Hi guys/gals,
To simplify things and reduce clutter we're locking R9-12 and moving discussions to this new mega thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/black-arrow-r9-12-threads-dz-miners-co-op-plz-move-s-and-discussion-here-328996
Thanks! See you there!
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November 09, 2013, 05:13:10 AM
November 07, 2013, 11:19:27 PM
getting anxious are we.
I sold off most of my in hand coins over the last few days and like you would not mind see them sooner but this coop is getting bigger and shares are more complex. 1 good thing about waiting until the 15 for the money is BTC may be higher then 400 usd .
I will wait until the 15th and hope for the best.
In the meantime I have 40gh in usb sticks at my house and 44gh with addiction plus 6gh with cloud hashing. so some coins come in.
To be honest with you I spent most of my existing BTC buying...well, these shares because quick pay was no longer an option, as well as buying hashing equipment elsewhere so seeing the price skyrocket like that before I could buy the coins back (stupid dwolla!!!) has been pretty damned upsetting. I would have been better off holding off and just buying like R12 or R13 or something. *sigh* My poor selling decisions aside, I would like to be able to at least average my sales prices up a little and since most of my hashrate currently sits with this cooperative that's where most of my bitcoins are being minted =p Anyways, I suppose waiting another week might work out well, but it might also work out terribly but I was mostly thinking longer term anyway. Maybe if someday it can be semi-automated then doing it weekly would be more feasible. I think full automatic poses a lot of security risks so that isn't a good idea, but a semi-automated system that sorts out how much to give each person, which is then just confirmed by hand wouldn't be as bad I don't think.I sold off most of my in hand coins over the last few days and like you would not mind see them sooner but this coop is getting bigger and shares are more complex. 1 good thing about waiting until the 15 for the money is BTC may be higher then 400 usd .
I will wait until the 15th and hope for the best.
In the meantime I have 40gh in usb sticks at my house and 44gh with addiction plus 6gh with cloud hashing. so some coins come in.
The world of btc can be stressfull. I did cash some coins back and my hash is spread around. but 200gh or so of my hash is here and around 100gh is in other spots. So I feel the stress too.
I would like to cash some more but I have .4btc left. I will just sit my next payout will be on Sunday the 10th from addiction knc .
It won't be much around 44gh for 1 week is less then .3btc which means I will be at .7btc btc sunday.
My home mining will be .2btc so on sunday i am at .9-1.0 btc
the 200 gh on this site will be close to
3 btc on the 15th of the month…… 3btc is about 900 usd
It is a long time to wait in the btc world. i do not have much choice but to wait.
November 07, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
getting anxious are we.
I sold off most of my in hand coins over the last few days and like you would not mind see them sooner but this coop is getting bigger and shares are more complex. 1 good thing about waiting until the 15 for the money is BTC may be higher then 400 usd .
I will wait until the 15th and hope for the best.
In the meantime I have 40gh in usb sticks at my house and 44gh with addiction plus 6gh with cloud hashing. so some coins come in.
To be honest with you I spent most of my existing BTC buying...well, these shares because quick pay was no longer an option, as well as buying hashing equipment elsewhere so seeing the price skyrocket like that before I could buy the coins back (stupid dwolla!!!) has been pretty damned upsetting. I would have been better off holding off and just buying like R12 or R13 or something. *sigh* My poor selling decisions aside, I would like to be able to at least average my sales prices up a little and since most of my hashrate currently sits with this cooperative that's where most of my bitcoins are being minted =p Anyways, I suppose waiting another week might work out well, but it might also work out terribly but I was mostly thinking longer term anyway. Maybe if someday it can be semi-automated then doing it weekly would be more feasible. I think full automatic poses a lot of security risks so that isn't a good idea, but a semi-automated system that sorts out how much to give each person, which is then just confirmed by hand wouldn't be as bad I don't think.I sold off most of my in hand coins over the last few days and like you would not mind see them sooner but this coop is getting bigger and shares are more complex. 1 good thing about waiting until the 15 for the money is BTC may be higher then 400 usd .
