[CLOSED] BTCMine - ZERO fee mining pool (LP, SSL, JSON API, P2SH) - page 42.

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Quote from: dbitcoin on March 22, 2011, 11:42:20 AM

Quote from: dishwara on March 22, 2011, 11:27:38 AM

Its bullshit.
saying that NO ONE TOLD U THIS.
i said in the forum, in ur page that i am not seeing myself at current
state.
said, i see offline, even after an hour & online after i stopped mining.
what is this then?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> During todays update I found nasty bug.
> Wrong timeout for current block updating (and problem with stale shares).
> Now this bug killed, and all should be fine.
>
> p.s. to bad, what no one report about this problem Sad

>
> BTCMine Robot
>

You report about stale shares? Really?
Your post and this bug has small relation. Probably one or two shares do not accepted for slow cpu miners.
Relax and drink cup of tea or coffee.

sorry got confused web page display with stale shares.

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Quote from: dishwara on March 22, 2011, 11:27:38 AM

Its bullshit.
saying that NO ONE TOLD U THIS.
i said in the forum, in ur page that i am not seeing myself at current
state.
said, i see offline, even after an hour & online after i stopped mining.
what is this then?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> During todays update I found nasty bug.
> Wrong timeout for current block updating (and problem with stale shares).
> Now this bug killed, and all should be fine.
>
> p.s. to bad, what no one report about this problem Sad

>
> BTCMine Robot
>

You report about stale shares? Really?
Your post and this bug has small relation. Probably one or two shares do not accepted for slow cpu miners.
Relax and drink cup of tea or coffee.

dishwara

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Its bullshit.
saying that NO ONE TOLD U THIS.
i said in the forum, in ur page that i am not seeing myself at current
state.
said, i see offline, even after an hour & online after i stopped mining.
what is this then?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> During todays update I found nasty bug.
> Wrong timeout for current block updating (and problem with stale shares).
> Now this bug killed, and all should be fine.
>
> p.s. to bad, what no one report about this problem Sad

>
> BTCMine Robot
>

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Quote from: dishwara on March 22, 2011, 09:46:27 AM

it seems the web page has not some, but more delay in showing, top 25, number of shares.....online, offline.....

i mined more than an hour, but didn't see myself online, but after i stopped i see myself online.

Online status counted if valid share submitted in last hour. Top 25 updated with 10m timeout.
For low speed miner is possible what sometime you see offline status.
I will be tune timeouts later.

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it seems the web page has not some, but more delay in showing, top 25, number of shares.....online, offline.....

i mined more than an hour, but didn't see myself online, but after i stopped i see myself online.

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Quote from: Grinder on March 21, 2011, 07:51:26 AM

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

BTW, why do you think bitcoinpool not grow? With zero fee?

I can only speak for myself, but they don't have PPS, their hash rate is too low to provide a steady payout, they require a special client, and they whine too much about their efficiency.

I like to make a correction here.
We support any client on our pool. We just recently added support for long polling too.
We also released our own modified version of m0mchill's miner, it is not required to be a part of our pool, but we would prefer you use it.

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Quote from: dishwara on March 22, 2011, 04:45:07 AM

now you can see me mining here also.

welcome

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now you can see me mining here also.

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Pool software updated.

Due most of miners want score or pps payout model, pool switched to score based payout model.
This model prevent loss for cpu miners and protect pool from timing attacks.
All already submitted shares calculated with 1.0 score and will be paid, when pool solve next block.
There is possible some small bugs due this upgrade, please send your reports.

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Scheduled maintenance 3/22/2011 06:00 UTC
Estimated maintenance time 30 min.

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Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 08:35:35 AM

never mind... I just need more sleep Grin

Lol, too tired.......

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Quote from: [Tycho] on March 21, 2011, 08:13:07 AM

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:32:21 AM

Quote from: [Tycho] on March 21, 2011, 07:27:10 AM

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

Actually there is NO risk of cheating if you are doing PPS-only or you have PPS and sharing pools separated.

Only without instant payout. And only for pool operator, not for miners.

How, exactly ?

never mind... I just need more sleep Grin

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Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:32:21 AM

Quote from: [Tycho] on March 21, 2011, 07:27:10 AM

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

Actually there is NO risk of cheating if you are doing PPS-only or you have PPS and sharing pools separated.

Only without instant payout. And only for pool operator, not for miners.

How, exactly ?

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Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

1) No one poll operator need a more risks for small fee.

Everybody wants low risk. For a well run, well connected pool with a high hash rate the risk would be minimal to the operator, though.

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

I don't think there is any way to cheat with PPS. Feel free to share if you think you know something I don't.

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

BTW, why do you think bitcoinpool not grow? With zero fee?

I can only speak for myself, but they don't have PPS, their hash rate is too low to provide a steady payout, they require a special client, and they whine too much about their efficiency.

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Quote from: [Tycho] on March 21, 2011, 07:27:10 AM

Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

Actually there is NO risk of cheating if you are doing PPS-only or you have PPS and sharing pools separated.

Only without instant payout. And only for pool operator, not for miners.

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Quote from: dbitcoin on March 21, 2011, 07:11:42 AM

2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

Actually there is NO risk of cheating if you are doing PPS-only or you have PPS and sharing pools separated.

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Quote from: Grinder on March 21, 2011, 04:12:54 AM

The only drawback for pps is that it shifts that risk to the pool provider. Other than that it's win win for both sides. It makes it very easy to client to check that the pool provider doesn't cheat, and the pool provider doesn't have to take any measures against pool jumping. I think that if someone starts providing pps and long polling for a more fair price than 10% they would quickly become the largest pool.

1) No one poll operator need a more risks for small fee.
2) And you miss one big problem - pps payout model impossible protect from smart cheaters.

BTW, why do you think bitcoinpool not grow? With zero fee?

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Quote from: [Tycho] on March 21, 2011, 04:18:01 AM

Any price is fair if both sides agree on it and pool owner don't lies about it.

But since I don't agree to it your attempt at nitpicking is moot.

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Quote from: Grinder on March 21, 2011, 04:12:54 AM

I think that if someone starts providing pps and long polling for a more fair price than 10% they would quickly become the largest pool.

Any price is fair if both sides agree on it and pool owner don't lies about it.

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I voted pay per share, under the condition that the price is the same for all models. I don't think those who select another option make the same assumption, because if they did it would make no sense to select anything else. The whole point of a pool is to get a steady payout, and pps is as steady as it gets.

The only drawback for pps is that it shifts that risk to the pool provider. Other than that it's win win for both sides. It makes it very easy to client to check that the pool provider doesn't cheat, and the pool provider doesn't have to take any measures against pool jumping. I think that if someone starts providing pps and long polling for a more fair price than 10% they would quickly become the largest pool.

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