Chasing looses Vs Finding closure: Any difference? - page 8.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

It depends on the gambler, if you're looking for closure you can depict that in some other ways. But if you think that chasing your losses are the ones you're signifying so that you'll find closure then that's it.
There are so many ways to think of but if that satisfies you as you try to find it, you think of it as your gateway to getting satisfied. Usually, with these chasing of losses, we just want to recover our losses and that's the main reason and there's no need for any closure because we always get back regardless of the result.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Well, I think it's just an excuse to continue what he used to. If you want closure do you have to win to recover your losses? (Remember that it would be hard also to stop if you already win huge since you might think you need to play again since you're lucky). What if you didn't manage to win according to plan, that means you'll continue until it happened?

There's no need for a closure, if you want to stop then stop. Don't give excuses because it just shows you really can't or you don't want to.

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There is no difference between the two and have similar important points.
Chasing losses vs finding closure are different expressions but basically have the same meaning, namely being able to recover previous losses.
But chasing losses is not recommended because if you fail, the losses experienced will be even greater so that it is better for every gambler to be more able to accept what he has lost.
The only way not to chase losses is to bet using money that he feels he can lose and as much as he can because then a gambler is unlikely to have any more thoughts about chasing losses.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 26, 2023, 09:09:40 AM

If you gamble and you lose, best not to gamble at that time again, because it can bring you more losses. You want to close the losses by winning little or you want to win all back can take more money from you. Gamble responsibly.

Forget about the loss, do not gamble again for that time, have good quality mindset back before gambling. Do not count what you lose as losses, use little amount you can afford to lose to gamble.

I guess, these are the best things to do but I must say as a gamble is not easy as one put it for all these things to put in play because most people really get affected by their losses and at that point loose control over what they are doing and feel caught out from the world trying to get back those looses, it only takes a well discipline man or gamble to overcome this losing syndrome.

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clearly , that the poster is only justifying His addiction and telling stories about Him not stopping gambling till he find closure but the fact that he decided to longer his playing means only that he wanted to continue playing while having task(of course that is only for Him)

Quote from: libert19 on March 26, 2023, 11:22:42 PM

Those who want to chase losses to look for closure are never able to quit, until they realize futility of doing so and put past losses to grave and just be done with it.

Indeed , In short? either addicted or going to be an addict .

limit your gambling , then you will understand the true meaning of playing and enjoying .

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Those who want to chase losses to look for closure are never able to quit, until they realize futility of doing so and put past losses to grave and just be done with it.

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I think they are basically the same, but with closure the emphasis is that the gambler will stop, permanently or temporarily, or stay away for a while after recovering the losses. It is possible that after recovering the starting amount, the gambler will log out of his online casino account or go out of the casino. With chasing losses, it is simply trying to bet more and more just to recover the losses. There is no closure that is sought. The goal is even to make a profit. But the losses will have to be recovered first.

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If he continues to gamble in order to recover his money from the casino, then he is chasing losses.
However, if he just wants to have another win before quit gambling, then it is not chasing losses (only if he does not keep in consideration the previous losses he has accumulated).

For example, if I lost 100$ to a casino and I wanted to stop gambling but I wanted to win one last time, then I would forget about the losses and try to win 20$ in a single session, so I can feel better, still knowing I am not getting back what I have lost.

So that is the only difference I can see.

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Chasing losses must not happen in one go; a day. I mean we all chase losses, but the difference is that some want to win immediately while others don't even realize that they are chasing losses, so they play the next day and rest after losing for the day. According to the link, I think the player doesn't understand his goal as a gambler, he just wants to win before he stops gambling for the day. That means he could end up feeding the house all his money. Because his aim is not to win, he won't stop if he wins a little amount. I think he is a compulsive gambler trying to justify his irresistible actions with a suitable term, finding closure. What stops him from going to bed after multiple loss. No need, OP, to bother over such terms from players like that, he'll need to find counseling too.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Having losses usually refers to the practice of carrying on with gambling in an effort to recover funds that have already been lost.
It's still gambling and there will be no changes in your luck even how much already you lost. The hope that luck will eventually change and the gambler will recover their losses often drives this behavior.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

I would say that the recovery attempt is only valid when you have not yet reached your spending limit.
See well...
If you planned to spend up to $500 on a game... you already spent $200, then you won $800 and then you lost it all, so you still have another $300 to try to make up for it.
I don't see anything wrong with that.