I will wait until the 15th and hope for the best.
In the meantime I have 40gh in usb sticks at my house and 44gh with addiction plus 6gh with cloud hashing. so some coins come in.
November 07, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
The chart on that site seems to have been the same for the past few days, and the address listed doesn't look like it's receiving any more BTC.
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
At the bottom of the chart it says when it last updated, I do see the total received increasing so not sure what you meanIs there anywhere we can see current info?
This info has stayed the same since I first looked at it a day or two ago:
GROSS REVENUE 10.614162 $3099.23
SHARES ÷ 400
NET REVENUE PER SHARE = 0.02653541 $7.75
SHARE COST - 0.63000000 $123.00
NET PROFIT PER SHARE = 0.60346459 $115.25
CURRENT ROI = 95.79% 93.7%
OTHER
24 HOUR BTC 2.35903100 $688.81
EARNED NMC 31.06335800
It does say updated within the last 5 minutes, and the hash rates have increased, though.
November 07, 2013, 03:17:16 PM
The chart on that site seems to have been the same for the past few days, and the address listed doesn't look like it's receiving any more BTC.
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
At the bottom of the chart it says when it last updated, I do see the total received increasing so not sure what you meanIs there anywhere we can see current info?
This info has stayed the same since I first looked at it a day or two ago:
GROSS REVENUE 10.614162 $3099.23
SHARES ÷ 400
NET REVENUE PER SHARE = 0.02653541 $7.75
SHARE COST - 0.63000000 $123.00
NET PROFIT PER SHARE = 0.60346459 $115.25
CURRENT ROI = 95.79% 93.7%
OTHER
24 HOUR BTC 2.35903100 $688.81
EARNED NMC 31.06335800
It does say updated within the last 5 minutes, and the hash rates have increased, though.
November 07, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
Is there any way that payouts can eventually become a weekly thing? I know if you own like 1 share it wouldn't make sense but if you own a fair number of shares it would still be a pretty meaningful payout. I guess I'm mostly asking because BTC is hitting some pretty crazy highs right now and it'd be nice to have access to mined coins a little sooner.
Or it could be limited to people with a certain # of shares or something if it doesn't make sense. I guess I'm mostly asking because I own a fair # of shares so the payout is already somewhat meaningful.
Or it could be limited to people with a certain # of shares or something if it doesn't make sense. I guess I'm mostly asking because I own a fair # of shares so the payout is already somewhat meaningful.
getting anxious are we.
I sold off most of my in hand coins over the last few days and like you would not mind see them sooner but this coop is getting bigger and shares are more complex. 1 good thing about waiting until the 15 for the money is BTC may be higher then 400 usd .
I will wait until the 15th and hope for the best.
In the meantime I have 40gh in usb sticks at my house and 44gh with addiction plus 6gh with cloud hashing. so some coins come in.
November 07, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
It's not my business to speak for Thomas, but I can tell you that doing a payout is a great deal of very painstaking work, because if you mess up you have to fix it out of your own pocket.
R5 and R6 aren't nearly as complicated as R9 through R12, and you'd have a very hard time convincing me to change them (R5 and R6) over to being weekly payouts. It's donated time - other than the 5 shares I have in R5 and R6 - I don't get paid for the time I spend keeping the spreadsheets up to date and making the payouts. Same with the rest of the group.
A few hours twice a month is OK, but when you start talking about having to spend a couple of hours every week doing it, it's starting to become much too much like a job - and I already have a full time job that takes up too much of my time as it is.
R5 and R6 aren't nearly as complicated as R9 through R12, and you'd have a very hard time convincing me to change them (R5 and R6) over to being weekly payouts. It's donated time - other than the 5 shares I have in R5 and R6 - I don't get paid for the time I spend keeping the spreadsheets up to date and making the payouts. Same with the rest of the group.
