Chasing looses Vs Finding closure: Any difference? - page 4.

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Quote from: len01 on April 02, 2023, 12:34:36 AM

Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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I say these two words are the same as never stop gambling.
chasing defeat and seeking closure are the same thing. in the end the gambler will lose continuously and get big wins that are not worth the loss after that the gambler will continue to bet increasing the bet amount to get back all his losses but that is something in vain and lose even more.

it will go on and on never finding closure and always chasing defeat.

Winning in gambling is hard so chasing losses is hard too. It can be a never-ending journey for those who have a big losses but what if they get lucky one day and hit the jackpot which makes them recover all of their losses? I think some of them are committed to stop their gambling habit and use the money on something that can provide them with consistent income like opening up a business.

Getting big wins aside from losses are better than not getting anything at all. At least it might help us to progress faster. We should only control our selves and don't over bet next time because once we lose, it will only make our journey difficult to be finished.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 02, 2023, 12:49:10 PM

No matter how the name is been twisted, it is definitely same thing.
And what if in the case of finding a closure, one never makes any win but rather makes continuous losses, would you still advice the gambler to keep seeking for closure or would you advice him to pause and have a rethink.

Most gamblers attempting to find closure will make continuous losses until losing all their funds. It's important to advise a gambler to rethink about his game before he puts the idea of recovering the lost amount through finding closure, so we can prevent him from losing even more money in a worthless attempt of recovering money which has been already gone, due to seeing this terrible idea on a thread from Reddit, although I really don't think there is anyone unable to spot the difference between chasing losses and finding closure, because after all, it's quite obvious they express the same meaning on practice.

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I think you could say that. Because if it is an addiction, and you have no strategy to put a stop loss your assets, then it is more or less chasing a closure. And it is a very risky approach, because you will lose more in the process.
This is why we need to make a separate plan and savings only for gambling and have a proper plan on how much we are willing to lose or can afford to lose. Otherwise, it will be a path full of regrets.

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No matter how the name is been twisted, it is definitely same thing.
And what if in the case of finding a closure, one never makes any win but rather makes continuous losses, would you still advice the gambler to keep seeking for closure or would you advice him to pause and have a rethink.
Gambling is a game for the strong hearted and one should always be ready for the unexpected as nothing is guaranteed in gambling not even the winnings or losses.
It has always been advice that people should use only the money they can afford to loss as this will help people acceot loss easily and not tend to chase after their losses.

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Quote from: death69 on April 02, 2023, 07:55:00 AM

Gambling is a wild rollercoaster of emotions. One moment you're winning, the next you're losing.

Once you win and several times even untold you lose Cheesy

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It's a complicated love-hate situation—you're aware it's not good, but it's too tempting to resist. It's a fun game of luck, but it can quickly become too much. Managing your money wisely is essential to dodge big losses, but emotions can sometimes take over. That's why it's important to never risk more than you can handle losing. As the adage goes, "when the fun stops, stop." Gambling can be an enjoyable pastime, but always be sure to gamble with care.

Every gambler always has the same problem and that is when they cannot control themselves while gambling, especially when winning or losing large amounts always occurs.
This is a condition that has existed until now, but on the other hand, when something like this is discussed, of course it will become something very common in gambling.
On the other hand, money management is important because in this case we also have to be aware of what our intentions are for gambling so there is no need to get carried away by emotions for something like that because this will only make you burn if you insert emotions into the game you created yourself.

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Quote from: Sterbens on April 02, 2023, 11:29:34 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on April 02, 2023, 11:09:21 AM

Any gambler knows that gambling involves a casino advantage, so hoping to win back his past losses is the same as finding a needle in a haystack.

Everyone wants to win at gambling, but how many of us do? How often do we win enough to cover past losses? It seems to me that it happens very rarely. I think that those who gamble simply need to learn how to lose, because this is a very likely outcome of the game.

That's right, if you put big money to gamble with the aim of winning and want to return past losses in my opinion this is very impossible, you will not be able to catch up on something that has been lost in gambling.
When you gamble, it means you are ready to lose money, you must learn to be responsible for what you have done and get rid of the selfish feeling of wanting to return losses if you don't want to lose everything.
Gambling is just for fun not for income.

Trading is all about being very smart. There no way we want to mak money from gambling with making loses but there is way we can do it to make sure that everything is balance. Lose is normal in the gambling world but we should always try to make consistent profit as we keep making gambles. Of we have past loses and we want to get our money back, the best way is for us not to gamble with too much money at once. It is good for us to observe what we are doing even though what we are betting on has bigger chances of us making high profits from the market.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 02, 2023, 11:09:21 AM

Any gambler knows that gambling involves a casino advantage, so hoping to win back his past losses is the same as finding a needle in a haystack.

Everyone wants to win at gambling, but how many of us do? How often do we win enough to cover past losses? It seems to me that it happens very rarely. I think that those who gamble simply need to learn how to lose, because this is a very likely outcome of the game.

