Topic: [CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ - page 77. (Read 133496 times)

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Very sad to see that I am also removed. But yes, always I respect your decision to make the campaign better. I did not lose my hope yet to work with you. For that, I am reapplying now. Hope will back again to work with you.

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Ok, applying here then.

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I am going to change my avatar/signature if accepted. Thanks!

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Hello, guys,

Week 34 is up. The payment sent your way: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5106faf1edbc26ef07afcc1ca73007dabc1b831bd27e628feb62d76451d78e13

We have updated the table with the participants of the campaign. As we promised, now only 20 users are left. It was a hard decision, but we saw it necessary to update our campaign and that had to be done.

We would like to express sincere gratitude for everyone who has been with us all these weeks and months! You have done a lot for our company. It is thanks to you that we became known on this forum and the positive image of our brand has been built. We appreciate each and everyone’ contribution.

In any case, we do not shut the doors for the removed participants. If in the future we get new slots, you can re-apply.

We opened 5 new slots for Sr. Member, Hero Member and Legendary Member.

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Wishing the all saints to be part of this wonderful campaign 

Looks like it's the end of my contract, I don't feel that I am being removed, it feels like I graduated from your campaign.  Your decision for this new changes and strategy is for the best. Thank you for the opportunity I completed 34 weeks in this campaign that is an accomplishment. 
Thank you Bestchange!


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I started writing to you a PM, but I think in the meantime a response has been written here from the others.
certainly, the decision is up to the manager and it is his decision which posts meet the criteria. For example, posts in topics like COINOMI a real good service. what do you think? does not deserve to be counted no matter on which page is it. Such threads are created only to pump the number of posts.

Here will be so big cut off with new changes. You plan to remove 2/3 members of the campaign and add new 15. it is a very big change, considering that there are a lot of good posters in the campaign, it is very easily possible that you will kick some good posters out and replace it with the same or perhaps even poorer quality. But with fewer participants, it will probably be much easier to check all of it.


Sometimes it's enough just to read topic subject to know, that post wrote there is probably spam. Also after a few months counting,  the manager might already know where ^{which user} need to pay attention and where they can just to count eligible section, without checking whether shit was written.


As I know, posts in any campaign thread do not count. although there is a somewhat more constructive discussion here than in some countable topics.

They are not going to be paid, my friend.
I forgot your old name btw, is it iasenko? That was the only guy I remember with a bearded baby in his avatar. 

It's simple (it's not!!), if you want to change the 5th page rule, the campaign manager should start evaluate every single post and make a decision if those posts deserve to be counted or not.

But.. you know there's always one but(t)...
This will probably rise a lot of questions and debates "why my posts are not counted". After all it's the camp. manager who is has the last word.
On the other hand there will be speculations that the Campaign Manager is not independent and is part of the Service provider, and maybe will try to "save" money by skipping posts like that.. so drama...

It is very difficult to define a rule which will keep the both sides satisfied.

On my side, I don't really care if those after page 5 will be counted or not, I post the way I did it before I joined the campaign. It's a highly paid campaign, compare to the other ones out there, so people shouldn't be greedy.


Advice: Just wait and see how it will go with the current changes, if more additional adjustments are needed later, we continue the discussion. Maybe posts in the this thread shouldn't be paid too..

That was the same thing I was going to write.
But there's another feature on this forum which only a few know about, the Google Search feature on this forum.
How?
If a user wants to search for a specific phrase but are willing to write it as a question, do it like - What is "Bitcoin"?
If something is to be searched which covers two different topics, search - Bitcoin + Blockchain.
Many more ways are available to possibly reach some specific threads where these users can easily find their answers, but who would like to do that when they want to increase their post count? Hehe.

Not to forget that even if newbies try and search their questions on Google, they can get instant answers to almost all their questions as internet has too much of information available to questions which we can't even think of, and Reddit, Bitcointalk as well as quora are all your best places to find all your answers.

Its been a while since they implemented the 5 page rule about spam ans counted post. I know that everybody has their own reasoning and nobody is wrong here. But the only one who could feel the improvement regarding this rule is bestchange company itself. They know if the system favors the advertisement strategy since then. I assume its working but of course, as a participant of a paid signature, and a user dedicated on this forum who wanted to continue posting on mega thread with quality topics are not wrong. Thats why there is a 10% allowance given to us as approved by them when the rules are amend.

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The improvement bestchange made probably working on their need here. Everybody will not be pleased by the news as some of us will be removed but for the benefit of the company they are doing all what they can suggest and improved.

Because I always remember what bestchange keeps reiterate about the ads. They dont want their signature to be swarming on old post which is reasonable. I do hope that best method can be implement for both parties that gives the benefit for everyone.