A few hours twice a month is OK, but when you start talking about having to spend a couple of hours every week doing it, it's starting to become much too much like a job - and I already have a full time job that takes up too much of my time as it is.
November 07, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
Is there any way that payouts can eventually become a weekly thing? I know if you own like 1 share it wouldn't make sense but if you own a fair number of shares it would still be a pretty meaningful payout. I guess I'm mostly asking because BTC is hitting some pretty crazy highs right now and it'd be nice to have access to mined coins a little sooner.
Or it could be limited to people with a certain # of shares or something if it doesn't make sense. I guess I'm mostly asking because I own a fair # of shares so the payout is already somewhat meaningful.
Or it could be limited to people with a certain # of shares or something if it doesn't make sense. I guess I'm mostly asking because I own a fair # of shares so the payout is already somewhat meaningful.
November 07, 2013, 12:53:11 PM
The chart on that site seems to have been the same for the past few days, and the address listed doesn't look like it's receiving any more BTC.
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
At the bottom of the chart it says when it last updated, I do see the total received increasing so not sure what you mean Is there anywhere we can see current info?
November 07, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
Thank you!
November 07, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
The chart on that site seems to have been the same for the past few days, and the address listed doesn't look like it's receiving any more BTC.
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
71 286808 2,786.27 GH/sIs there anywhere we can see current info?
Rank #71 on the BTC Guild charts atm
November 07, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
The chart on that site seems to have been the same for the past few days, and the address listed doesn't look like it's receiving any more BTC.
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
Is there anywhere we can see current info?
November 07, 2013, 09:29:34 AM
The way we are structuring this wallet is slightly different and the first time its ever been used in a GB, the coins can be tracked by the payout address listed on our site which is now 1CR3h3SLewfcYK4XGySe4bgKwXV2VYqvVV
The wallets where the coins go are only accessible by me and DZ, the amount of coins mined can be determined by the chart at
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302
You can calculate your earnings by taking what is posted
9.300678 (minus hosting / management if applicable)
Divided by 400 multiplied by # of shares you have
The next week you just subtract the previous weeks from the total received which is posted on the site and blockchain.
The wallets where the coins go are only accessible by me and DZ, the amount of coins mined can be determined by the chart at
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302
You can calculate your earnings by taking what is posted
9.300678 (minus hosting / management if applicable)
Divided by 400 multiplied by # of shares you have
The next week you just subtract the previous weeks from the total received which is posted on the site and blockchain.
Hi,
what date do we get the first payout from rounds 10/11?
Thanks,
November 06, 2013, 10:58:12 PM
1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
Below is the wallet for my group buy of addiction it is 27 knc miners and some times has more then 180 coins
https://blockchain.info/address/1AddiCt8ghkH8zwPpcv8W8SxcQEoGTSJFS
Thanks for your attention to this Thomas.
this is the thread from that company
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.0;all
If you crack the password you can steal it.
Pretty much true for any address.
The 2 below
https://blockchain.info/address/13fGQGmb6Xi576ppJTkeXk34yDDRmvxjm4
https://blockchain.info/address/19NAwha8LGpRFEBwRgjH5ZMB9YyXeqyY9V
are our addresses for buys 5 and 6 they may give you an idea as to how payouts will be done for the r9-r12 group
Philip,
Thanks for taking the time to show me these other GB addresses:
Look at the difference between the addresses you gave compared to the one I posted and tell me why coin is leaving the 9, 10, 11, 12 address. Your previous GB address coin movement looks normal to me.
The new address will have the correct amount of BTC sent to it so the plugin works properly
The wallets where the coins go are only accessible by me and DZ, the amount of coins mined can be determined by the chart at
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302
You can calculate your earnings by taking what is posted
9.300678 (minus hosting / management if applicable)
Divided by 400 multiplied by # of shares you have
The next week you just subtract the previous weeks from the total received which is posted on the site and blockchain.
