Topic: Chipmixer campaign by the constant pressure of the hypocrite? - page 4. (Read 1411 times)

But mixers are defined as illegal, how do you defend promoting something illegal?

There are drug dealers who might be supplying drugs to everyone and maybe a lot of people benefit in their health with that, doesn't make the illegal drug dealer legal.

If they are mixing coins for users who want to maintain their anonymity do it, but not when it's defined as illegal.

As always, I don't shout without proofs and sources so here goes the illegal confirmation: https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-mixers-are-illegal-and-anonymity-is-dangerous/

If mixers were doing KYC and operating legally, I had no problems with them. Mix the coins but at least know whom you are aiding, a hacker who has cleaned an exchange or an innocent user who just want to avoid being tracked.

To the best of my knowledge, Chipmixer scammed 0% of its users.


At times bad people use this forum too, so lock your account and go to your safe space before agents Mulder and Scully come knocking on your door.

To the blind members who might come and dare me to come with my main account, this is for you.




Before getting into all the drama here, I have a question which I request anyone who wears the CM campaign signature to answer.

Why are you supporting money laundering services?

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/criminalize-onchain-privacy-mixer/

So mixers are clearly illegal and I cannot understand why promoting a money laundering service is being taken with such pride? Because they are paying good money? Well, then you guys have no right to tag the ponzi promoters and yoshit promoters.

If you are saying that promoting anything by taking money is allowed then you should not judge and tag users because they are promoting other illegal stuff.



Converting a bigger note into smaller ones is not money laundering but allowing hackers to mix their coins and get away is actually illegal.

There are innocent users who don't intend to scam others and mix their coins for their safety, right. But that doesn't hide how many illegal users are mixing their coins.

Yoshit scams lets say 90% of the users and 10% are not scammed, and I am among the 10%, does that enable me to promote them without any problem? Because hey, yes they are scammers but they don't scam everyone!

Similarl, CM doesn't always mix coins for hackers, but at times they do.

A good article, how CM allows hackers to mix their funds. You might be among one of the victims of these scammers one day and imagine the signature you are wearing helping hackers mix your own funds and help them run away, how amazing!

https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2019/08/150394-chipmixer-bitcoin-tumbler-used-to-launder-funds-stolen-in-80-million-usd-hack-on-binance/

Dude there are so many fucking reasons why people just keep coming after CM:

- Chipmixer has been the longest, highest paying campaign thus far. It has paid its participants more in bitcoin than any other sig. campaign. I am talking 100s and 100s of Bitcoins. Before the payments changed, there used to be payments of over 150k-200k$ every week. People kill for that money. So you know?

- The whole DT and merit crap, so many people give a shit about it and chipmixer participants usually have alot of merit to give away and half of them are pretty much DT members. What can I say, cult of DarkStar_ runs the forum. 

- Now that people like Lauda/Lutpin/Bruno/twitchy seal etc etc are not active anymore, the trolls need someone to target, don't they now?

The people actually in the campaign don't give a flying rainbow fuck about these trolls, cause we have been seeing it day in and day out. The trolls if anything, are helping us. We are getting paid to shit talk back to their utter abhorant-stinking-3rd world garbage posting posts while the trolls are sucking their own shit from their own butt.

Honestly, shoutout to DarkStar_, he has pretty much single handedly made the whole forum get jealous of CM participants. 

Yeah it's personal. You've been trolling Ratimov for quite a while. You didn't do this shit for any other users who got removed from the campaign. As far as troll jobs go this is quite lame.

To be honest, I don't understand why it was necessary to create this theme at all? If every topic created by a schizophrenic (~ DefaultTrust) fool is reacted and taken seriously, then every such schizophrenic will take note of this, and will regularly begin to engage in it.

I don’t understand how you can trust this troll, who decided to speak from the entire Russian community? Do you see other people here who are outraged and even more so accuse the manager of Chipmixer? All normal people understand that a manager can exclude a person from the company at any time.

From myself, I can say that the Russian locale has long ceased to be friendly. Regular attacks on Ratimov became a good pastime and entertainment for the trolls. And taking into account the fact that there was a small bunch of small dirty people gathered there, constantly swearing with obscene words, many have no desire to write something once again there.

