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Topic: Chipmixer campaign by the constant pressure of the hypocrite? - page 3. (Read 1411 times)

legendary
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https://bpip.org
I already gave you the article that confirmed mixers are illegal.

No. There was an article about a lawsuit against a Bitcoin mixer. Not sure how that story ended but someone (even the government) filing a lawsuit and alleging things doesn't make it a fact.

But let's take this one step forward. If murdering others is legal in my jurisdiction does that mean I can murder anyone and even promote guides on how one should kill others? You have to think at moral level, if something is helping scammers get away, just don't promote it.

Let's take it one step backward out of the fallacy land. Privacy is not murder. Scammers would get away without mixers just fine (using XMR for example) and not having mixers would limit the choices for legal uses while doing nothing to stop the scams.
full member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 140
Source please that confirms mixers are legal? I would never do the same argument ever again, the moment I can see how mixers are legal.

The burden of proof is on you. In my jurisdiction there is no law saying "Bitcoin mixers are illegal", or "Bitcoin transactions are illegal", or "owning a car wash is illegal" or any such thing so you're demanding to prove a negative. Prove that you're not Satoshi Nakamoto.

First thing, you are one of the few forum members who at least make sense with their replies so I don't mean to fight you.

I already gave you the article that confirmed mixers are illegal. But let's take this one step forward. If murdering others is legal in my jurisdiction does that mean I can murder anyone and even promote guides on how one should kill others? You have to think at moral level, if something is helping scammers get away, just don't promote it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Source please that confirms mixers are legal? I would never do the same argument ever again, the moment I can see how mixers are legal.

The burden of proof is on you. In my jurisdiction there is no law saying "Bitcoin mixers are illegal", or "Bitcoin transactions are illegal", or "owning a car wash is illegal" or any such thing so you're demanding to prove a negative. Prove that you're not Satoshi Nakamoto.
full member
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To the blind members who might come and dare me to come with my main account, this is for you.
Please tell me you see the irony of using an alt account to protect your privacy while you rail against a service designed to protect your privacy.

Isn't it even more ironic that you, who is promoting and supporting a service that mixes coins and helps scammers, is fighting against scammers on the forum?




Source please that confirms mixers are legal? I would never do the same argument ever again, the moment I can see how mixers are legal.



Yes, the pressure campaigns against CM are all about money. CM pays a lot more than any other campaign. Part of this could be that CM has so many spots, so it is well represented in many different communities in the forum. Most other campaigns have only a handful of spots, and most campaign managers do not put as much effort into trying to maximize exposure throughout the forum.

I think some of your own accounts are under the campaign that makes you advocate for them without facts and since you have a history of selling and buying accounts in bulk, lying and even faking bans on the forum, there is no reason to trust you either.

Don't reply on threads unless you have something new to add, just licking CM's balls will not get you a slot, I know DS that much.

legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 2226
Signature space for rent
So many threads regarding Chipmixer, does it really necessary? Whoever has been applying to the campaign read the campaign rules. And Darkstar clearly stated that he has the right to remove anyone for any reason.

10. I reserve the right to disqualify any post, for any reason towards payment. This is for insurance purposes; I'm happy to talk/debate about whether a post should/shouldn't count over PM.

11. I reserve the right to remove anyone, for any reason from the campaign.

12. I reserve the right to change the rules for new pay rounds.
The above quote proves that Darkstar isn't obliged to explain why he removed someone. If the company doesn't have problems with management then we don't have the right to ask such questions. A company hires someone when he has faith in a person. We shouldn't interfere with any manager if he isn't abusing the forum rules and not abusing the trust system.
copper member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 489
Stop the war!
Do you seriously think that some lazy noobs are spending $150k-200k per week just for fun to advertise on a forum with 600 live users? It's not even funny. More like hypocrisy.

I don't usually go down to the level of internet trolls like you, but if you're already attacking someone for something, then at least don't exaggerate the numbers. CM is at 56 participants, and the maximum amount that can be paid to them per week is 56 x $1200 = $67200 assuming everyone makes 50 posts.
If you have enough intelligence at all to find a CM spreadsheet, look at the exact amount - much less than what you are falsely presenting.


I'm not going to sort out the sorts of shit. Just took the words of one of your gang
I am talking 100s and 100s of Bitcoins. Before the payments changed, there used to be payments of over 150k-200k$ every week.

You there figure it out among yourself how much you get paid.