That's right, if you put big money to gamble with the aim of winning and want to return past losses in my opinion this is very impossible, you will not be able to catch up on something that has been lost in gambling.
When you gamble, it means you are ready to lose money, you must learn to be responsible for what you have done and get rid of the selfish feeling of wanting to return losses if you don't want to lose everything.
Gambling is just for fun not for income.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on April 02, 2023, 10:46:24 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on April 02, 2023, 10:10:56 AM

Someone who is addicted to gambling to the extent that he sells assets or property just to gamble is very difficult to recover from, even doctors or psychologists will not be able to cure him.
If he can recover, he will not recover completely but rather forget about gambling and when in his daily life he still sees gambling activities he can easily return to gambling and become an addict again.

Gambling addiction must be treated as any other addiction, the first step is to realize that there is a problem, then talk about the problem and the last step is to work on a solution, but most of gambling addicts are chasing looses on the long road, and that never has a happy end.

Betting back to the topic, I don't think is the same, chasing losses is different, and the fact that someone says "I will be betting until win" is a risky move because bad streaks can be really bad and lead to a huge loss.

Any gambler knows that gambling involves a casino advantage, so hoping to win back his past losses is the same as finding a needle in a haystack.

Everyone wants to win at gambling, but how many of us do? How often do we win enough to cover past losses? It seems to me that it happens very rarely. I think that those who gamble simply need to learn how to lose, because this is a very likely outcome of the game.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on April 02, 2023, 10:46:24 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on April 02, 2023, 10:10:56 AM

Someone who is addicted to gambling to the extent that he sells assets or property just to gamble is very difficult to recover from, even doctors or psychologists will not be able to cure him.
If he can recover, he will not recover completely but rather forget about gambling and when in his daily life he still sees gambling activities he can easily return to gambling and become an addict again.

Gambling addiction must be treated as any other addiction, the first step is to realize that there is a problem, then talk about the problem and the last step is to work on a solution, but most of gambling addicts are chasing looses on the long road, and that never has a happy end.

Betting back to the topic, I don't think is the same, chasing losses is different, and the fact that someone says "I will be betting until win" is a risky move because bad streaks can be really bad and lead to a huge loss.

The feeling on winning big can never be easy to remove.

That's what makes them coming back when they hit the first loss they think they could do the same thing just like the last time they win big and keep thinking about how this time going to be their last shot just to cover this loss back to a green profit one and then they promise to quit as the final game but most of the times it is not. Nothing can beat this but a professional help might be the answer.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

I don't think the two are the same. Maybe there is some more general meaning for the two phrases, but for me chasing losses means that you can't take a break from your current gambling session and want to gamble until you recover again. This is usually a very dangerous situation as we become only focused on the amount we need to win and don't focus anymore on the risk we are taking for it. In many cases chasing losses is going to lead to higher losses. Finding closure for me means to accepting your current position and finding a compromise. This could be for example to tell ourselves to quit after out next win, even if the whole session is a loss. The approach is much more rational as it accepts the loss we made, but at least let's us end on a win. It can also help to focus on our overall bankroll and to make sure that we can always come back to gamble another day.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 02, 2023, 10:10:56 AM

Someone who is addicted to gambling to the extent that he sells assets or property just to gamble is very difficult to recover from, even doctors or psychologists will not be able to cure him.
If he can recover, he will not recover completely but rather forget about gambling and when in his daily life he still sees gambling activities he can easily return to gambling and become an addict again.

Gambling addiction must be treated as any other addiction, the first step is to realize that there is a problem, then talk about the problem and the last step is to work on a solution, but most of gambling addicts are chasing looses on the long road, and that never has a happy end.

Betting back to the topic, I don't think is the same, chasing losses is different, and the fact that someone says "I will be betting until win" is a risky move because bad streaks can be really bad and lead to a huge loss.

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Quote from: death69 on April 02, 2023, 07:55:00 AM

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 02, 2023, 05:22:58 AM

It is very rare for people to win more money than what they wagered at the casino and 9 out of 10 times, those gamblers come back again and lose all that money again. Tongue

Lol that's what gambling is called where gamblers will only deposit and lose money because the real winner is only the house.
Winning one or two but losing more than 10 times in gambling is common and felt by all gamblers without exception.
It's just that gamblers can minimize the number of losses by exercising financial self-control and greed because these three factors can easily destroy gamblers.
They experience defeat but are determined to come back to play because of curiosity and the existence of an addiction to gambling so that how much money they have lost does not make them give up and leave gambling.

Gambling is a wild rollercoaster of emotions. One moment you're winning, the next you're losing. It's a complicated love-hate situation—you're aware it's not good, but it's too tempting to resist. It's a fun game of luck, but it can quickly become too much. Managing your money wisely is essential to dodge big losses, but emotions can sometimes take over. That's why it's important to never risk more than you can handle losing. As the adage goes, "when the fun stops, stop." Gambling can be an enjoyable pastime, but always be sure to gamble with care.

