[CLOSED] Cryptomine.io - Jan Campaign - page 21.

redsn0w

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#Free market

Quote from: Eisenhower34 on November 29, 2014, 09:44:01 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 27, 2014, 07:06:33 AM

-snip-
I have received the funds in this wallet 1FpLaKLmnC3mxCMeBiDiZRCRUdHd3yHnz4
The amount I have is enough to cover the total pay in BTC only if all the Full Members and higher makes 100+ constructive posts. In case the company runs into trouble and/or they do not provide the mining power for some reason, you will get the BTC amount only (not the 20% higher mining power).

---------------Message------------------
Funds for Cryptomine December campaign
---------------Signature-----------------
HCJh81VW0WD0C7WNQnsTZxJnlDgtyJkpOmM4Ty7E8bd3hzkQxXHHjj8japugrZqOvhN06D6zpQ82c/gWLEY/oYk=
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--snip--

You have not conducted enough trades, nor have enough of a trading history to be able to be sufficient trusted with 7+ BTC of a company's funds. What gave them the idea to let you manage the campaign (you also don't have any experience in managing campaigns, and barely have experience participating in signature campaigns), and what logic did they use to trust you with so much money?

The fact that you are holding the funds for the campaign should not be enough to give participants confidence that they will be paid after 30 days (or even after 10 days).

Awesome reply Wink

, now Carra23 doesn't has any excuse Roll Eyes

. Choose a reputable escrow : tomatocage, monbux, dooglus , etc....

Eisenhower34

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 27, 2014, 07:06:33 AM

-snip-
I have received the funds in this wallet 1FpLaKLmnC3mxCMeBiDiZRCRUdHd3yHnz4
The amount I have is enough to cover the total pay in BTC only if all the Full Members and higher makes 100+ constructive posts. In case the company runs into trouble and/or they do not provide the mining power for some reason, you will get the BTC amount only (not the 20% higher mining power).

---------------Message------------------
Funds for Cryptomine December campaign
---------------Signature-----------------
HCJh81VW0WD0C7WNQnsTZxJnlDgtyJkpOmM4Ty7E8bd3hzkQxXHHjj8japugrZqOvhN06D6zpQ82c/gWLEY/oYk=
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--snip--

You have not conducted enough trades, nor have enough of a trading history to be able to be sufficient trusted with 7+ BTC of a company's funds. What gave them the idea to let you manage the campaign (you also don't have any experience in managing campaigns, and barely have experience participating in signature campaigns), and what logic did they use to trust you with so much money?

The fact that you are holding the funds for the campaign should not be enough to give participants confidence that they will be paid after 30 days (or even after 10 days).

EDIT: you should use a trusted escrow provider to hold funds for the protection of the campaign.

Quickseller

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 29, 2014, 04:20:29 AM

Did carra actually explained why he don't want to escrow the funds? It may seems like he's avoiding the subject.

There are two broad types of accusations against me:

I am actually a shill and a part of the mining company with probably a bought account: Even if I use a different escrow this allegation will still hold and considering the way every action has been twisted I am sure some way the action will be seen as confirming that.

I am not involved with the company and I can take the money and leave: If that were to happen I would not be here wasting my time setting up this campaign. I would have already run.

Not true, you could potentially claim incompetence and that the funds were stolen from you and/or your computer was hacked and bitcoin was stolen. Since you have zero trading history this would be plausible.

Assuming you are a shill of the company it would allow the company to retain a positive image and would allow the company to continue to be able to recruit additional advertisers.

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

So far the participants seem mostly satisfied. If someone is apprehensive he can ask for the 10 day payouts. I have said earlier that any leftover funds would be used to bump up their pay to full, so good chance their pay will not be reduced in the end.

Also not true. Most people have been silent on the issue (it is generally rare that once someone is actually participating to speak out against the person who will end up paying them). The few that have not been silent have either requested escrow or asked for a 10 day payout. Even if they ask for a 10 day payout they are still risking giving free advertising, only for less time.

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

I have ignored any comments from shills and all, as I do not know what their motives are. So far, only you and redsn0w are the ones who have commented negatively and not hiding behind shill account, and so are the only ones I have replied to.

