Chasing looses Vs Finding closure: Any difference? - page 5.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 01, 2023, 09:50:38 PM

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Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day. Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

What happens is that when you are gambling at a physical casino you are subject to all kind of subtle techniques that the casino uses to make you to spend more, so before you know it you have lost all your money and you have no idea of how this could have happened, but when you are gambling online you are the one in control of your environment, and as such it is more difficult for online casinos to incite you to gamble with the same ease that a psychical casino can.

Yes! Inside physical casinos there are many factors that will drive you to keep playing the game, even you are already in the winning side the atmosphere will keep you to keep rolling and to keep chasing for more luck, on then you realized once losing streaks will hit you back and you will find yourself empty-handed!

Same with you. Online casinos have a lesser chance of pushing you unless you are already addicted and the word limitation is no longer effective. Chances are that you will also burn all your savings by keeping depositing and losing with the game you play.

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Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2023, 12:46:40 PM

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.

There are also many people who like physical gambling, when they lose, they go to a friend's house or a loan shark, then pawn their assets and go back to gambling to continue the physical gambling. After all, all gambling is the same, whether online or physical, everything is almost the same and nothing is different. when people have started to become addicts, they will continue to play to return all the money that has been lost no matter what. it's a hard one to stop

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Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2023, 12:46:40 PM

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

I say these two words are the same as never stop gambling.
chasing defeat and seeking closure are the same thing. in the end the gambler will lose continuously and get big wins that are not worth the loss after that the gambler will continue to bet increasing the bet amount to get back all his losses but that is something in vain and lose even more.

it will go on and on never finding closure and always chasing defeat.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

I think that's the worst thing any gambler can possibly do and most gamblers still do it no matter how hard they try to stop gambling when losing. If you intend to find closure by trying to gather your loses only God knows where thats gonna end you, you might end up losing your whole money so its better you just stop gamble when you are experiencing a losing spree because your emotions can also trigger you to loose more because at that moment you won't be thinking straight so its better to close the gamble because chasing your loses can only result to one outcome which is more loses.

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Quote from: Wapfika on March 30, 2023, 12:46:40 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on March 30, 2023, 12:36:23 PM

Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day. Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

What happens is that when you are gambling at a physical casino you are subject to all kind of subtle techniques that the casino uses to make you to spend more, so before you know it you have lost all your money and you have no idea of how this could have happened, but when you are gambling online you are the one in control of your environment, and as such it is more difficult for online casinos to incite you to gamble with the same ease that a psychical casino can.

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Quote from: bittraffic on March 30, 2023, 12:36:23 PM

Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day. Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 30, 2023, 11:24:13 AM

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

Indeed! valid point as there are always different approach and different perspectives in each individual and all are opinion based, we don't know or we can't push our own opinions with other people, especially those who thinks that they are doing it the right way, or the understanding and believe that they are in the right track.

It's an option that only gambler who can speak up with their own decision and with their actions.

Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day. Grin

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Quote from: Apocollapse on March 30, 2023, 04:14:25 AM

Quote from: Silberman on March 29, 2023, 10:33:28 PM

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And a good gambler have no problem if his ending gambling session is lost, while a gambler addict will chasing his losses until he make money, he doesn't care if he have gamble for 12 hours or using all of his money, he only want to make money.

It's really sick to see someone is really addicted to make money through gamble, he can't accept to learn new skill in order to increase or get a new job with better salary.

In your opinion, what are the criteria for a good gambler, because, in gambling or betting, winning and losing is commonplace. and we as gamblers, must know very well that this one hobby, has risks contained in it. not only losing money, but can change our psychology, especially those that lead to addiction.
addiction has several criteria, some addicts, do not really care about the money they get from gambling sessions. I mean, whatever victory they get doesn't make them satisfied. even most of them, just want to fulfill a high desire to gamble. yes, the money they win, the beginning of the end will be at stake again.

To be honest, i don't get the essence of a good gambler. as far as I know, gamble within the limits we can afford, without having to harm other people. plus, always avoid always chasing losses. moreover, as the OP stated in this thread. finding closure, is only part of the justification of someone who really only wants to recover defeat.
By the way, whatever you say, there's nothing wrong with that.