Another notorious lie is that the forum has only 600 active/live users, currently that number is suspicious link removed.

I'm also not interested in any shit-services about this forum. I use official information https://bitcointalk.org/SSI.php?ssi_function=whosOnline
legendary
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Blackjack.fun-Free Raffle-Join&Win $50🎲
Do you seriously think that some lazy noobs are spending $150k-200k per week just for fun to advertise on a forum with 600 live users? It's not even funny. More like hypocrisy.

I don't usually go down to the level of internet trolls like you, but if you're already attacking someone for something, then at least don't exaggerate the numbers. CM is at 56 participants, and the maximum amount that can be paid to them per week is 56 x $1200 = $67200 assuming everyone makes 50 posts.
If you have enough intelligence at all to find a CM spreadsheet, look at the exact amount - much less than what you are falsely presenting.

Another notorious lie is that the forum has only 600 active/live users, currently that number is 5 times higher.
copper member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 489
Stop the war!
To the blind members who might come and dare me to come with my main account, this is for you.
Please tell me you see the irony of using an alt account to protect your privacy while you rail against a service designed to protect your privacy.

The irony is that a privacy-protecting service sponsors people who are looking for irony in protecting the privacy.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2268
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To the blind members who might come and dare me to come with my main account, this is for you.
Please tell me you see the irony of using an alt account to protect your privacy while you rail against a service designed to protect your privacy.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
Chipmixer is getting targeted because it pays shitloads of money and everybody wants to grab some of big pie. It is as simple as this.

If a $50/week paying sig campaign's manager was not hiring a certain group of people, nobody would really give an f about it.

When the pay number goes significantly up, it takes people's attention. Jealousy makes a new ATH.

I am not telling these because I am trying to look cool to DS. I don't even send an application there anymore.

CM can go down any moment. Stop counting somebody else's money
copper member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 489
Stop the war!

Every time someone comes up with a "mixers are bad" I can come up with a "mixers are for people too lazy to do it themselves way"


Do you seriously think that some lazy noobs are spending $150k-200k per week just for fun to advertise on a forum with 600 live users? It's not even funny. More like hypocrisy.
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
And yet it comes back to trolls who do not understand how BTC and cryptos and exchanges work

Although a bit OT, last I heard [I did not check] most darknet markets are using XMR instead of BTC since it's way more anonymous.

Back to the subject on hand, there seems to be a bit of a loop going on here and although people seem to agree with me they still come back to CM is for "bad people"

No, it's for lazy people. There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.
Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

When I get above a certain amount of BTC in my wallet from selling stuff here, payments (if any) from any sig campaign I am in I used to "anonymize" my coins in a very simple way not outlined above but.... Take funds and add to lightning wallet over a weekend or whenever fees were low, create invoice on another device with a different lightning wallet connect to different location. Generate a few invoices to break up the payments and then withdraw to on chain funds. Also untraceable.

Now I don't do that anymore but I could again quite easily.

Every time someone comes up with a "mixers are bad" I can come up with a "mixers are for people too lazy to do it themselves way"

As for the advertising side, did you ever stop to think that since there were people with sigs in certain language sections and now there are not that CM took a look after the people in those sections were out of the campaign and said "look, no difference in the number of users / amount of BTC mixed" and said to DS "yeah we don't need people from there"

-Dave
copper member
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Stop the war!

For your case in particular if you want to claim that a section of the forum is racist then it's not enough to list English and Russian users, you also need to find people of other boards and somehow prove that they are "racist".

Maybe there are wonderful people here. But in Russian there is a saying: "a fly in the ointment spoils a barrel of honey". So (6 / 75) * 100 = 8% tar makes DefaultTrust system unbearably smelly.
These are only people (do not count "RIPed" Lauda and TMAN here) with whom I had to deal with in one way or another. Tip of the iceberg i'm sure
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org

You forgot Spanish, French, Portuguese, German speakers, etc.

When you make an example it's supposed to represent all sides.

Do you think it's because I'm a racist?

No it's because you can't make a generalization out of a small number of users. You claim:

This section of the forum is a bunch of hypocrites and sycophants.

This implies an overwhelming majority of people posting in Reputation are "hypocrites and sycophants". There are around a hundred users who recently posted there if you do a quick count of the most recent few pages, however you only list 6 when this number suggests you should have at least 75.

