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sr. member
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I vote refund, i'm ready to be done with this.
member
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Merit: 10
Where's the link to the Google spreadsheet with users/shares details?
Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250

Neptunes are about to be delivered and we are going to release the *NEW* shares corresponding to PSUs... KnC freely doubled our machines... Any other 20nm technology is about to be released in next months... Refund/Jupiter replacement period passed... Any "majority" took such "decision"... It wouldn't be the nature of a group BUY, nor of this... Nobody would like to materialize Ks of $ on his bank's account, from NOWHERE... Bitcoin IS a protocol, a vector (how much / where / when)... for someone a commodity, but IT'S NOT MONEY... Someone would better save its fiat money and coherently better leave this Forum together with his long time acquired prediction of the future... MINING HW DOESN'T GENERATE MONEY... ONLY CRYPTO... ... ...I'm sorry, but sometime I feel like I should start from scratch and recall/recap you all again WHY WE ARE HERE... and sometime I haven't all the time it would need, like now! Smiley

Best Wishes & Cheers!
-akw- 
member
Activity: 85
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I think its strange of KNC to refund more bitcoins than paid. People would hedge against KNC.

This is because while you pay KNC with bitcoin they are using bitpay, they get USD, so the refund is in USD.
There is nothing strange there.

The last chance we have to win something with this operation is asking for a refund to KNC. Getting the miners will be a total failure, we will never recover our investment because of the delay Sad

Might be that they handle it that way. And what would they have done when the bitcoin price did not drop but raise? Pay back less bitcoins than the buyer paid? Im not confident that the law would be on their side then. I mean the buyer paid with bitcoins and doesnt have to care what KNC does with the coins. Regardless of taking bitcoin as a commondity or as a currency. Its an exchange and i dont see that you could pay back less legally when refunding.
Though one should think their lawyers cleared that for them.

I know they are doing so because i know someone who has already requested a refund, that guy paid with BTC (through bitpay) and he got USD when refunded, so i know how are KNC working and that's why i say we must seriously think in a refund.

I got a refund in $ after paying in BTC.  I don't know why that's weird to people.  They priced the machine in dollars and I bought the btc specifically to pay KNC.  I just want the 13k.  I don't care if it's in coins or $.  Also, they were very clear that refunds would be made in $.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Can we please consider a KNC refund?
we paid 15btc or so for each miner, if we get refund we will get 40btc or so for each miner. When miners arrive i think they will never do 40 btc, so i ask again, can we please consider a KNC refund?
think about it.

Greetings

FYI - This group has already gone through with a refund:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347907.180




That's not a refund, that is fraud. If you want to see whats true refund look at this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347706.0;all

As you can see, people refunded (not scamed) are taking 181% of what they paid in btc.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
Can we please consider a KNC refund?
we paid 15btc or so for each miner, if we get refund we will get 40btc or so for each miner. When miners arrive i think they will never do 40 btc, so i ask again, can we please consider a KNC refund?
think about it.

Greetings

FYI - This group has already gone through with a refund:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347907.180


newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
I think its strange of KNC to refund more bitcoins than paid. People would hedge against KNC.

This is because while you pay KNC with bitcoin they are using bitpay, they get USD, so the refund is in USD.
There is nothing strange there.

The last chance we have to win something with this operation is asking for a refund to KNC. Getting the miners will be a total failure, we will never recover our investment because of the delay Sad

Might be that they handle it that way. And what would they have done when the bitcoin price did not drop but raise? Pay back less bitcoins than the buyer paid? Im not confident that the law would be on their side then. I mean the buyer paid with bitcoins and doesnt have to care what KNC does with the coins. Regardless of taking bitcoin as a commondity or as a currency. Its an exchange and i dont see that you could pay back less legally when refunding.
Though one should think their lawyers cleared that for them.

I know they are doing so because i know someone who has already requested a refund, that guy paid with BTC (through bitpay) and he got USD when refunded, so i know how are KNC working and that's why i say we must seriously think in a refund.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
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I think its strange of KNC to refund more bitcoins than paid. People would hedge against KNC.

This is because while you pay KNC with bitcoin they are using bitpay, they get USD, so the refund is in USD.
There is nothing strange there.

The last chance we have to win something with this operation is asking for a refund to KNC. Getting the miners will be a total failure, we will never recover our investment because of the delay Sad

Might be that they handle it that way. And what would they have done when the bitcoin price did not drop but raise? Pay back less bitcoins than the buyer paid? Im not confident that the law would be on their side then. I mean the buyer paid with bitcoins and doesnt have to care what KNC does with the coins. Regardless of taking bitcoin as a commondity or as a currency. Its an exchange and i dont see that you could pay back less legally when refunding.
Though one should think their lawyers cleared that for them.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
read this  Wink :

Neptune Performance Upgrade
Today, 09:01 AM
All,
KnCMiner Offers Two-for-One Deal on Bitcoin Mining’s Most Powerful Machine to Loyal Customers

STOCKHOLM, DATE, 2014 — KnCMiner (https://www.kncminer.com/), the most trusted brand in Bitcoin mining, announced today that it will give every current customer who has an outstanding order for a machine from its Neptune line’s first two batches a free Neptune from its upcoming “third batch” of Neptunes. This represents a $5,995 value and, perhaps more importantly, will provide KnCMiner’s most loyal customers with twice the hashing power they would have otherwise received with just one of these machines.