However, if you've already blown your limit when you finally win a lot of money and lose it right away, then it's time to accept your losses and stop playing for a while.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure.

Well, I think you have had enough answers on the subject. What I wanted to add is that ideally gambling sessions should be planned setting up a maximum amount of money and/or time and not exceed it. This is sometimes difficult to do because we get carried away by emotions. Precisely one thing that indicates that a certain person has problems with gambling is that they end up playing longer, and repeatedly losing more money than they had planned.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Nope, that closure can be almost anything the gambler prefers for example playing one more round then regardless of the outcome, he'll quit for good. But his closure of winning something back before walking away is indeed similar to chasing losses because the user already mentioned he can't win all of his losses back in one go. Also, these wins happen unexpectedly it can be in the next session or several sessions after and that mindset of wanting to win is likely going to give him more losses before he can get that one last win.

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Gambling until you win for "Closure" is just another way of saying that you don't accept losing as your final result. Of course there is a difference in chasing losses and finding closure. Closure means accepting your result and moving on. Chasing losses is the opposite, being that you refuse to accept your loss and continue to chase until you either win or find yourself in a position where you are screwed Roll Eyes

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Tf is a closure in gambling lmao. No need to put it like that, You're making something incredibly simple (and dumb) into something that "sounds" complicated or deep, it's simply you ( or the og reddit poster) chasing losses. He couldn't accept the fact that he lost, and since he had funds to gamble more (regardless of where it came from), he's simply going to continue till he is satisfied.

A closure, imo, is something that you chase when you can't understand something. The end result MAY be you still being unable to understand, but at least you looked up enough to the point where it wouldn't matter een if you look for more. Gambling isn't like that, it's easy to understand with clear cut rules and probability range (look it up, there's a lot of math nerds out there).

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

Chasing its like you want to gain back your losses for the time you gamble. So you do unwanted decision to either bet more bigger amount or continue to play even if you are having a bad day.

Finding closure in my understanding on that is he gamble depends on the mod set on his playing time if he win then he will not have doubt to turn down his game time so that he can take home his winnings and also the same when lossing so that no big lose will occur and try to recover those on next gambling time.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

I think this idea is one way to getting frustrated by gambling.
Chasing your loses is one bad way to gamble, you end up developing an addiction problem and you would be in debts if not properly handled.

You get a little some sense of yeah, I finally got some back when you win but, why lose all or most for just that. As a gambler, you need to have a time when you understand that your resources isn't supporting your gambling habit and you just quit the process for the day or over a period when you feel cleared by your resources to gamble again.

Chasing your loses for closure is like running after your own shadow. You would spend more time chasing the shadow which translates to more loses than when the time is noon when your shadow is just with you which translates to actual winning. There is no closure in that but, I guess its a perspective thing.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

Nah, I think he is just looking for excuse to continue his gambling habits, simple as that. For sure we have said that to ourselves as well, just one game and one more win or at least break even to quit and move on. But that is the case, because once we got that win and have the money back already, someone will whisper to you to continue. And that's where our emotions comes in, if it is not check, then we will continue because we feel lucky and greedy. And then when we lost, we go back to that same prayer of just one win and no more. So it's going to be cyclical and with that I don't agree or believed that gamblers are going to find some closure if they chase their losses and win it back.

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That's just wording it positively. The gist of it is, you're still chasing losses. No matter how fancy you construct the wordings are, or how well you think you did on clawing back in on the game, you still chased losses and that's it. You only wasted time if you managed to get even against the casino. And what if you just lost and lost? Then I don't think you'll ever achieve closure if that happens to you, unfortunately.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

I think you are right since his plan of playing until he wins doesn't guarantee that loses along thay way would be minimize. It is possible that he could be experiencing a lot of loses before he finally have that win so it isn't a win-win situation since you risk everything you have. It would be dilemma since if he wins quickly with low amount of loses, he might not that get that closure that he wants. So, probably, since you had made your choice to stop it, why not do it as soon as possible so that the risks would be low and it wont really hurt you financially.

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