China will rule world as economy king after crisis end? - page 8.

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Quote from: silversurfer1958 on April 26, 2020, 10:26:22 AM

I am not entirely with your opinion. It is clear that this disease is the main cause of recession worldwide. All nations suffer loss of money and human lives. China has suffered damages to the US and Europe for failing to prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading around the world. I have heard that many American and European factories will withdraw from China to other countries like Vietnam and Mexico. Thus, China will lose a significant income. And they will face a severe economic crisis after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Moving their factories to Vietnam or Mexico will just make more losses while they can just enjoy the cheap labor in China. US and EU had made a lot of enemies in the past which involves bombing. China isn't into bombing and killing, they are into business. What they should just be doing it to not fight the development.

Let's just accept the fact that China is better with what they are doing. Every other country doesn't have to like China but rather build a trading relationship with China.

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I am not entirely with your opinion. It is clear that this disease is the main cause of recession worldwide. All nations suffer loss of money and human lives. China has suffered damages to the US and Europe for failing to prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading around the world. I have heard that many American and European factories will withdraw from China to other countries like Vietnam and Mexico. Thus, China will lose a significant income. And they will face a severe economic crisis after the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Quote from: South Park on April 25, 2020, 03:45:38 PM

The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on selling stuff to Europe and the US, do you really think they are not going to be affected if no one buys the stuff they produce? Their internal market is never going to be enough to fill that demand, so their factories will have to reduce their production and in may cases they will have to close down affecting China in the process, make no mistake no one is going to win this and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

It is natural that the consumption of goods that China previously exported will be greatly reduced after the crisis. But the economies of other countries will also shrink. Therefore, even after reducing production, the Chinese economy will look stronger.

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Quote from: Sadlife on April 26, 2020, 07:29:03 AM

It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.

Probably so. There had been lots of theories about this pandemic. One article is that the Wuhan lab that was studying viruses was originally from the US which Obama had moved to Wuhan and this is what I've read. This crisis is purposely made to reset the world as some articles were saying. We just can't take the news that were saying by all these media because it seem like they are all paid to do thier lies.

There are many conspiracies in the internet, many says that the virus originated from the laboratory of Wuhan where it is on purposed because they cannot beat USA in war. They say that the world war III already started and the china used virus to dominated the world. The next superpower is the China and it is sad to say that the economy of USA is starting to collapsing and there is now a transition of power that is currently happening and we should be aware of it.

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Quote from: Sadlife on April 26, 2020, 07:29:03 AM

It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.

Probably so. There had been lots of theories about this pandemic. One article is that the Wuhan lab that was studying viruses was originally from the US which Obama had moved to Wuhan and this is what I've read. This crisis is purposely made to reset the world as some articles were saying. We just can't take the news that were saying by all these media because it seem like they are all paid to do thier lies.

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It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.

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Quote from: naaimmd on April 15, 2020, 10:45:45 AM

As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

China is the world's first economy already.
There was not any need for the coronavirus outbreak to destroy the other countries and bring China to the top. The fact now is that China is going to strengthen its position as the strongest economy in the world.

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Quote from: South Park on April 25, 2020, 03:45:38 PM

and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

On the other opinion to this, I would agree that if China becomes the world power, it is because of the effect of covid-19. Example is that, China has gone back to business of supplying medical support to countries of the world and this means money is coming to them. Also recognition as some smaller countries would see them as helper and there economy will start going faster more than other countries.

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Quote from: naaimmd on April 15, 2020, 10:45:45 AM

As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on selling stuff to Europe and the US, do you really think they are not going to be affected if no one buys the stuff they produce? Their internal market is never going to be enough to fill that demand, so their factories will have to reduce their production and in may cases they will have to close down affecting China in the process, make no mistake no one is going to win this and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

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For sure China will be rule the world, they get the virus and maybe the vaccine. One thing is curious, is that in Europe are those who have sold masks and other medical materials. If not to dominate the world at least to get in the head.

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Quote from: verita1 on April 25, 2020, 09:45:15 AM

If you read the story of Li Wenliang the doctor who warned of the new Coronavirus in Wuhan. It gives you outrage again to see all the havoc that Covid19 has wreaked on all levels of humanity. Because around the Coronavirus, everything has been seen, too many errors, cover-ups, and private interests.

