[Closed] AVALON CHIPs @0.082BTC + K16 Miner Assembly 60EUR - page 10.

anto

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Quote from: Fishbones on August 31, 2013, 05:06:17 PM

The refund cutoff date is June 15, not the 1st. That was a typo in the newsletter. So batch 1 is refundable.

EDIT: The date has been extended to orders until June 22nd. Also, refunds for chips have started.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/incoming-avalon-news-892013-269950

I suggest, once again, to request the refund for batch1 ASAP. Monday might be too late. Yifu might disappear again or run out of BTC or change the terms again... Who knows ... Undecided

As we have seen, with bitcoin you can't wait. While you wait, shit happens and you lose BTC

Thank you.
Bizwoo, I urge you to take Fishbones' advice: other bg are receiving refunds, and we don't know if and when Yifu will go short of money.
Another risk is you receive batch one on Wednesday and you or the bg have to incur expenses to ship them back.

ArtificiallySmart

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@Bizwoo

How are the stats? Can you give us an insight in how many people want a refund?

Fishbones

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Quote from: anto on August 31, 2013, 04:11:12 PM

batch one was ordered on June 8 so even shipping today is 2 weeks later. This is time sensitive hardware, there was a no bullshit clause and this delay is not acceptable. Bizwoo should refuse to receive batch 1 chips and demand instead a refund.
I do not want to be forced to accept a product I have the right to refuse.

The refund cutoff date is June 15, not the 1st. That was a typo in the newsletter. So batch 1 is refundable.

EDIT: The date has been extended to orders until June 22nd. Also, refunds for chips have started.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/incoming-avalon-news-892013-269950

I suggest, once again, to request the refund for batch1 ASAP. Monday might be too late. Yifu might disappear again or run out of BTC or change the terms again... Who knows ... Undecided

As we have seen, with bitcoin you can't wait. While you wait, shit happens and you lose BTC

anto

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batch one was ordered on June 8 so even shipping today is 2 weeks later. This is time sensitive hardware, there was a no bullshit clause and this delay is not acceptable. Bizwoo should refuse to receive batch 1 chips and demand instead a refund.
I do not want to be forced to accept a product I have the right to refuse.

ampu

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Quote from: BitSyncom on August 31, 2013, 03:41:16 PM

Quote from: jspielberg on August 31, 2013, 03:39:39 PM

Quote from: BitSyncom on August 31, 2013, 03:33:15 PM

what? with lead time of 8-10 weeks agreed upon ordering, some orders made after june are not even suppose to ship yet, why would we offer refund for them.

it simply says since chips are arriving, we believe we will be on time, if not, a new refund form will be made.

Yifu... Start at June 1st and count ten weeks.

I'm aware, I was commenting on him in particular, his order is made on june 24th, I'm not even behind yet.

also there's a typo, the form says 15th, which is exactly 2 and half months ago from today.

Batch 1 should be refundable..

Anyway I have chosen not to ask for a refund

finlof

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Quote from: kearneykid on August 31, 2013, 02:14:04 PM

"Avalon ASIC
Chips Delivery Update, September Edition
Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.

The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.

In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.

In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock."

Does not look good for Batch 2 refund!

batch 1 was ordered after June 1, so prob doesnt look good for batch 1 refund either

kearneykid

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"Avalon ASIC
Chips Delivery Update, September Edition
Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.

The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.

In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.

In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock."

Does not look good for Batch 2 refund!

Dataroth

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I chose refund. That being said I think everyone in the group buy needs to compensate bizwoo and nekonos for all the time and potentially money they have put in. I was thinking something along the lines of .25 BTC for both bizwoo and nekonos? I don't know how much money nekonos has tied up in the board prototypes though. Suggestions?

sociomenace

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This is not good at all.

Bizwoo and nekonos you guys have been nothing but perfect and I can't even begin to imagine the head aches from organizing this cluster fuck that Avalon has been.

I'm opting for a refund but I would also be more than happy to give Nekonos a % if he has already fronted money for materials to make the boards.

I didn't invest much in this and I feel for those that did so on the good faith of this uncommunicative and shady "company".

Cheers.
SM.

Fishbones

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The smart thing to do is get a refund for this batch and once they are in stock and cheaper, order again for those who want a bit of avalon asic gen 1 memorabilia Grin

psyc

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I'm undecided

if Avalon sends in October before it gets everything it takes dicembre

Tomdraug

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Quote from: Rawbit on August 30, 2013, 08:11:02 AM

nekonos - are You going to assemble K16? What will happen to Your business if all people will back off? I still want my miners :-) But I have only 10.

I have only 6 but I stick with nekonos too - no refund go ahead I as planned

Besides, I urge caution, BTC is 137 usd right now

I only wonder if Avalon is scam or just custom trouble ...

Tom

ct1aic

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Are ฿itcoins Radioactive?

Hi nekonos.

I sent you a PM Today at 09:28:57.

Best regards.

Rawbit

newbie

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nekonos - are You going to assemble K16? What will happen to Your business if all people will back off? I still want my miners :-) But I have only 10.

psyc

sr. member

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but you know exactly when avalon should send these chip?

cr003l7y

newbie

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Some live stats concerning vote results would be nice, it doesn't have to be fancy Cool

asyring

newbie

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@nekonos

Do you have now have bank transfer only? No Visa or Mastercard?

Toudie

newbie

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Quote from: bizwoo on August 30, 2013, 02:31:25 AM

Hi,

please remember to visit the website and tick the box if you would like to have the chips refunded. If you just would like to get your chips then you need to do nothing but make sure that you have fill all the information related to assembler and shippment.

I expect to have answers by next Sunday 1. Fields blank by this date would be considered as if no refund is needed.

Cheers.

Hi Bizwoo!
Maybe You should send e-mail to people registred on Web with info that there is important choice to do? I believe that many of us may miss this voting.

Regards!

bizwoo

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Hi,

please remember to visit the website and tick the box if you would like to have the chips refunded. If you just would like to get your chips then you need to do nothing but make sure that you have fill all the information related to assembler and shippment.

I expect to have answers by next Sunday 1. Fields blank by this date would be considered as if no refund is needed.

Cheers.

Isamaru

newbie

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Merit: 0

voted for refund or if anyone wants my order i can sell it, 1x K16

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