simply recode it. XD

Putting aside EWBF already having done that.

yeah, do it, so they won't release any more opensource.

yes... violate them they are yugo-slaves

Get to work SP!

No, I think one of the 5173s I received back didn't have thermal paste applied properly. New one I just got back from EVGA has relatively good cooling like all the other models.

Back to pre-Dec BTC prices... Hopefully this isn't the start of a downhill slope again. We did so well growing slowly in 2016. ~_~

As a addendum, I believe I have one 5173 with the thermal pad installed and it runs ridiculously hot (like MSI temps) and start throttling when mining Equihash. Either that or when it was fixed they didn't apply the thermal paste right, I can't tell which. I'll be able to figure this out once I start getting RMAs back from EVGA.

I'm pretty sure the back burnouts aren't caused by temperatures as much as the components being crap as I mentioned before though and the added stress of memory OCs put them over the edge. The front burnouts are probably exclusively caused by temperatures and lack of thermal pads as they're already under a 'cooling plate' and make no contact with it, so it's just a insulator... especially when combined with dissipating heat from other parts of the card with actual contact to the plate (like other VRMs, memory) it actually increases the temperature of the components that are failing.

EVGA is I believe the only brand to use a front plate. Other manufacturers use heatsinks on various parts of the card or they cover other areas with the actual heatsink, but they don't use a full plate. This in and of itself maybe one of the causes of these burnouts.

Edit: Checked all my cards, MSI and EVGA are the only manufacturers that use full plates to cover the whole underside of their heatsinks. Asus, Zotac, and Gigabyte either use little heatsinks to cover key components or part of the physical heatsink. Guess having airflow is a good idea.

MSI reds and EVGA 5173 suffer from burnouts after about a month of use (around 50% failure rate for both now). Gigabyte has crap fans that crap out within 6-12 months, 15-24 if you run them slow. Zotac two-slot double-fan coolers (forgot the model number). MSI whites seem to work fine, but they also have a TDP of just 108%.

I've had absolutely no problems with Asus. Even their shitty white ones, despite them being cheaper and not OCing as well still haven't had problems with them. Haven't tried PNY. Zotac models besides that one are good (besides mini, I'm sure that's just asking for problems).

I'm sure you wont have problems with either MSI or EVGA if you run them simply at 100% TDP and not any higher, but if they couldn't handle more then that they shouldn't allow you to run the TDP higher. Gigabyte cards would be great if their fans weren't so bad.

Yeah... compared to AMD cards and last gen Nvidia (9XX) besides Gigabyte and their crap fans, I've never had so many problems with video cards while mining. Any of the AMD cards that also had the half height shit fans like Gigabyte went bad (XFX), otherwise no burnouts... regardless of them using more power. Sad that companies that sell a $400 premium product cut corners to save a couple cents on cheaper parts.


Appreciate the link to the actual comparison instead of EVGA and then a random Tomshardware link.

There is no way to apply a 'back pad' on a card without a backplate, so this isn't comparable though. If there was a backpad and plate, this might work. I assume the front pads also help reduce temperatures in general, but EVGA is definitely still at fault for not doing this first. I never said the pads wouldn't reduce temperatures, just that they aren't there and I'm getting burnouts (as are other people).

You can also run your Gigabyte fans at 30% and add more fans to your system to 'fix' their fans going bad, but it doesn't fix the original problem, which is they're broken in the first place.

If there was some guarantee that the pads were installed before purchasing the cards I would probably still recommend them and it still doesn't make up for burnouts in the first place, but there is no way to figure out whether or not you're getting old stock with or without the pads installed.

ok well, google translate it :

http://www.tomshardware.fr/articles/evga-surchauffe-geforce-solution-test,2-2585-2.html

but if i hear you correctly, all cards and brands are crap

It's just that, as usual, you NEED to be right, don't you? :-D

These aren't even the same cards in the same conditions doing the same things. You can't just post random infrared photos as comparisons. If you had a before and after of the same card doing the same thing I might be obliged. There are so many things wrong with this comparison I can't even cover all of it. -_-

Thanks for the info, very informative !

you are wrong, the thermal pad can help :



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But, the 1070s are less hungry



For MSI, its different, their backplate is isolated and really thin... look like more an useless protection without thermal use (removed it on the 1060 Gaming X)

Thermal pads are for the front side of the card under the front plate (there is a plate under the heatsink). And no, they wouldn't help with the burn outs on the back as I've said. ~_~

i was quoting _javi_ with his model 08G-P4-6173 this model is the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 and this one got a backplate and the thermal pad mod is available for them. Never spoke about the other model with no backplate...

I have GTX 1070 FTW from EVGA, with micron chip, the backplate run hot, but i don't think i have an issue with the termal pads, will still order some in case of.

If there is no backplate, there is nothing to do with the VRM thermal pads :p and the mem ones are only for micron chips which doesnt have the same height (but look like a bad rumour this thing, pads are compressed)

So, you don't smoke but your cards do?

And I am ago 3-4 weeks at EVGA filed for thermal pads, but I still have not got thermal pads .

Just 5173s, that's their model number. No backplate.

And the problem I'm having isn't isolated completely to thermal pads, but padawan is uninformed as always and has me on ignore.

Ah yeah aren't those the ones they were talking about on the EVGA  forum where the memory heatsink pad weren't touching the memory chips. They need to be fixed or sent back to EVGA i invite you to contact them about it.