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bitmover

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Quote from: PrivacyG on November 28, 2023, 06:57:36 PM

Quote from: bitmover on November 28, 2023, 06:40:44 PM

If you find you have some coins mined by satoshi, or from some 10000 pizza, that are worth 2 usd but someone is willing to pay 2000. Would that make you sad? Wouldn't you sell them for some fungible ideology?

Let people do whatever they want. Let them buy or collect whatever they like. Free market.. freedom

This was my point. Free market and freedom but it is important to think about consequences too. Selling a particular Bitcoin or Satoshi as a 'different Satoshi / Bitcoin' than the rest is breaking fungibility. I think it is selfish to agree to doing this only for your own benefit when there are Authorities trying to do precisely the same thing but with an ill intent.

The whole point is that the protocol is permissionless.

If someone wants to pay 2000 for a 2 usd sats, I am willing to sell because they are all the same to me. I need nobody permission to sell, and the buyer also do not have to ask any permission to pay whatever him wants.

Tainted coins are already real, whether you like it or not. It is up to you to find ways to make your coins clean again before sending to centralized parties which will analyze them.

adaseb

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It’s interesting but I won’t use it like others stated here for privacy reasons.

However I am pretty sure that many of the sats out there most likely had some type of Silk Road origins. The amount of bitcoins that went thru Silk Road in those days is huge and even with those confiscated by the government many of them out there has some connection to Silk Road transactions one way or another.

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Quote from: bitmover on November 28, 2023, 10:49:26 AM

I just discovered this nice web site which lets you know if you hold any rare satoshi

I think the word you want to use is coincidental. All satoshis are equally rare. No satoshi is more rare than any other. They are all unique (at least when enumerated with Ordinals). There is only one of each.

Furthermore, the value of a coincidence is purely subjective. A coincidence that seems important to you might be unimportant to someone else.

Quote from: bitmover on November 28, 2023, 10:49:26 AM

I discovered I have some sats from the 10000 btc pizza. Sadly, it doesn't look to be worth anything

Also, note that Ordinals is not the only way to enumerate satoshis. There are other methods. So, if you go to a different site, it might tell you that you do not have a satoshi that was used in the pizza transaction.

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Quote from: South Park on November 28, 2023, 04:27:13 PM

This may become a thing on the future, we already have people collecting coins or paper money and they buy it for an amount above its nominal value or buy it above its value when considering its precious metals content, then it would not be that surprising if investors began to buy bitcoin not only for its superior characteristics compared to fiat currencies, but they may begin to do so also as a collectible, and coins related to some iconic events on this market could become a target for that kind of collector.

But it doesn't make sense though to spend on a digital item that doesn't have a unique identity and for the collectible we have NFTs anyway I am still curious about how they determine the rare sats. And how it is even possible to scan all the data in just a fraction of a second, I doubt the accuracy of the site and another creative way to collect user details.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on November 28, 2023, 10:59:48 AM

For curiosity, use it is acceptable but use it with Tor connection. Security wise.

It's not worth it using it even with Tor. If you input one address, then you won't give away any information, but check two or more addresses and the owner of the site can assume that they belong to the same owner and they can build a database of wallets with addresses that were previously unconnected.

To be safe you need to make a new Tor connection after every request and disable Javascript.

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Quote from: bitmover on November 28, 2023, 06:40:44 PM

If you find you have some coins mined by satoshi, or from some 10000 pizza, that are worth 2 usd but someone is willing to pay 2000. Would that make you sad? Wouldn't you sell them for some fungible ideology?

Let people do whatever they want. Let them buy or collect whatever they like. Free market.. freedom

If a website started segregating Bitcoin into 'Tainted' and 'Clean' offering a Market for these and 'Clean' Bitcoin price has a premium. And you find out your Bitcoin is 'Clean'. Would you sell yours with a premium to fools who would buy into that crap?