• Mostly, problems of OP can be answered in a few first posts or a few first pages. Honestly, after page 2 to 3, discussions tend to be repeat what are presented in early first pages (1 to 3 or you can expand it to 5). It is why the forum has a lock button, when answers are given, lock topics. Unfortunately, many members don't lock their topics)
• The rule does not say that all posts after page #5 won't be counted for weekly payments. It is at 10%.
• Disadvantage: sometimes posts after page 5 can still be helpful -- when newbies join topics and ask for answers, if you write a good post, it can help them. However, as said, answers can be found at early pages (mostly). They are simply too lazy to read first pages and look for available answers.
• A helpful post in early pages is more helpful than another helpful post in page 10, 20 -- if contents are similar
• 4 posts per day don't kill you
• The rule can help to reduce debates on how posts are counted and accept rules of campaign during participation time is a must.

Posters should Search for: available topics, then read first posts, pages or last pages (if topics are locked). I am sure answers can be found.

Example: I see it mins ago. That post is unnecessary because answers are given by some other posters. Even at page 1, that post is unnecessary.

Seeing how BestChange has made several changes in recent times, the more we see the seriousness of BestChange in prioritizing quality, not only about quantity.
How not, if only prioritizing the number of participants who use the Signature from BestChange, of course, they will prefer a large number of people to participate in their campaign and will not change to this latest rule.
However, BestChange made an interesting and important decision, namely to reduce the number of participants from this signature campaign. And of course, the selected participants will be the best. I am sure that all participants in the BestChange signature campaign are very good participants. And of course, every participant will hope that they can still be part of this signature campaign. Regardless of the outcome and whoever is selected, it is BestChange's right, and of course they have their own criteria and consideration.

In addition, note that there are additional payments and interesting bonuses for the 5 best participants. This is very interesting, where the participants will try their best to be 1 of them. And this will have an effect on the increasing quality of the participants' posts. I remember when being in the previous signature campaign, there were rewards like this too and need more efforts to get the rewards, but, nothing is impossible. And in any case, it is very motivational. (Of course, the participants here may not intend to make posts just to get a reward, but rather a better contribution to BestChange and this forum).  

It's not like it was banned to post on threads with more than 5 pages, Best_Change still allows up to 4-5 afaik. Besides imo, 5 pages is pretty long already, and most topics would probably have diverged from the original topic. My recommendation would then be to let the new discussion be done in a new thread, which would make it a lot cleaner and easier to talk about. Additionally, they already implemented the new payment system, so it's just a matter of getting paid more or paid less if some were to post in mega spam threads instead of new ones.

Probably the best if there was some sort of vote regarding this? If most are dissatisfied, Best_Change could probably compromise BUT only add 1-2 more posts since as they said, megaspam threads may have useful discussion, but MOST of them are actually just spam, which just adds a lot of workload for Best_Change. That or, use @Stedsm idea of a quarter of total posts since half seems to be a bit too much.

With all due respect to BestChange decision in the rules of the campaign, this just makes sense at all. I really had hard time looking for threads that has less than 5 pages to post, sometimes I think opening a new one will do the job for me but the content that day or week does not seem to be interesting.

I think what the BestChange needs to amend in the rules is this one, make every participant post freely on the first page of the section regardless of the page count, but you have to have an examiner more likely a post examiner that will decide if one's post will count towards the week quota.

This could be a lot of work to do but if you are really changing for good, bringing more quality, I think this will do.

Don't get me wrong here, but TBH, spam has its own definition and you have the right to choose which posts to be counted and which shouldn't and you are not entitled to give any explanations whatsoever on those uncounted (or discounted, whichever suits) posts. I believe you should remove this rule at the first place because even if your signature is on the last page of any thread, it is there at least which means that your name is there in that thread that's old enough and/or informative. If you'd like to get a sureshot suggestion, I'd ask you to extend the number to 10 pages, that too for maximum half/quarter of the posts a user makes. That means, if I make 10 posts, 5/7 of them are allowed to be on any page and the rest 5/3 should be on or under 10 pages. How's that?

While we need some reasonable impressions (views) gained for our signature, this thing that bounds us from posting in old threads and rather make posts in new threads should be revoked as our posting habits should not change because if quality matters, you are there to check it out and decide whether or not to count a post. We can't deny the fact that many of those newly created threads by different users are meaningless and we just can't create a new thread just to reach our minimum posts).

We understand what this is about. But what are you suggesting in return? How exactly do you want to modify this rule?

He's saying that very often many posts after page 5 can be constructive. Would you prefer somebody with your signature spamming in every new thread or would you prefer your participants replying with reasoning in threads that already exist (and that might go well beyond page 5)?

I support that this specific rule needs to be changed. The way it is now, your members are incentivized to post in new threads only. For the sake of reaching their quota they would rather stop commenting already existing threads for new ones.

tl;dr I believe that posting in new threads only (less than 5 pages) encourages post quantity over quality.