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legendary
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January 24, 2014, 10:54:03 AM
Well if we are voting, I suggest selling all the hardware, share the proceeds out and finish this disaster once and for all.
newbie
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January 24, 2014, 08:42:44 AM
Time is not on our side then. By the time we get all the shareholder to come to a decision it will be too late to put our order in.
I think for stuff like this and especially to speed things up we should simply find a majority of shareholders, not all of them. Also people with more shares should have a louder voice, just as it is with companies that are on the stock market.
There are 491 shares, so we need people with a voting weight of >246 shares to agree for the action.
Anyone against or in favor of this way of managing things?

If yes, I also agree with my 32 shares that we should use half of our equipment ASAP.
legendary
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January 24, 2014, 12:46:25 AM
What about buying them at ninjatech - they have hosting so they would go online pretty quick.  If there was more than one perhaps he would make a deal?

That's actually a good idea. Do you know if their hosting is reliable? The hosting cost is roughly $200 USD per month. However bear in mind he charges in btc, so hopefully he adjusts the hosting fees if btc/usd rate goes up. Also since they use ghash.io it could complicate things a bit as they pay the equivalent of 180 gh of hashing power to a specific btc address. So you can't point your miner to your own ghash.io account. Although I'm sure ninjatech may be able to make an exception in our case seeing as we're a group.

I must also mention that the price at ninjatech is a tiny bit higher than from sushi-review or bitmain directly. 1.90 btc is the cheapest price at the moment.

I agree on the bitmaintech price being better.  I would be willing to host the units to save the money.  However Saturday is the last day they are shipping i believe then nothing for about 25 days.  Ninjatech same thing but he is getting his last batch on monday.

Crap, Chinese New Year. I totally forgot about that. I always found it odd that practically everything shuts down for an entire month almost. Time is not on our side then. By the time we get all the shareholder to come to a decision it will be too late to put our order in. If we wait 25 days the only way this would be worthwhile would be if they lower the price again or maybe buy the units from a person on the forum (which carries its own risks of course).

Also if you can host them that would be sweet. The cost of power supplies and all that can be spread among the shareholders.

Are you located in the United States?
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January 23, 2014, 07:02:14 PM
What about buying them at ninjatech - they have hosting so they would go online pretty quick.  If there was more than one perhaps he would make a deal?

That's actually a good idea. Do you know if their hosting is reliable? The hosting cost is roughly $200 USD per month. However bear in mind he charges in btc, so hopefully he adjusts the hosting fees if btc/usd rate goes up. Also since they use ghash.io it could complicate things a bit as they pay the equivalent of 180 gh of hashing power to a specific btc address. So you can't point your miner to your own ghash.io account. Although I'm sure ninjatech may be able to make an exception in our case seeing as we're a group.

I must also mention that the price at ninjatech is a tiny bit higher than from sushi-review or bitmain directly. 1.90 btc is the cheapest price at the moment.

I agree on the bitmaintech price being better.  I would be willing to host the units to save the money.  However Saturday is the last day they are shipping i believe then nothing for about 25 days.  Ninjatech same thing but he is getting his last batch on monday.
legendary
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January 23, 2014, 06:58:17 PM
What about buying them at ninjatech - they have hosting so they would go online pretty quick.  If there was more than one perhaps he would make a deal?

That's actually a good idea. Do you know if their hosting is reliable? The hosting cost is roughly $200 USD per month. However bear in mind he charges in btc, so hopefully he adjusts the hosting fees if btc/usd rate goes up. Also since they use ghash.io it could complicate things a bit as they pay the equivalent of 180 gh of hashing power to a specific btc address. So you can't point your miner to your own ghash.io account. Although I'm sure ninjatech may be able to make an exception in our case seeing as we're a group.

I must also mention that the price at ninjatech is a tiny bit higher than from sushi-review or bitmain directly. 1.90 btc is the cheapest price at the moment.
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January 23, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
Looking to sell 20-30 of my shares.  Please pm me any offers.
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January 22, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
What about buying them at ninjatech - they have hosting so they would go online pretty quick.  If there was more than one perhaps he would make a deal?
legendary
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January 22, 2014, 04:06:23 PM
I can vouch for antminers as well. They do run great - reliable, quiet, and fairly efficient too. I would agree to have all our half our miners converted over. It just sucks that import fees into RU are so high and that shipping options are so unreliable and slow. Any chance you can find some for sale locally or in a nearby country (EU)?