This was my point. Free market and freedom but it is important to think about consequences too. Selling a particular Bitcoin or Satoshi as a 'different Satoshi / Bitcoin' than the rest is breaking fungibility. I think it is selfish to agree to doing this only for your own benefit when there are Authorities trying to do precisely the same thing but with an ill intent.

Then in the future you see people not willing to buy my Bitcoin because my Bitcoin is not cleaned up so I have to have less purchasing power because of some people who buy into the Clean / Tainted B S while the rest get 100 percent purchasing power because they showed their bum in 360 to their local Authority so they could have shiny clean Bitcoin.

What is the difference between separating Bitcoin into random Bitcoin and rare Pizza Bitcoin or Authorities separating my Bitcoin into Clean and Tainted? Same thing different purpose.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 28, 2023, 06:14:51 PM

Still very interesting though how they instantly knows that you have something rare in you.

math* (well kind of) and having a database of addresses that they already worked out paths to their current suggested address of current UTXOset owner

they already know that each block has 1 rare sat (first sat per block)
so they know 818k blocks creations is 818k rare sats. and using UTXO spending now they can follow that blockreward forward as it was spent over time(based on their bad economics of output path) to their suggested current holder address

there are also at block 818k a max total sats of 1955000000000000sats meaning under 1,9550,000 palindromes which they can also check UTXO spend suggested paths for current address location

*im ignoring the bad math of ordinals economic path suggestion and lack of understanding basic economics, which breaks the protocol anyways just to give a basic idiots guide to them having a database of 2,773,000 current addresses holding "rare sat"

bitmover

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Quote from: PrivacyG on November 28, 2023, 06:08:23 PM

Did not even know this was a thing. Rare or not, Bitcoin must continue to be fungible however and we can not separate 'rare' from non rare Bitcoin. Sadly for bitmover, fortunately for every body in the Bitcoin Network.

I don't think you get the point of this.

If you find you have some coins mined by satoshi, or from some 10000 pizza, that are worth 2 usd but someone is willing to pay 2000. Would that make you sad? Wouldn't you sell them for some fungible ideology?

Let people do whatever they want. Let them buy or collect whatever they like. Free market.. freedom

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Quote from: bitmover on November 28, 2023, 10:49:26 AM

I just discovered this nice web site which lets you know if you hold any rare satoshi

https://magiceden.io/ordinals/discover-raresats

I discovered I have some sats from the 10000 btc pizza. Sadly, it doesn't look to be worth anything

Do you have anything ? Grin

Nah, I don't have any,

Still very interesting though how they instantly knows that you have something rare in you. In any case, it won't change a bit in my opinion, BTC=BTC no matter what angle you look at it.

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Did not even know this was a thing. Rare or not, Bitcoin must continue to be fungible however and we can not separate 'rare' from non rare Bitcoin. Sadly for bitmover, fortunately for every body in the Bitcoin Network.

Now I wonder if there are people who would not move their rare Bitcoin and collected all the diverse rare Coins possible. Would THAT Address be worth anything? Maybe it would be for some body who also collects! The point is we should try our best to NOT make Bitcoin non fungible.

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There are several sites that are dedicated to this type of "things" but you always have to ask yourself why to know and why to put information where perhaps it is not necessary to do so.

This address :https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/
The credit of a fellow member of our local board, (Ma 40), finds "dirty" addresses is almost the same thing. Wink

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Quote from: avikz on November 28, 2023, 12:17:19 PM

It's good to use a multicity VPN for such fun platforms. I see someone has recommended using TOR. But I believe that's not really required to have such complexity.

VPN and Tor are different but if you use VPN for accessing such fun platforms, why use Tor is something can not be considered, really?

If you only want to explore a funny platform, don't want to use VPN or Tor, you can randomly pick a Bitcoin address from blockchain explorers and paste it to check. Check that randomly chosen address and explore the platform. It will not harm your privacy.

List of useful Bitcoin block explorers.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on November 28, 2023, 11:35:05 AM

Quote from: Lucius on November 28, 2023, 11:28:24 AM

but I wonder who are the people who are willing to pay for something like that?

