Changing Gambling Narratives - page 6.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

The four points you mentioned are all correct, none of them are wrong. Even then Still, I think there is no need to make such a fuss about gambling.

I personally think that gambling is nothing more than a source of entertainment. There can be many sources or levels of entertainment such as physical games and virtual games and gambling is another source like those. so I don't think there is any need to make too much fuss about gambling and also there is no need to be proud as a gambler.

However, I think that gambling responsibility should be promoted more than this because the way gambling is promoted in the online world in an exaggerated way is misleading most people and they fall into the trap of addiction. Therefore, we should support the Gambling responsibility campaign more instead of this type of campaign.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 24, 2025, 03:33:52 PM

What I noticed is linked to gambling is money laundering but according to the news that I have read very well before, money laundering are in bank and seen as clean.

According to a report from 2022 prepared by the provincial government casinos in British Columbia, casinos were used to launder billions of dollars in cash in the past few years. Also every year American casinos record 50 000 incidents of suspicious conduct which makes us wonder our casino is the easiest way to launder money. Casinos are involved in a variety of financial activities that are similar to those of financial institutions moreover casinos have consequently established themselves as a lucrative sector for those wishing to convert illicit or dirty money into clean money. This is the reason that money launderers find the casino business to be a lucrative one for their illegal activities as well as they provide a lot of cover. We well are aware that casinos are popular hot spots for criminals who try to launder their proceeds from illegal Ventures like drug trafficking and human trafficking often target the casino business.

The report: https://www.comsuregroup.com/news/scathing-report-highlights-multiple-failings-that-led-to-laundering-of-billions-of-dollars-in-bc/

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Quote from: Jewan420 on January 25, 2025, 12:08:41 PM

When someone gambles irresponsibly or promotes gambling in public, it is considered illegal by the state and punished by the administration.

Gambling has always been promoted in publics,the country isn't against It , so far they are licenced and allowed by the government then they can promote it publicly unless the government does not allow it themselves(not sure if there'sany ) although there could be a limit to where / how they can promote it.
Also , government can't track every individual to know if they gamble responsibly or not , casinos might have users KYCs but government will only require it if they are after a particular individual or group of individuals(probably for money laundering and likes) so it all on the gambler to gamble responsibly. If government were to be doing that then large percentage of gamblers will have quit long ago Grin

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

Gambling narratives differ from one person to another; it is just the narratives of irresponsible gamblers that were enhanced that make gambling so bad in the eyes of the public.
There are bad and good sides to gambling; let's take the case of a lottery here in our country: lives have changed since winning the jackpot in the lottery.
And millions of people have benefited from the taxes of the lottery, as a huge part of the income goes to the health sector. Gambling, if not properly handled, can make a person's situation bad, but if you look at the big picture, countless lives have been saved by its operation.

Gambling can be bad for those who do not understand gambling and who are addicted to it thinking that it is a means of earning money, but if gambling can be accepted as entertainment, then gambling is very fun. However, it is true that gambling has both good and bad sides. People can benefit from gambling and people can also be destroyed by gambling. Those who have been able to earn the most money by winning the jackpot through gambling and have been able to spend that money on good deeds have benefited their lives and those who have wasted money instead of earning money from gambling have destroyed their lives. However, it is always better to use a small budget for gambling and accept gambling as entertainment.

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I agree with OP gamblers aren't any of such, they few gamblers who possess such characteristics cannot be referred to as every other person as they do not represent the general characteristics of evrry other gambler out there who legitly gamble for fun and not foe any of such and any gamblers who possess such characteristics isn't doing as a result of gambler but rather for their selves and their own personal behaviour and not gambling that led them into any of such.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 25, 2025, 10:34:56 AM

True, so many people and entities are against gambling.

They only focus with gambling addicts and they label every gamblers are addicts, there's so many discrimination if you admit you're a gambler. You might lost your job, you might lost friends, you might lost your partner, you might be kicked out from your parents etc.

We need gamblers who share their gambling stories and they have a good life.

First of all, we need to understand that it is in the behavior of man to always remember and talk about the negativity of something rather than the good thing that's involved.
Second, we see all this happening because of the behavior of people who are gambling addicted through their greed and mismanagement attitude. However, if most gambling platforms could develop rules and regulations that restrict gamblers who are addicted from playing it could help prevent the negative beliefs of some people about gambling.

