Topic: Christian BS - page 14. (Read 12699 times)

Is pricked your new nonsense word that you're going to keep spouting now like it actually means something? Waiting for the day you get tired of your own bullshit or at least drown in it.


Lol, what has that got to do with this? How does having two books relate to this or your point?

That is why,in the christian bible there are 2 books New Testament and Old Testament.The Old Testament describes how God made the world ,Adam and Eva and what happened to the chosen people till the day that Jesus was born.The New Testament describes the life of Jesus and the new rules that are given to the chosen people....so the Christians must respect the New Testament were is no slavery and Jesus says  to turn the other chick when some one slap your face.

It seems you're too easy too given as these threads always get your goat. I guess a lot of people must've pricked you hard too. Lethn, Muslims, Chinese, anyone who isn't a white American.

Be a christian at this day is something more about what you do.
Is more how you feel and interact with the people you have around you and with the world in general.

LOL somebody got pricked hard and starts bitching.

You people are too easy.

Many christians I know still treat their daughter and wives as slaves. Maybe they don't think about selling them, but they are not so different from muslims in that regard. It's like women don't have rights for them. Then again I'm not saying their all the same and of course there are christians that know how to distinguish right from wrong.

Eh. Christians are Jews.... they've just evolved very, very differently from each other. The Jesus Jews seem to've just wanted a new set of rules.

Perhaps you wanted to blame the jews as the Exodus been written by Moses for the benefit of the jew community...about 1200 years earlier than the first christians turned up .

So basically what you're saying is that people didn't like what they saw and decided to re-write something their supposed god or prophet put down for them to follow so they change it into something they did like regardless of what was actually written down, some Christians you guys are Oh wait! That kind of reminds me of how you react to science and the American constitution! Randomly making shit up and changing it through threats of violence or subverting the law in order to make it suit your own ignorant belief system!

Isn't it funny as well how this got more of a rise out of people than the Muslim thread, maybe it's because there's a higher number of Christians trolling around on these boards, you'd almost think I did that to piss them off deliberately

This was originally written by Moses about 3,500 years ago. At the time, the common laws of all of the the lands included these things, things like slavery. People all over that area of the world (the Middle East) followed these basic laws and others.

The laws that Moses set up on the orders of God, were designed to be something that the people were familiar with, and were set up to form a theocracy type of government for Israel. It was also a government of family. The people of Israel at that time were very family minded, generally.

Throughout the centuries, people did as people do. Some of them followed the laws Moses set down. Some disobeyed. There is a strong common core of Jewish people who obey the laws Moses set down today. Note, there was/is no requirement to have slaves.

Thirty-five hundred years later, the basic laws of the world have changed so that slavery is formally outlawed. Yet, there are a lot of Arabs, especially in the Northwestern part of Africa, who still have slaves. Even the governments there condone it, but not officially, because of world views.

The word "slave" as written in many parts of the Old Testament was the word that we would use for "employee" or maybe "indentured servant." If a single man, today, had a female employee who lived at his house, he would not be required to marry her. In those ancient days, the honorable thing to do was to marry her... and it might be the honorable thing, now, if we were an honorable people.

If, back then, a female employee who was a wife got a different job, the husband might have to let her go as his employee. So, how do you treat a wife who was just an employee, but you were married to her (in name only) because it was the common law of the land and of the people? The laws Moses set up were a good way to assure that things were done fairly.

Christianity today isn't what Christianity was 2000 years ago. Most Christians don't want to admit this, but wouldn't adhere to "Real Christianity." Much of it's irrelevant if not outright counter to ideology held by most of today's modern Christians. Instead, it's a set of rules guided by men, often at conferences where they talk about which rules to ignore in the Bible like it's a US attorney general talking about which rules of the Constitution to ignore, whose rules are relayed (either in these conferences or through television/pamphlets/whatever) by pastors/deacons/whatever to members of this voluntary government. This is true of all religions I'm aware of.

-So when they talk about their religious customs or opinions extrapolated from any religious text, I think it's worth respecting insofar as it's worth respecting that they willfully submit to a set of rules which generally command they act in a way the rest of us would consider moral. Geography-based, non-voluntary governments aren't generally accepted to enforce "non-pragmatic morality" (... .... though this thought seems to be eroding every day), so it's reasonable to have "gap coverage" for people who want a more comprehensive set of rules we "all" agree on. The value of religion, though, erodes dramatically if they don't command a high market share with regards to the adherent market.

-But it should be sold that way, these days, I think, if it's to be honest. It should just be a kind of honor code, and if you want to have a bumper sticker saying you adhere to the set of rules, and even if you try to "convert" people to accept your honor code -- great! At least everyone else can know what to expect. ... I'm not totally put off to the idea that honor codes should exist... but the books of most religions are far too long, and in archaic language. The Bible, I'd guess, could probably be compressed to ~20 pages at most.

We all want these kinds of rulesets to some extent, I think. Some want the exhaustive Bible list (or just the 10 Commandments), some want the exhaustive list in the Koran... some have their own individual codes (or as they interpret the NAP)... some go by mafia codes... some go by law. If we could just all agree on what is and isn't the behavior of an asshole, I'd guess there'd be no conflict.

lol...

Those fucking Christians am I right?