The "shills" are likely the campaign participants who do not want to speak out about the person who will pay them (as I mentioned above). You also do not know which accounts are actually "shills" and which are voicing legit concerns.

There are several very trustworthy escrow providers that I am fairly certain would be able to provide escrow for free or for very little. A few that come to mind are devthedev (I think he might be on vacation), dooglus, tomatocage, monbux, among others.

Quickseller

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Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 08:10:28 AM

Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:53:46 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:45:14 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Fair enough.

Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:39:23 AM

How about you sir, you are also refuse for using escrow too Roll Eyes

It wouldn't make sense for an escrow to escrow funds.

I will remain in control of a large sum of BTC which was sent to me on behalf of bit-x.com, for the duration of the signature campaign.

I can see that your answer & carra answer is same Cheesy

I'd like to argue that our positions are completely different but I will drop the discussion.

Macro has a history of trading on this forum and his trust rating reflects that. Although the amount of funds in question would represent more then he has ever been trusted with in the past (at least according to his received trust feedback) the chances of macro actually paying are much higher then the OP actually paying

pawel7777

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 29, 2014, 04:20:29 AM

Did carra actually explained why he don't want to escrow the funds? It may seems like he's avoiding the subject.

There are two broad types of accusations against me:

I am actually a shill and a part of the mining company with probably a bought account: Even if I use a different escrow this allegation will still hold and considering the way every action has been twisted I am sure some way the action will be seen as confirming that.

I am not involved with the company and I can take the money and leave: If that were to happen I would not be here wasting my time setting up this campaign. I would have already run.

So far the participants seem mostly satisfied. If someone is apprehensive he can ask for the 10 day payouts. I have said earlier that any leftover funds would be used to bump up their pay to full, so good chance their pay will not be reduced in the end.

I have ignored any comments from shills and all, as I do not know what their motives are. So far, only you and redsn0w are the ones who have commented negatively and not hiding behind shill account, and so are the only ones I have replied to.

I don't think I've commented negatively, I'm not even a part of this campaign so my point of view is pretty neutral. I even posted somewhere that I don't think it's likely that this campaign is a scam.

But half of this thread (+ other threads) relates to the uncertainty whether this campaign i legit or not. Just can't understand why would you choose to deal with all this instead of just escrowing with trusted member and instantly cutting all that BS and accusations.

You still haven't made clear why you wouldn't use trusted escrow (from your point of view). For example:
- you don't trust anyone enough to let them hold all the funds.
- you want to use this opportunity to build up your own trust score.
-[some other reason]

Just a simple, honest answer, so people can see your logic.

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

So far the participants seem mostly satisfied....

You cannot really say that. A few people asked for trusted escrow, other remain silent, but didn't see any posts like "we trust carra, we don't want an escrow".

Anyway, think I've already spent too much time in this thread.

Good luck with the campaign

marcotheminer

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Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:53:46 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:45:14 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Fair enough.

Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:39:23 AM

How about you sir, you are also refuse for using escrow too Roll Eyes

It wouldn't make sense for an escrow to escrow funds.

I will remain in control of a large sum of BTC which was sent to me on behalf of bit-x.com, for the duration of the signature campaign.

I can see that your answer & carra answer is same Cheesy

I'd like to argue that our positions are completely different but I will drop the discussion.

redsn0w

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#Free market

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 08:07:36 AM

Quote from: redsn0w on November 29, 2014, 08:05:21 AM

I'm not sure but what is this Roll Eyes

?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/barwick-mining-signature-campaign-earn-upto-01-btc-each-month-overpaid-810608

You were the escrow, you know full well what it is.

At that time I was not interested in running a campaign, but I am now.

Interesting reply , thanks for your attention .

4ever

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 08:01:09 AM

Quote from: 4ever on November 29, 2014, 07:58:33 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Ask the campaign owner to comment here please. We want to hear it from him.

Its a locked thread so I can not quote https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9670195

Does the owner of the cliud mining site follow this thread? If not, tell him it is because of Carra, that I am not investing a single penny in the site.
Actually I can guarantee, not 1 btc will be invested by anyone.

Carra23

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Quote from: redsn0w on November 29, 2014, 08:05:21 AM

I'm not sure but what is this Roll Eyes

?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/barwick-mining-signature-campaign-earn-upto-01-btc-each-month-overpaid-810608

You were the escrow, you know full well what it is.