Edit: Is there no  other quicker way to ship? Would it be quicker if someone from another country orders them and then reships them to RU?
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January 16, 2014, 05:42:33 PM
я зa любoй кипeш, кpoмe гoлoдoвки Smiley
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January 16, 2014, 09:15:41 AM
1.  About mining Bitcoins. In general I agree with dargolf. I think unlikely sha-256 altcoins will have good potential for growth rate.
2.  I had another adventurous idea  Smiley. As you known, there is an interesting situation on the bitcoin asics market.
The cost of 1 GH varies from $ 10 (btmine, sushi..) to $ 40 on the secondary asics market.
Maybe it will be profitable to sell our miners, for example for 7 BTC for 1x300 GH ASIC and buy 3 x btmine (200GH) in 3x2,4=7.2 BTC.
As a result, we get 600 GH instead of 300 GH. But as always, everything will decide the time ...
            1. Time from selling the our device until the order new device - 1 day or less;
            2. Time from order to shipping - as wrote btmine 3-5 days;
            3. Time to delivery - 10-14 days. Delivery to Russia via DHL, FedEx, UPS and other express companies, as you know, does not work.
Shipping cost will be $ 300 for one miner.
Total 14-20 days without mining....
I find a buyer for 7 BTC fast and without problem. For starters, we can try to do this operation with 1-2 devices.
Who thinks about this?
3. Today mining will be stopped for a few hours, it became necessary to replace the automatic shutdown 32A. Automatic shutdown by IRL recently strongly are heated,
will replace it to Siemens. Sorry for the inconvenience.

HI Pidobir,
I'd like to know if only you were offered a compensation for the delay or everyone got extra hashrate?
Hi! dani!
As i know everyone who had late shipping got extra hashrate.

Also, it's not a good idea to sell Namecoins blindly, as they have raised in value more than 10 fold in the last few months. We should either keep them or sell them when the value is high (ATH is around 15$ IIRC, the current price is 6-7$).
The decision to purchase the GH takes Robocoder. Perhaps he would expect the growth rate of NMC.


Great ideas there Pidobir, for me and most likely Nuddi too you get a go-ahead. A fair few percentage, for your work, is also ok.

*edit maybe you should try to email as many as possible, if we get 50%+ go-ahead you can proceed.
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January 15, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
2.  I had another adventurous idea  Smiley. As you known, there is an interesting situation on the bitcoin asics market.
The cost of 1 GH varies from $ 10 (btmine, sushi..) to $ 40 on the secondary asics market.
Maybe it will be profitable to sell our miners, for example for 7 BTC for 1x300 GH ASIC and buy 3 x btmine (200GH) in 3x2,4=7.2 BTC.
As a result, we get 600 GH instead of 300 GH. But as always, everything will decide the time ...
            1. Time from selling the our device until the order new device - 1 day or less;
            2. Time from order to shipping - as wrote btmine 3-5 days;
            3. Time to delivery - 10-14 days. Delivery to Russia via DHL, FedEx, UPS and other express companies, as you know, does not work.
Shipping cost will be $ 300 for one miner.
Total 14-20 days without mining....
I find a buyer for 7 BTC fast and without problem. For starters, we can try to do this operation with 1-2 devices.
Who thinks about this?
That's quite the good idea but do we know anything about the reliability of btmine shipping promises? If it's reliable we could maybe try it with half our miners, as long as more people agree. Generally too few people are active in the discussion here, do you have a way of contacting shareholders so they can vote?

They are a little slow but confirmed by reputable people.  They are actually 2.2 at the moment, shipping this saturday.  They are saying this is the last batch until after chinese new year.  Shipping is free to the US.  I assume the $300 is for duties etc?