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Quote from: Silberman on March 29, 2023, 10:33:28 PM

Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

Indeed! valid point as there are always different approach and different perspectives in each individual and all are opinion based, we don't know or we can't push our own opinions with other people, especially those who thinks that they are doing it the right way, or the understanding and believe that they are in the right track.

It's an option that only gambler who can speak up with their own decision and with their actions.

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In gambling there will be wins and losses. But if someone loses again and again, a kind of reaction is born in him. He feels that he needs to recover his loss immediately but pursuing that loss recovery he has to lose everything. Those who can play with a break after losing or winning will have more winnings or can survive. Remember that luck is very important. Take a break in gambling is the key on days when you are repeatedly losing.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on March 30, 2023, 04:55:53 AM

I don't know what closure he means, but it is very shallow, and I don't really understand if it is about closure because if you are chasing losses, it is about getting your money back, and there are no feelings involved with it, only emotions of greed. For me, no matter the reason, chasing losses can make you lose more, so it is better to prevent them, and for sure, those who will say any reason for chasing it is just an excuse for sure

Finding closure if you think about it is like finding opportunities to be able to cover all losses.
It's just that not many gamblers can have this opportunity even only those who are so lucky can get it.
Of course, chasing losses is really not recommended, especially if when chasing losses there is already emotion and greed that controls oneself, then in the end, losing more can easily occur.
It would be nice if the gambler experiences a loss, he can stop betting and then leave the casino for a while. This seems easy to talk about, but difficult to implement.

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I don't know what closure he means, but it is very shallow, and I don't really understand if it is about closure because if you are chasing losses, it is about getting your money back, and there are no feelings involved with it, only emotions of greed. For me, no matter the reason, chasing losses can make you lose more, so it is better to prevent them, and for sure, those who will say any reason for chasing it is just an excuse for sure

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Quote from: Silberman on March 29, 2023, 10:33:28 PM

They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

And a good gambler have no problem if his ending gambling session is lost, while a gambler addict will chasing his losses until he make money, he doesn't care if he have gamble for 12 hours or using all of his money, he only want to make money.

It's really sick to see someone is really addicted to make money through gamble, he can't accept to learn new skill in order to increase or get a new job with better salary.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on March 28, 2023, 04:27:42 PM

Never heard about closure, or what it means until now, I tried Googling what closure really mean, and from the answers I got, it clearly explains that, chasing losses and seeking closure are not the same thing..

Chasing losses is more like revenge gambling, trying in all forceful way to recover what have been lost, the result of this is anger, disappointments, anxiety, anxiousness, this could lead to more losses, which would eventually end in regrets and even more regrets..

On the other hand, to seek closure, in simple terms means accepting your loses, but keep gambling without any negative emotions attached - this is clearly different from chasing loses.

The word closure isn't a gambling term, but it is just an English word that basically means to close something, and what the guy on Reddit was referring to by using this word to end his gaming session with a winning bet or maybe after winning some of his lost money back, which is basically either chasing his losses or trying to win a lot of bets both of which aren't really things one should go after in gambling.

So basically he was just asking if he should do that and win some of his money back to have a good closure of his gambling session or just stop right there. So closure doesn't mean accepting your losses and keeping gambling but it means closing down or ending the gambling either by accepting your losses or being on the winning side.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

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Quote from: m2017 on March 29, 2023, 09:37:59 AM

Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button

Attempts to return the lost will only aggravate the position of the gambler and he will leave even more of his money in the casino. It's like chasing a shadow: the more you lose, the more you want to return, and this gives rise to new losses. A vicious circle of player addiction from which it is almost impossible to break out on your own, if it has already come to this.

In gambling, you can't let your emotions take over. Either stick to the strategy and increase the deposit, or act thoughtlessly and drain the entire deposit. That guy's story on Reddit is a case in point.