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If a country allows gambling to be allowed to flourish, it can have a negative impact on that country. In some countries, gambling is illegal, but people still gamble, but the question is not asked, because the government is not against gambling. When someone gambles irresponsibly or promotes gambling in public, it is considered illegal by the state and punished by the administration. Gambling is legal in most European countries, but gambling is especially illegal in countries where there are religious restrictions on gambling. After all, no matter which country you are in, if you gamble responsibly, you may not face any reaction from the state against you.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

This is a good topic for discussion. In my close circle of friends, gambling is perceived both neutrally and positively, there is no manifestation of negativity. But the older generation has negative impressions of gambling because there is an association with crime and something illegal. In films, we are always shown casinos as an intermediary for laundering money between criminal groups and they do not romanticize it at all. I think in a few more years this will become an absolutely normal phenomenon in society in many places.

But, in the future, as gambling becomes a normal thing, it will lead the youth to further destruction, because if we consider the current gambling situation, most of the minors are addicted to gambling at present, and they gamble openly in front of everyone, but no one asks them to come out of gambling or forbids them, because it seems to be a normal thing at present.

So now think that gambling has not yet become completely normal, but despite not being normal, the way such a negative impact has spread among the youth and teenagers, then when it is considered completely normal in the future, how will it affect every child.

Gambling becoming completely normal means that 100% of teenagers will be addicted to gambling. Which will ruin the beautiful future of every teenager.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

This is a good topic for discussion. In my close circle of friends, gambling is perceived both neutrally and positively, there is no manifestation of negativity. But the older generation has negative impressions of gambling because there is an association with crime and something illegal. In films, we are always shown casinos as an intermediary for laundering money between criminal groups and they do not romanticize it at all. I think in a few more years this will become an absolutely normal phenomenon in society in many places.

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True, so many people and entities are against gambling.

They only focus with gambling addicts and they label every gamblers are addicts, there's so many discrimination if you admit you're a gambler. You might lost your job, you might lost friends, you might lost your partner, you might be kicked out from your parents etc.

We need gamblers who share their gambling stories and they have a good life.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do,

The government part caught my attention, well, is not new for some countries' governments to see gambling as bad/illegal. This is because many countries are religious countries, particularly Muslim countries, they've never supported gambling and never will they since their religion forbids it. Also, some countries like Japan, Cambodia, North Korea etc make gambling illegal, but not entirely. They have conditions through which you can gamble and there are some plain exceptions. They mostly do that to avoid capital flight because some of them only limit the citizens but allow foreigners. What will baffle me is if those countries that were initially collecting taxes through gambling now deem it illegal.

Uk has been the top country doing it collecting a lot of money from gambling companies, they now do not see gambling as completely illegal but they have forbiden totally the ads on Tv and Internet because massive persons were joining such platforms that the government become worried. They still collect taxes from gambling but not in the scale they used to do it before passing the law of not advertising gambling on cable Tv and Internet.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do,

The government part caught my attention, well, is not new for some countries' governments to see gambling as bad/illegal. This is because many countries are religious countries, particularly Muslim countries, they've never supported gambling and never will they since their religion forbids it. Also, some countries like Japan, Cambodia, North Korea etc make gambling illegal, but not entirely. They have conditions through which you can gamble and there are some plain exceptions. They mostly do that to avoid capital flight because some of them only limit the citizens but allow foreigners. What will baffle me is if those countries that were initially collecting taxes through gambling now deem it illegal.

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Quote from: bubilas on January 25, 2025, 08:21:50 AM

The story of one gambler whose life was ruined much more expensively than 10,000 lives of those who made a profit from the casino and simply became more cheerful. The loser I am writing about may not cope with the addiction, and take all the things out of the house, play benefits and payments intended for children, and do hundreds of other dirty deeds. It is clear that the community is right to consider the abuse of gambling and betting evil. And they can be understood in this. Yes, in small quantities, hours spent gambling are fun. But no one knows if they can control themselves.