I have a few from them and they run great at 375Mhz and they get rougly 194 GH/s.  Clocking them at 400 for the 205 is a bit hard on the VR and isn't recommended.
newbie
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January 15, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
2.  I had another adventurous idea  Smiley. As you known, there is an interesting situation on the bitcoin asics market.
The cost of 1 GH varies from $ 10 (btmine, sushi..) to $ 40 on the secondary asics market.
Maybe it will be profitable to sell our miners, for example for 7 BTC for 1x300 GH ASIC and buy 3 x btmine (200GH) in 3x2,4=7.2 BTC.
As a result, we get 600 GH instead of 300 GH. But as always, everything will decide the time ...
            1. Time from selling the our device until the order new device - 1 day or less;
            2. Time from order to shipping - as wrote btmine 3-5 days;
            3. Time to delivery - 10-14 days. Delivery to Russia via DHL, FedEx, UPS and other express companies, as you know, does not work.
Shipping cost will be $ 300 for one miner.
Total 14-20 days without mining....
I find a buyer for 7 BTC fast and without problem. For starters, we can try to do this operation with 1-2 devices.
Who thinks about this?
That's quite the good idea but do we know anything about the reliability of btmine shipping promises? If it's reliable we could maybe try it with half our miners, as long as more people agree. Generally too few people are active in the discussion here, do you have a way of contacting shareholders so they can vote?
full member
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January 11, 2014, 11:51:11 PM
1.  About mining Bitcoins. In general I agree with dargolf. I think unlikely sha-256 altcoins will have good potential for growth rate.
2.  I had another adventurous idea  Smiley. As you known, there is an interesting situation on the bitcoin asics market.
The cost of 1 GH varies from $ 10 (btmine, sushi..) to $ 40 on the secondary asics market.
Maybe it will be profitable to sell our miners, for example for 7 BTC for 1x300 GH ASIC and buy 3 x btmine (200GH) in 3x2,4=7.2 BTC.
As a result, we get 600 GH instead of 300 GH. But as always, everything will decide the time ...
            1. Time from selling the our device until the order new device - 1 day or less;
            2. Time from order to shipping - as wrote btmine 3-5 days;
            3. Time to delivery - 10-14 days. Delivery to Russia via DHL, FedEx, UPS and other express companies, as you know, does not work.
Shipping cost will be $ 300 for one miner.
Total 14-20 days without mining....
I find a buyer for 7 BTC fast and without problem. For starters, we can try to do this operation with 1-2 devices.
Who thinks about this?
3. Today mining will be stopped for a few hours, it became necessary to replace the automatic shutdown 32A. Automatic shutdown by IRL recently strongly are heated,
will replace it to Siemens. Sorry for the inconvenience.

HI Pidobir,
I'd like to know if only you were offered a compensation for the delay or everyone got extra hashrate?
Hi! dani!
As i know everyone who had late shipping got extra hashrate.

Also, it's not a good idea to sell Namecoins blindly, as they have raised in value more than 10 fold in the last few months. We should either keep them or sell them when the value is high (ATH is around 15$ IIRC, the current price is 6-7$).
The decision to purchase the GH takes Robocoder. Perhaps he would expect the growth rate of NMC.
sr. member
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January 11, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
People are buying SHA-256 miners to mine other coins instead of btc. DEM, for instance was hot awhile ago and those mining it instead ROId fast as hell.

The payouts also are starting to get a bit smaller for us.

Optimally, we would at some point switch over to some (preferably) automated pool, mining altcoins for a higher gain than btc, which we really could keep doing for long after btc has dissappeared on the ASIC 20nm horizon.

What does the group think about this? What does Pido think? Does someone have deeper knowledge on this?
I only know Multipool takes SHA-256 -capacity and pays in alts, and that's it. Personally, I use middlecoin for my private small scrypt farm, but it is exclusively for scrypt mining.

Really, the alts will prosper along with btc in the 'Money 2.0' landscape. We might have the capacity to participate in even more profitable undertakings than now? Does someone know more? Maybe about pools or altcoins, automated exchanges like som pools use?

Speak up.
Generally I agree with the Altcoin aspects, though most of the profitable altcoins (e.g. dogecoin) are scrypt based and most of the time other SHA-256 based coins are less profitable than bitcoin. Merged/Parallel mining is an option of course.

Also, it's not a good idea to sell Namecoins blindly, as they have raised in value more than 10 fold in the last few months. We should either keep them or sell them when the value is high (ATH is around 15$ IIRC, the current price is 6-7$).