“We know that it is getting tougher to successfully mine in this environment and we want our customers to have every advantage we can give them,” said KnCMiner CEO Sam Cole. “So to combat the downward trend in mining returns for the customers who have been with us right from the beginning, and to show our competition we mean business, we will be over-delivering again on all orders.”


Neptune is KnCMiner’s first 20nm product. It features a minimum of 3,000 GH/s (aka 3 TH/s) of hashing speed, five times faster than the company’s most recent bestselling miner, the Jupiter. It also boasts a 30 percent reduction in watts-per-GH. Thanks to KnCMiner’s offer, each customer who ordered a first or second batch Neptune, will get a minimum 6TH for each order, with their original 3TH product shipped in June and the free “third batch” machine delivered in August.


“As miners face growing competition, and the increasing difficulty to mine Bitcoin, we will keep working on creative and unorthodox ways to put the best and most loyal customers on the planet first and provide them with the competitive edge they’ve come to expect from KnCMiner,” said Cole.


The company has recently announced other initiatives to engage all form of cryptominers, including the launch of a “Mini Neptune” machine (1500 GH/s, $3,495), and for all those Litecoin and Dogecoin enthusiasts, the availability of scrypt miners—the Titan (300 MH/s, $9,995) and “Mini Titan” (150 MH/s, $5,495). KnCMiner also offers cloud-hosted mining participation to existing customers. To learn more about these products and services, please visit https://www.kncminer.com.


About KnC

KnCMiner is the most trusted brand in Bitcoin mining. The company specializes in building leading-edge hardware that secures transactions for the distributed Bitcoin network and other digital currency pools like Litecoin and Dogecoin. KnCMiner offers a range of goods and services that allow for all levels of cryptomining participation, large and small. The company was founded in 2013 by Sam Cole, Marcus Erlandsson, Andreas Kennemar and Michael Unnebäck after the merger of ORSoC AB and Kennemar & Cole AB. The company’s leadership team has almost 30 years worth of experience in bringing excellent services and products to the global market. For more information, please visit https://www.kncminer.com.

link:
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/38332-neptune-performance-upgrade

happy Smiley
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
I think its strange of KNC to refund more bitcoins than paid. People would hedge against KNC.

This is because while you pay KNC with bitcoin they are using bitpay, they get USD, so the refund is in USD.
There is nothing strange there.

The last chance we have to win something with this operation is asking for a refund to KNC. Getting the miners will be a total failure, we will never recover our investment because of the delay Sad
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I think its strange of KNC to refund more bitcoins than paid. People would hedge against KNC.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Can we please consider a KNC refund?
we paid 15btc or so for each miner, if we get refund we will get 40btc or so for each miner. When miners arrive i think they will never do 40 btc, so i ask again, can we please consider a KNC refund?
think about it.

Greetings


I second this.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Can we please consider a KNC refund?
we paid 15btc or so for each miner, if we get refund we will get 40btc or so for each miner. When miners arrive i think they will never do 40 btc, so i ask again, can we please consider a KNC refund?
think about it.

Greetings
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
anykeywhy, great news! Sorry for the impatience, but I would like to know, is hardware in a way? Is it installed and configured? As you remember, I bought a few shares before.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3829100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3833976
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3870272

I clearly remember, don't worry! Wink

We are expecting #1batch deliveries to start in 1.5 months or so... As of now we have just opened NEW ORDERS from KnC latest announced batch of today!

Welcome & Cheers!
-akw-

1.5 months? lol 3 TH will be like a bfl jalepeno by then.
hero member
Activity: 639
Merit: 500
anykeywhy, great news! Sorry for the impatience, but I would like to know, is hardware in a way? Is it installed and configured? As you remember, I bought a few shares before.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3829100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3833976
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3870272

I clearly remember, don't worry! Wink

We are expecting #1batch deliveries to start in 1.5 months or so... As of now we have just opened NEW ORDERS from KnC latest announced batch of today!

Welcome & Cheers!
-akw-
Thanks for clear and fast answer!  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250

*** HOT NEWS UPDATE ***

WE ARE ADDING 3 NEPTUNE MORE TO THE FARM!!!

Please read OP for extended informations & welcome to you ALL!

*******************


AS OF NOW, 100/100 NEW NEPTUNE SHARES AVAILABLE!

>> HERE << you can check payments live!

Welcome & Cheers!
-akw-
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
anykeywhy, great news! Sorry for the impatience, but I would like to know, is hardware in a way? Is it installed and configured? As you remember, I bought a few shares before.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3829100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3833976
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3870272

I clearly remember, don't worry! Wink

We are expecting #1batch deliveries to start in 1.5 months or so... As of now we have just opened NEW ORDERS from KnC latest announced batch of today!

Welcome & Cheers!
-akw-
hero member
Activity: 639
Merit: 500
anykeywhy, great news! Sorry for the impatience, but I would like to know, is hardware in a way? Is it installed and configured? As you remember, I bought a few shares before.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3829100
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3833976
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3870272
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
great news! very interested!
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250


ADDITIONAL INFOS
:

- electricity cost here is of about 0.2€ kW/h  (with business contract)

- we are in the same time-zone of KnCminer =>> faster/immediate/next-day assistance/RMA/support

- top-level staff, equipment & hosting services included

- mining farm resource-sharing will maximize your net gain/profit

- transparent management

- NO hidden costs - NO extra fees

- full b2b & b2p connection if needed (eg. SEPA, formal invoices,...)

- WE ARE "PLUG&PLAY"



Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-
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