There are more crazy people than we imagine out there who is willing t spend their money on useless things. And we can find hundreds of lists like this

10 Worthless Items Sold for an Insane Amount of Money

So, you never know there may be rich guys out there who want to buy the piece of stats for more than its actual market value.

This may become a thing on the future, we already have people collecting coins or paper money and they buy it for an amount above its nominal value or buy it above its value when considering its precious metals content, then it would not be that surprising if investors began to buy bitcoin not only for its superior characteristics compared to fiat currencies, but they may begin to do so also as a collectible, and coins related to some iconic events on this market could become a target for that kind of collector.

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By pressing right click, the site opens quickly without having to wait long after switching to a new tab. The appearance is very simple but I don't dare enter the Bitcoin address into the search field.
I was curious to continue trying to search for other things like connet wallet but I didn't dare to do it because I was afraid of something I didn't want to happen.

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I was gonna check but with the recent cases of hacking i’d rather not

there are a lot of websites or links that could get you in trouble and putting my address in the website sounds dangerous consider me paranoid but it’s better to be safe Wink

anyway a bitcoin is still a bitcoin, rare or not, it still has the same value either way

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Quote from: nakamura12 on November 28, 2023, 11:47:43 AM

I agree with other forum members that even though you have rare Satoshi or Bitcoin for example, it's value won't be higher or lower but if there are people who likes or wants to have that Satoshi like a collector then maybe he/she might/will buy it much higher price (who knows). For me, it doesn't matter if it's rare or not because Bitcoin is Bitcoin even though you have rare Satoshi or not. There could be people like that in Cryptocurrency or maybe not unless someone will tell us if there are people like that.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but as far as I can see you can only see that there are bits that have been use to buy the legendary pizza, you don't know exactly bit it is after a transaction, so there is nothing to collect here and it is just purely for decoration. I doubt you can extract those every single bit that have been used to the purchase. And well, we might all have rare satoshi that have been gathered for historic exchanges heist before, who knows?!

Hopefully it won't be bigger in the future, I hate to think that bitcoin have a rarity like fiat Roll Eyes

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Quote from: avikz on November 28, 2023, 12:17:19 PM

It's good for fun! But it doesn't increase the value of your Satoshi in any way as you can't control the Satoshi at your end. But keep security at the top and you may not want to disclose a lot of information about you. It's good to use a multicity VPN for such fun platforms. I see someone has recommended using TOR. But I believe that's not really required to have such complexity.

@nakamura12 - how do you ensure that you are sending only rare Satoshis to the receiver in case you find a buyer? I would like to know.

You can use coin control to move an especific satoshi. You can do it in electrum wallet.

https://coinguides.org/coin-control-spend-specific-utxo/

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ORDINALS, are the new ICOs, people it's a scam, they are showing you what you think has any value because others are telling you, but it doesn't have any value. Just like OP says, they worth nothing. This is the same as water molecules, why would you be needing a tracker to know whether the next glass of water you are drinking has any molecules from someone's piss from 200 years ago or not?

Imagine if we had that as pissdinals, I wonder what could go wrong in that scenario.
~energize.

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not interested in any value or rarity because the ordinals is BS
but one of my addresses has 2 palindromes.. oh well, dont care, moving on

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Quote from: avikz on November 28, 2023, 12:17:19 PM

@nakamura12 - how do you ensure that you are sending only rare Satoshis to the receiver in case you find a buyer?

Honestly, that I am not sure on how or what to do but if the website that OP found is helpful or useful then I would use it to know if I have rare satoshi and I think it will only let you know if you have rare satoshi and ensuring that you send the rare Satoshi is that I don't know as I have said earlier but if that's the case then it's better to send all the Satoshi if it's in small amount. Anyway, it is only "what if" about some people being a Cryptocurrency collectors that collects rare Satoshi. In short, I can't answer on how to ensure that it is the rare satoshi that I have sent if I found a buyer.

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