At that time I was not interested in running a campaign, but I am now.

redsn0w

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#Free market

I'm not sure but what is this Roll Eyes

?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/barwick-mining-signature-campaign-earn-upto-01-btc-each-month-overpaid-810608

Carra23

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Quote from: 4ever on November 29, 2014, 07:58:33 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Ask the campaign owner to comment here please. We want to hear it from him.

Its a locked thread so I can not quote https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9670195

4ever

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Ask the campaign owner to comment here please. We want to hear it from him.

B1

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Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:45:14 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Fair enough.

Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:39:23 AM

How about you sir, you are also refuse for using escrow too Roll Eyes

It wouldn't make sense for an escrow to escrow funds.

I will remain in control of a large sum of BTC which was sent to me on behalf of bit-x.com, for the duration of the signature campaign.

I can see that your answer & carra answer is same Cheesy

marcotheminer

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:35:28 AM

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

Fair enough.

Quote from: B1 on November 29, 2014, 07:39:23 AM

How about you sir, you are also refuse for using escrow too Roll Eyes

It wouldn't make sense for an escrow to escrow funds.

I will remain in control of a large sum of BTC which was sent to me on behalf of bit-x.com, for the duration of the signature campaign.

B1

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Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 29, 2014, 04:20:29 AM

Did carra actually explained why he don't want to escrow the funds? It may seems like he's avoiding the subject.

There are two broad types of accusations against me:

I am actually a shill and a part of the mining company with probably a bought account: Even if I use a different escrow this allegation will still hold and considering the way every action has been twisted I am sure some way the action will be seen as confirming that.

I am not involved with the company and I can take the money and leave: If that were to happen I would not be here wasting my time setting up this campaign. I would have already run.

So far the participants seem mostly satisfied. If someone is apprehensive he can ask for the 10 day payouts. I have said earlier that any leftover funds would be used to bump up their pay to full, so good chance their pay will not be reduced in the end.

I have ignored any comments from shills and all, as I do not know what their motives are. So far, only you and redsn0w are the ones who have commented negatively and not hiding behind shill account, and so are the only ones I have replied to.

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

How about you sir, you are also refuse for using escrow too Roll Eyes

Quote from: marcotheminer on November 28, 2014, 12:50:30 PM

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on November 28, 2014, 12:42:18 PM

The rates posted by redsn0w are good... ohh your reputation is also good Grin

but my opinion please do use an escrow service Wink

Won't be necessary, funds will be held by myself.

botany

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

There are two broad types of accusations against me:

I am actually a shill and a part of the mining company with probably a bought account: Even if I use a different escrow this allegation will still hold and considering the way every action has been twisted I am sure some way the action will be seen as confirming that.

Actually, if you use an established escrow people won't care whether you are part of the mining company or not. It will become irrelevant and the allegations will automatically stop.

In your favour, the 10 day payout option is a positive. I don't think 10 days of free advertising is worth destroying a hero account.

Carra23

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Quote from: marcotheminer on November 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

I am the escrow. If they do not trust me then they can either take the 10 day option or apply next month, simple.

marcotheminer

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Quote from: Carra23 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:33 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 29, 2014, 04:20:29 AM

Did carra actually explained why he don't want to escrow the funds? It may seems like he's avoiding the subject.

There are two broad types of accusations against me:

I am actually a shill and a part of the mining company with probably a bought account: Even if I use a different escrow this allegation will still hold and considering the way every action has been twisted I am sure some way the action will be seen as confirming that.

I am not involved with the company and I can take the money and leave: If that were to happen I would not be here wasting my time setting up this campaign. I would have already run.

So far the participants seem mostly satisfied. If someone is apprehensive he can ask for the 10 day payouts. I have said earlier that any leftover funds would be used to bump up their pay to full, so good chance their pay will not be reduced in the end.

I have ignored any comments from shills and all, as I do not know what their motives are. So far, only you and redsn0w are the ones who have commented negatively and not hiding behind shill account, and so are the only ones I have replied to.

Simple solution: use an escrow. Not sure why you don't seem willing to (from what I've read).

B1

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Quote from: fox19891989 on November 29, 2014, 07:24:58 AM

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