It is true. It may be difficult to keep away from it once it is done. Chasing losses had always been the main problem of any gambler, it's the ego that tells us that we must win no matter what and this is the reason why gambling businesses will just keep on piling up. They know the incoming money from this industry is a nonstop cycle too due to the fact that gamblers tend to like having their revenge once their losses are soaring.

There must be a game plan. A strategy. A budget. All of those will play a big role to keep one gambler's discipline intact. Bring only what you can afford to lose but with how accessible gambling platforms are today, it must be harder for them to keep the discipline. It's always open, there's no such thing as closing time.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

I actually call this the "gambler's cycle" where a person would gamble again in order to regain his losses.

When a person gambles and regardless of the outcome whether he wins or losses, the initial decision is for him/her to gamble again. He/she would want to gamble again in order to test his luck in the event if he wins. Furthermore, he would also attempt to gamble again if he losses in hopes of recovering the loss he just incurred, thereby creating a situation and an endless cycle where he would consistently gamble in the process.

This kind of cycle is potentially destructive and dangerous especially if you lack the necessary discipline to accept your losses as part of the gambling system. That is why if this happens, the person has to force himself to get out of such position (e.g. limiting the cash he brings, etc.) to break this cycle.

I can say, we are all guilty of such feeling at one point. But it is right that if you can't contain yourself, you will lose in the process. You'll be in big trouble if you will continue chasin losses. If you are still into gambling, I don't think you can find closure with what you lost. That's a never-ending cycle if you want to keep up such kind of mindset.

That's how the cycle works in gambling so we need to correct each wrong decision we make upon playing since if we always bring up that attitude when playing well provably it will not end up good to us. We need to discipline ourselves towards like setting boundaries on what are the triggering scenarios we need to stop so that we can think about sticking on it and create some gameplan on gambling.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on March 29, 2023, 06:01:56 PM

Quote from: Alphakilo on March 26, 2023, 08:05:03 AM

I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

I actually call this the "gambler's cycle" where a person would gamble again in order to regain his losses.

When a person gambles and regardless of the outcome whether he wins or losses, the initial decision is for him/her to gamble again. He/she would want to gamble again in order to test his luck in the event if he wins. Furthermore, he would also attempt to gamble again if he losses in hopes of recovering the loss he just incurred, thereby creating a situation and an endless cycle where he would consistently gamble in the process.

This kind of cycle is potentially destructive and dangerous especially if you lack the necessary discipline to accept your losses as part of the gambling system. That is why if this happens, the person has to force himself to get out of such position (e.g. limiting the cash he brings, etc.) to break this cycle.

I can say, we are all guilty of such feeling at one point. But it is right that if you can't contain yourself, you will lose in the process. You'll be in big trouble if you will continue chasin losses. If you are still into gambling, I don't think you can find closure with what you lost. That's a never-ending cycle if you want to keep up such kind of mindset.

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Quote from: Oceat on March 29, 2023, 05:59:04 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on March 29, 2023, 05:46:09 PM

Both chasing looses and finding closure are on the same page. When a gambler looses in his game he tends to gamble more with the intention to recover his looses with no gaurantee of winning, if he looses he will continue to gamble which leads to chasing looses. He may say to him self that when he wins he will not gamble again. This time he is finding closure that he is not certain about. Either ways, you are either chasing looses or finding closure.
At this point you are at the edge of loosing it all.
Conclusively, you are either chasing looses and finding closure.

Yeah right, it's almost the same since they are not in their right mind during that time and what they need is a fresh air for a moment instead of pushing their luck to the limit. Either way it's not really benefitting to them they just added more problem instead of minimizing their losses. People need to learn when to leave when it's not getting them anywhere especially on chasing losses which is not recommendable at all, so does the martingale strategy.

If you are a type of person whose really that impulsive when it comes to gambling then its better not to make yourself that getting involved with this kind of activity.You would definitely be losing up tons
of money along the way and if you arent that good on handling out your finances then you would be ending up on getting wrecked and would really be ending up on holding up for long time.This is
why it is really not that suggestable for those people who do have this kind of emotional impulsiveness because it would create that negative outcome if you dont have
the good control and discipline towards yourself.

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