I understand your point but in reality there’s a 10,000 losers and only 1 winner in gambling as a representation on the winning rate against the casino. Your comparison seems like there’s a lot of winner compared to losers although you are just trying to emphasize the value of being losers to the winners.

In reality, 1 positive testimonials from winner can encourage and give motivation to all the losers to play more that’s why there’s still a lot of gamblers out there despite many is losing money frequently.

The power of 1 positive comment is more valuable than testimonials of many gambling addiction since there’s still a lot of gamblers despite the risk.

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Gambling is not really against human nature. Different types of gambling existed in different ancient civilizations.

The famous musketeers of King Louis XIII loved to play dice. Alexandre Dumas wrote about this very excitingly in his famous novel "The Three Musketeers".

French kings, in particular, Louis XIII and Louis XIV, preferred card games.

Roulette appeared later. A colorful description of the game of roulette is contained, in particular, in Jack London's novel "Time Waits for No One".

At all times, men (and women) played gambling to get to know themselves better, to learn not to be afraid of risk, to experience vivid emotions.

If a person does not develop a gambling addiction in the process of gambling, then gambling makes his life more interesting and fulfilling.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do, well this is not what we can force anyone go against his will, but then, we also have to know what we stand for, whom we are and also be proud of it by making our stand, therefore i bring to you the following.

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

The story of one gambler whose life was ruined much more expensively than 10,000 lives of those who made a profit from the casino and simply became more cheerful. The loser I am writing about may not cope with the addiction, and take all the things out of the house, play benefits and payments intended for children, and do hundreds of other dirty deeds. It is clear that the community is right to consider the abuse of gambling and betting evil. And they can be understood in this. Yes, in small quantities, hours spent gambling are fun. But no one knows if they can control themselves.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

The four points you mentioned are your understanding, of course they apply only to yourself, in government and society the position of gambling has various understandings, you could say that, but I don't think so for those for whom gambling is against their religious laws, all these points are accepted and supported for those who always win and profit in gambling games, but not for those who always have problems, that's for sure.

Maybe you can ask for support in this forum, but not in parliament or to the authority in your country, if that you do I believe you have been demonstrated by your home by an anti -gambling community, here maybe there is no problem with this support, because the forum does not apply gambling licensing rules, maybe you will have problems if you propose this point in the parliament building.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

These comparisons are based on the two faces of gamblers: there are bad or irresponsible gamblers and there are good and responsible gamblers. its really up to the individual what they choose to become, and the only way not to become the bad example of gambling is to have total control over your actions in how you gamble.
So when you start to gamble, you need to understand the possibility of what you will become if you fail to be responsible.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 24, 2025, 03:33:52 PM

Gambling is legal in most countries except countries that their religion do not allow them to gamble. They see gambling like sin which make them not to gamble. Most of the countries that ban gambling are Muslim countries.

What I noticed is linked to gambling is money laundering but according to the news that I have read very well before, money laundering are in bank and seen as clean.

If there is any legal gambling in a country, it is for sure regulated casinos, especially in this day and age when online casinos are rampant,
in which most casinos that pretend to be legal but are illegal in reality are also rampant.

And there are other casinos that are owned by the government itself, hiding behind charity programs, which have also been of great help to us and have been beneficial for decades.

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We can not do that if our country prohibit gambling because that will break the government law and we can face a problem. We can not blame those people who say that gambling as an illegal thing that because that is their right. If we don't like them say like that, we don't have to listen what they say whilst we can still playing gambling as usual. Gambling can be dangerous for those people only if they can not control themselves and can not limit their gambling habit and gives much problem to them.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

Worry not, bro. Gambling isn't going anywhere. It's here to stay, no matter what. It's as old as prostitution and man's habit. All the vices you mentioned and alleged to belong to gambling are also associated with every business enterprise man engages in. They're all common place things, nothing extraordinary.

Quote from: Oshosondy on January 24, 2025, 03:33:52 PM

Gambling is legal in most countries except countries that their religion do not allow them to gamble. They see gambling like sin which make them not to gamble. Most of the countries that ban gambling are Muslim countries.

Sadly, these countries or states (as it's the case with my country) won't object to aides/revenue sent from gambling countries or states to them. It's the highest level of irony when they knowingly accept aides or revenue from those they see as indulging in sinful habit, really.

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