For your case in particular if you want to claim that a section of the forum is racist then it's not enough to list English and Russian users, you also need to find people of other boards and somehow prove that they are "racist".
copper member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 489
Stop the war!

You forgot Spanish, French, Portuguese, German speakers, etc.

When you make an example it's supposed to represent all sides.

Do you think it's because I'm a racist?
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
English speaking

Russian speaking

You forgot Spanish, French, Portuguese, German speakers, etc.

When you make an example it's supposed to represent all sides.
copper member
Activity: 1554
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Stop the war!
I think that Russians do not write in this section because they are sick of this section. Writing here either naive like me, or those who want to get into the trust for their own selfish purposes.
This section of the forum is a bunch of hypocrites and sycophants. The most striking examples:

English speaking

LoyceV - a man without brain. Acts strictly according to algorithms. If the algorithm trusts the person, then LoyceV also trusts the person too. If the algorithm trusts Ratimov, and Ratimov said,
that I am an corner's alt - it means I am an corner's alt! Super logic of the most trusted user yes?!

suchmoon - sponsor and best friend of LoyceV. If LoyceV said that I am the corner's alt, then I am the corner's alt. Logics! And since I am an corner's alt, then it is obvious that I
a troll and an abuser, I want to steal IP addresses of users.
At the same time, suchmoon bought (from a well-known troll and liar Vod) a BPIP service that not only collects IP addresses of users, but also keeps statistics well on who is interested to whom from which address.
But the troll and the abuser is of course me.

Russian speaking

Ratimov - while he was a newbie, he bravely reported and red-painted accounts-sellers and buyers in the Russian locale. For this he had received merits and was added to the DT. Even when he received a high rank, he did not enter into any signature campaigns and publicly swore that the purpose of his presence on the forum was a disinterested fight against fraudsters!
A month after this public oath, he applied for the CM signature campaign. When he finally got into CM, he somehow suddenly stopped noticing account buyers, for example, such as icopress

KTChampions - while he was a newbie, he was actively looking for account farms, fought against corruption in ru-locale. As soon as he got the rank and got into the DT and the subscription campaign, he suddenly lost interest in the struggle for justice and generally. Probably because corruption is now defeated thanks to him!

taikuri13 - very balanced and reasonable participant in ru-locale. He has wrote literate and detailed (and useless) posts in the Russian locale on almost any topic. He was a real "expert" in all matters. Was in the subscription CM for about two years.
On the day when it became known about his exclusion from the CM, he suddenly disappeared from the forum completely, he no longer wrote a single post

lovesmayfamilis - perhaps she is the only one person from the ru-local who actively continues to deal with exposures even after gaining a rank and getting into a signature campaign. Probably because there is not enough brains for anything else. If she starts doing something else, then there is probably again a chance to be permanently banned for plagiarism.
lovesmayfamilis, I hope the darkstar appreciated your efforts and will take you into their campaign to help pedophiles and drug dealers. But be careful. Karma may come back someday. And your loved family will face pedophiles and drug dealers directly.
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Yes, the pressure campaigns against CM are all about money. CM pays a lot more than any other campaign. Part of this could be that CM has so many spots, so it is well represented in many different communities in the forum. Most other campaigns have only a handful of spots, and most campaign managers do not put as much effort into trying to maximize exposure throughout the forum.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
I don’t understand how you can trust this troll, who decided to speak from the entire Russian community? Do you see other people here who are outraged and even more so accuse the manager of Chipmixer? All normal people understand that a manager can exclude a person from the company at any time.

I don't trust such people I just wanted to call some things by their real names. It was not possible in his self-moderated topic.
Of course, this is not general for the whole Russian community. Just for a few trolls, they will already be recognized.

It's all. No hypocrisy. No personal vendettas.

Yeah it's personal. You've been trolling Ratimov for quite a while. You didn't do this shit for any other users who got removed from the campaign. As far as troll jobs go this is quite lame.

interest in Ratimov health ceased as soon as he was removed from the campaign. That it is jealousy and hypocrisy.

Before getting into all the drama here, I have a question which I request anyone who wears the CM campaign signature to answer.

Here is no drama. This thread is not about "CM legit or not" it's about why is only CM under the microscope here. You ask CM campaign participants, but why you miss users or members which participate in other mixers campaigns?

This topic deserves a bump because not many users have the balls to challenge the CM gang members.

You say you have balls but still posting from an alt account. I am not saying that is not okay, but it is not the way how its doing by people who have balls.
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