You need to define "we", we need to know who would be up for it. Pido? Also I'd like more opinions on the matters I presented, not just on how to sell one altcoin. With 2.8TH/s, our capacity and resources still matter to a great extent for a myriad of opportunities.
hero member
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January 11, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
HI Pidobir,

I'd like to know if only you were offered a compensation for the delay or everyone got extra hashrate?
newbie
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January 11, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
People are buying SHA-256 miners to mine other coins instead of btc. DEM, for instance was hot awhile ago and those mining it instead ROId fast as hell.

The payouts also are starting to get a bit smaller for us.

Optimally, we would at some point switch over to some (preferably) automated pool, mining altcoins for a higher gain than btc, which we really could keep doing for long after btc has dissappeared on the ASIC 20nm horizon.

What does the group think about this? What does Pido think? Does someone have deeper knowledge on this?
I only know Multipool takes SHA-256 -capacity and pays in alts, and that's it. Personally, I use middlecoin for my private small scrypt farm, but it is exclusively for scrypt mining.

Really, the alts will prosper along with btc in the 'Money 2.0' landscape. We might have the capacity to participate in even more profitable undertakings than now? Does someone know more? Maybe about pools or altcoins, automated exchanges like som pools use?

Speak up.
Generally I agree with the Altcoin aspects, though most of the profitable altcoins (e.g. dogecoin) are scrypt based and most of the time other SHA-256 based coins are less profitable than bitcoin. Merged/Parallel mining is an option of course.

Also, it's not a good idea to sell Namecoins blindly, as they have raised in value more than 10 fold in the last few months. We should either keep them or sell them when the value is high (ATH is around 15$ IIRC, the current price is 6-7$).
sr. member
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January 10, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Hello! Small update.
1. Since January 11, hosting conditions back to the first:
My terms for second service:
...
4. I will host it for a 5% fee* (... Namecoins and Ixcoins and Devcoins are my profit too...);
...
Altcoins that are on the balance at the moment (until January 11) will be transferred to gh by Robokoder.

2. Faulty 3xPSU and 3 boards (1 Burned by overclocking and 2 defective for reasons unknown) were sent to Moscow in early November. However MetaBank took parcel in Moscow only on January 6  (almost two months parcel lying on the stock ). This track parcel number 65601068018159 http://www.russianpost.ru/tracking/
No other news.
Sorry, if someone is a disappointment .


You really should ask him for some goodwill compensation.

If he gives even some old h-boards, not the ones with the pci-connectors, I have a motherboard, backboard and cabling for it.
sr. member
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January 10, 2014, 10:51:47 AM
People are buying SHA-256 miners to mine other coins instead of btc. DEM, for instance was hot awhile ago and those mining it instead ROId fast as hell.

The payouts also are starting to get a bit smaller for us.

Optimally, we would at some point switch over to some (preferably) automated pool, mining altcoins for a higher gain than btc, which we really could keep doing for long after btc has dissappeared on the ASIC 20nm horizon.

What does the group think about this? What does Pido think? Does someone have deeper knowledge on this?
I only know Multipool takes SHA-256 -capacity and pays in alts, and that's it. Personally, I use middlecoin for my private small scrypt farm, but it is exclusively for scrypt mining.

Really, the alts will prosper along with btc in the 'Money 2.0' landscape. We might have the capacity to participate in even more profitable undertakings than now? Does someone know more? Maybe about pools or altcoins, automated exchanges like som pools use?

Speak up.
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January 10, 2014, 02:10:41 AM
Hello! Small update.
1. Since January 11, hosting conditions back to the first:
My terms for second service:
...
4. I will host it for a 5% fee* (... Namecoins and Ixcoins and Devcoins are my profit too...);
...
Altcoins that are on the balance at the moment (until January 11) will be transferred to gh by Robokoder.

2. Faulty 3xPSU and 3 boards (1 Burned by overclocking and 2 defective for reasons unknown) were sent to Moscow in early November. However MetaBank took parcel in Moscow only on January 6  (almost two months parcel lying on the stock ). This track parcel number 65601068018159 http://www.russianpost.ru/tracking/
No other news.
Sorry, if someone is a disappointment .
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December 09, 2013, 11:21:24 PM
We will be at 5 TH in no time Wink
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