That last statement is always the big mistake that most addictive gambler forgot, they push forward and keep trying to satisfy their lust to continue playing, they forget about caring with their health and finances as long as they are betting they think that they are really enjoying, unknowingly that when they should stop better to stop and not do anything against the situation to limit the possibility of moving forward and just comeback instead of stopping and moving away from gambling.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on April 02, 2023, 06:49:49 AM

Those gamblers that are doing this are so addicted to gambling that they can't control themselves anymore, which includes selling properties and getting into debt. This kind of person needs treatments from doctors and psychologists as they cannot cure themselves, as are his family. This needs support and attention. What's worse right now is that we can now gamble online, unlike before, when it was only in person, and that was known to gamblers. The effect of this is that people are becoming more addicted to gambling.

Someone who is addicted to gambling to the extent that he sells assets or property just to gamble is very difficult to recover from, even doctors or psychologists will not be able to cure him.
If he can recover, he will not recover completely but rather forget about gambling and when in his daily life he still sees gambling activities he can easily return to gambling and become an addict again.
In overcoming gambling addiction, no one has been able to provide a settlement solution so that gambling addiction can be cured and gone from some people who have already become addicts.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

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Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:50:21 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 02, 2023, 05:22:58 AM

It is very rare for people to win more money than what they wagered at the casino and 9 out of 10 times, those gamblers come back again and lose all that money again. Tongue

Lol that's what gambling is called where gamblers will only deposit and lose money because the real winner is only the house.
Winning one or two but losing more than 10 times in gambling is common and felt by all gamblers without exception.
It's just that gamblers can minimize the number of losses by exercising financial self-control and greed because these three factors can easily destroy gamblers.
They experience defeat but are determined to come back to play because of curiosity and the existence of an addiction to gambling so that how much money they have lost does not make them give up and leave gambling.

Gambling is a wild rollercoaster of emotions. One moment you're winning, the next you're losing. It's a complicated love-hate situation—you're aware it's not good, but it's too tempting to resist. It's a fun game of luck, but it can quickly become too much. Managing your money wisely is essential to dodge big losses, but emotions can sometimes take over. That's why it's important to never risk more than you can handle losing. As the adage goes, "when the fun stops, stop." Gambling can be an enjoyable pastime, but always be sure to gamble with care.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 02, 2023, 04:00:46 AM

Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2023, 01:46:40 PM

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.

There are also many people who like physical gambling, when they lose, they go to a friend's house or a loan shark, then pawn their assets and go back to gambling to continue the physical gambling. After all, all gambling is the same, whether online or physical, everything is almost the same and nothing is different. when people have started to become addicts, they will continue to play to return all the money that has been lost no matter what. it's a hard one to stop

Those gamblers that are doing this are so addicted to gambling that they can't control themselves anymore, which includes selling properties and getting into debt. This kind of person needs treatments from doctors and psychologists as they cannot cure themselves, as are his family. This needs support and attention. What's worse right now is that we can now gamble online, unlike before, when it was only in person, and that was known to gamblers. The effect of this is that people are becoming more addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 02, 2023, 05:22:58 AM

It is very rare for people to win more money than what they wagered at the casino and 9 out of 10 times, those gamblers come back again and lose all that money again. Tongue

Lol that's what gambling is called where gamblers will only deposit and lose money because the real winner is only the house.
Winning one or two but losing more than 10 times in gambling is common and felt by all gamblers without exception.
It's just that gamblers can minimize the number of losses by exercising financial self-control and greed because these three factors can easily destroy gamblers.
They experience defeat but are determined to come back to play because of curiosity and the existence of an addiction to gambling so that how much money they have lost does not make them give up and leave gambling.

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I think "closure" are not the primary reason why people wants to chase losses...

There are a lot of gamblers out there that wants to win the house and they cannot take it that the house always wins. They think if they gambled say $50 000 over the period that they gambled at that casino and they suddenly win $20 000 ...that they won against the house. Roll Eyes

It is very rare for people to win more money than what they wagered at the casino and 9 out of 10 times, those gamblers come back again and lose all that money again. Tongue

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 02, 2023, 04:00:46 AM

Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2023, 01:46:40 PM

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.

Correct. And the accessibility is what keeps them on coming back over and over.
Just open your computer or smartphone with an internet connection, then voila, you could play nonstop without thinking about the business closing time.
That is why gambling responsibly advertisements had been scattered on social media and the internet these days. We are prone to being gambling addicts anytime because of the easy accessibility of our hobbies.
It's not like someone is forcing us to go back even if we already lost our funds, it's the mentality of getting revenge and chasing the losses that make us return to our seats, deposit, and gamble again.

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Quote from: len01 on April 02, 2023, 12:34:36 AM

Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

I say these two words are the same as never stop gambling.
chasing defeat and seeking closure are the same thing. in the end the gambler will lose continuously and get big wins that are not worth the loss after that the gambler will continue to bet increasing the bet amount to get back all his losses but that is something in vain and lose even more.

it will go on and on never finding closure and always chasing defeat.

Chasing losses before quitting is like you want to feel satisfied that you somehow get back what you have lost before completely stop your gambling habit. But we know chasing your losses can cause further losses since winning is uncertain. So it's not a good idea if you really want to stop playing and move on.

Anyway, it's not easy to quit if you can't accept your past losses because chasing it doesn't mean you're seeking for closure. if you want to stop, you can self exclude yourself, if you want closure then go to a place where you can't access on internet to gamble online and far from friends that can attract you to play in physical casino.

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