Therefore, please, you do not need to expose and think that ~ DefaultTrust is delegated from all Russians. Small bunch, that's not all. And even more so to believe such lost people who have a scandal is the meaning of life.

So there were only those users who were in Chipmixer campaign kept the board alive and now they have been removed so no one there to make posts or create topic? 😛
If this is true then those participants were spammer imo. They had this only intention of to have a place in the campaign and earn money, not the responsibility to contribute in the bitcoin community.

These users Ratimov and some other were in attention few months ago because of some different level of plagiarism technique. It will be interesting if he/she reduced the number of posts that they used to make before and the efforts they used to give on the forum.

Can someone find a statistic about their positing activities?

All hypocrisy goes down to Cimpmixer because they pick good influencers of the forum who are more or less active against scam and forum affairs, the payment rate was too high and still is high so when someone can not make a position they starts hating it, the massive success of Chipmixer.

I do not see any other reason.

You argue well, but I have only a small amendment. I am never tried to be part of business with drug dealers, terrorist, paedophiles etc... Maybe only for trolling, but no more.
You understood me wrong. I am not in the least saddened by the absence of Chipmixer in the Russian locale.

In my topic, I only state the facts.
I think these facts should be known to everyone who is going to have a business with a Chipmixer.

It's all. No hypocrisy. No personal vendettas.


Perhaps due to the fact that the members of the Chipmixer's campaign (and their sycophants) are most aggressive in their behavior on the forum.

That's exactly why I didn't answer in that last topic. "Don't feed the troll", remember? On the other hand, what could we do, report it?!
And it has also occurred to me: all that drama, in all directions, (all those vendettas), is it that big or it's between a small number of "multi-account armies"?!

The pressure on DS shoulders is big, since CM is still paying very good and it may be the only campaign paying (hence encouraging!) local boards...

I was going to point out the same thing about Russians having nothing left to read once Chipmixer stops paying two users for posting there but it was a self-moderated topic so probably that moron would delete it as soon as he sees it.

But in the end, I don't think it's only about the money, there are a lot of personal vendettas in this forum, a lot of members in CM are on DT1 they have tagged a lot of scammers, and now they try with their alts to stir some shit whenever something happens even if it has no logic behind it.
~defaulttrust argued for months that Ratimov was a shitposter, now that he is no longer in the campaign DS is a racist. If DS allows a Russian participant in the campaign he is going to call him a communist or a supporter of Putin's regime probably, and so on and on and on.

This is a neverending troll fest!

we often see pressure on this campaign and on the manager of them. Now is actually, why there are no participants from Russia and Turkey.

I am wondering, whether all other campaigns have been checked and whether there are members from Russia and Turkey in all of them?
When other campaigns will be checked for racism? If not, why only ChipMixer?
whether all other languages are represented in this campaign and whether it is racism if only Russian and Turkey members complain about this fact?

Is this a proper answer to all doubt here?


So, without Chipmixer campaign payments, Russians had nothing to read. This section going to die without these paid posts?! 

User Ratimov is removed from the CM campaign. I don't know why and it's not my problem but obviously, the purpose of this attack on Ratimov is to be removed from the CM campaign. Thread is locked right after DarkStar_ removed them from the campaign. (IDK is it the reason why he is removed from there)

many of the whistleblowers called the bearers of the CM signature "sponsored by drug dealers, terrorist, paedophiles etc..."
if such an opinion is about ChipMixer business, why you try to be a part of it, and why you want them on your local board?

I saw this, but I saw no apology by those who accuse him


that this is not an isolated case by a single user ^{~DefaultTrust}, here is another example of hypocrisy

A two months ago, there was a chase on this campaign ^{and manager} because of the high payment rate?! 
After the consolidation of payment per post, even if this campaign is still with the highest rate, there were objections again.
For example, why no one complains about the low payment rate campaign as Bitvest or 777coin? To be clear, I haven't anything against them, but why there no pressure on them to increase payouts and raise the quality of participants?
ChipMixer is guilty because they lowered the rate down from $27 to $6, and some others are ok with a $0.3 per post. What I missed here?

in the end, it's all about money or potential earnings when participating in this campaign, right?