The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus. (06/02/2020)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0

The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.

It would take extraordinary investigation to prove all these. After this pandemic and how China had helped countries recover from the pandemic, it may really be impossible to impose some sanctions on them even if proven. The economy of China had grown this big that almost all rely on them already, they are the ones going to give sanctions instead to countries giving headaches to them.

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Quote from: verita1 on April 25, 2020, 09:45:15 AM

The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.

The reason there is not much recorded death than the rest of the countries is because they are not providing the real data and they are covering up everything, can you logically believe what they are telling when the entire world is struggling and they are providing far less patients and mortality. To get out of the crisis is not easy like we think, most of the countries have lockdowned the manufacturing sector as well as the retail sector and the number of busines that will go bankrupt is really high around the globe and how those can be recovered will be a huge struggle.

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If you read the story of Li Wenliang the doctor who warned of the new Coronavirus in Wuhan. It gives you outrage again to see all the havoc that Covid19 has wreaked on all levels of humanity. Because around the Coronavirus, everything has been seen, too many errors, cover-ups, and private interests.

The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus. (06/02/2020)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0

The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.

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This could be +1 point to theory than china created this virus

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Quote from: ololajulo on April 24, 2020, 06:04:18 PM

if this pandemic came because of the tussle of top economy head from China, the target market take over may stumble. The country is exploiting the need for the underdeveloped and developed country especially those with crude oil or other attractive materials to form allies and access their money. however, dont they dont provide any attract incentive and citizens are hostile to the other tribe. lso language will always be barrier.

Showing some friendly styles providing loans or other types of attracting offers to other underdeveloped countries seems to be effective to earn more trust from leaders who in need of such opportunities. China playing it right and forming allies seems to be effective, though being the king would hurt the butts of those super nations and can create panics and start a world wars.

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Quote from: cosmofly on April 25, 2020, 12:45:20 AM

that could happen if the US could not control this disease in the next 3 months. many businesses in the US will go bankrupt and debt will increase more debt, they will be destroyed soon and China will take this opportunity to rise. In fact, China's government has been on a journey to take over the world by lending money to many countries to build buildings and services. they have enough precedent to rise above all and America should be alert at this stage.

this is all our fault from the beginning, we are too trivial and friendly to the outside world, in fact, our great enemy is making a devastating scenario. the United States will be destroyed from the inside slowly but surely, we are not aware that our biggest enemy is communist China, I am not here talking about politics but that's the reality that's happening, we just don't see it

China has its own agenda at the moment, and I am very sure that in the next few months we will see the true form of China, just look at this time China became a WHO donor after the US stopped funding to WHO, the real devil will soon be seen, hopefully, the world will realize

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Quote from: naaimmd on April 15, 2020, 10:45:45 AM

As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

that could happen if the US could not control this disease in the next 3 months. many businesses in the US will go bankrupt and debt will increase more debt, they will be destroyed soon and China will take this opportunity to rise. In fact, China's government has been on a journey to take over the world by lending money to many countries to build buildings and services. they have enough precedent to rise above all and America should be alert at this stage.

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Quote from: naaimmd on April 15, 2020, 10:45:45 AM

As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

I don’t know if that’s going to happen. I have been seeing a lot of people saying that China were behind the breakout of covid-19 and are the ones that released it. To be sincere, if that’s true, then do not deserve to be in the top position anywhere, because that shows evil and wickedness.

I am not fully sure about what people has been saying and whether it is true, but I have also seen those that talks about it in this forum, any country that will do such a thing to others doesn’t deserve anything to good. I would just try to believe that this is not true, until when I get to know about it.

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that might not be the case as they will have trust issue since this issue of coronavirus started from their country. Germany and I think also Japan are currently evacuating their businesses from China and giving them soft loans. A lot will happened after we overcome this current challenge that have stagnant businesses all over the world.

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if this pandemic came because of the tussle of top economy head from China, the target market take over may stumble. The country is exploiting the need for the underdeveloped and developed country especially those with crude oil or other attractive materials to form allies and access their money. however, dont they dont provide any attract incentive and citizens are hostile to the other tribe. lso language will always be barrier.

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