November 06, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
Below is the wallet for my group buy of addiction it is 27 knc miners and some times has more then 180 coins
https://blockchain.info/address/1AddiCt8ghkH8zwPpcv8W8SxcQEoGTSJFS
this is the thread from that company
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.0;all
If you crack the password you can steal it.
Pretty much true for any address.
The 2 below
https://blockchain.info/address/13fGQGmb6Xi576ppJTkeXk34yDDRmvxjm4
https://blockchain.info/address/19NAwha8LGpRFEBwRgjH5ZMB9YyXeqyY9V
are our addresses for buys 5 and 6 they may give you an idea as to how payouts will be done for the r9-r12 group
Philip,
Thanks for taking the time to show me these other GB addresses:
Look at the difference between the addresses you gave compared to the one I posted and tell me why coin is leaving the 9, 10, 11, 12 address. Your previous GB address coin movement looks normal to me.
The new address will have the correct amount of BTC sent to it so the plugin works properly
Thanks for your attention to this Thomas.
November 06, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
You are probably exceeding the internal amperage on the PSU's, over time performance will degrade then the PSU will just die. It is really hard getting multiple miners running on a single PSU even with multiple 12v rails. I ran into the same problem with my asicminer farm.
Nope.Corsair RM850 Blew @ 400w from the wall, and a OCZ1200 (that I had just gotten back from RMA) blew @ 625w at the wall. Well within 12v rail specs.
Also I have 12 boards running each on a RM850 without a problem
Maybe try getting a Seasonic Platinum 1000 unit? If the Seasonic blows up as well then there's definitely something wrong with how the boards are drawing power. Maybe you can measure how much each board is drawing with a meter? I'd suspect that it's probably one board that's drawing a lot more power than the others and the PSUs not dealing well with lopsided loading on the rails. It's worth it to spend more on a higher end PSU in this kind of situation since the lost mining time is going to kill any savings from going with cheaper units.
No offense, but neither of those psu would be considered "cheaper units". Infact the corsair rm850 is manufactured by seasonic anyways.
The problem was that the power supply boards did not like the 6PIN PCI-E on the corsair RM850's, so I had to swap in HX1050's, and have not had a problem since. We should be breaking 2.5thash total here shortly.
EDIT: Totals (All Active Workers) 2,688.92 GH/s And rising
getting closer. 4x 835gh = 3.34th would be correct? this would meet the minimum of 8.34 a share.
or will we get it to the 4th? 10gh a share.
BTW nice catch on 8 pin not 6 pin.
Totals (All Active Workers) 2,775.50 GH/s
Might break 2.8 before I pass out... But Im out of controllers, untill the new ones come tomorrow. Still, added an extra thash on today.
November 06, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
You are probably exceeding the internal amperage on the PSU's, over time performance will degrade then the PSU will just die. It is really hard getting multiple miners running on a single PSU even with multiple 12v rails. I ran into the same problem with my asicminer farm.
Nope.Corsair RM850 Blew @ 400w from the wall, and a OCZ1200 (that I had just gotten back from RMA) blew @ 625w at the wall. Well within 12v rail specs.
Also I have 12 boards running each on a RM850 without a problem
Maybe try getting a Seasonic Platinum 1000 unit? If the Seasonic blows up as well then there's definitely something wrong with how the boards are drawing power. Maybe you can measure how much each board is drawing with a meter? I'd suspect that it's probably one board that's drawing a lot more power than the others and the PSUs not dealing well with lopsided loading on the rails. It's worth it to spend more on a higher end PSU in this kind of situation since the lost mining time is going to kill any savings from going with cheaper units.
No offense, but neither of those psu would be considered "cheaper units". Infact the corsair rm850 is manufactured by seasonic anyways.
The problem was that the power supply boards did not like the 6PIN PCI-E on the corsair RM850's, so I had to swap in HX1050's, and have not had a problem since. We should be breaking 2.5thash total here shortly.
EDIT: Totals (All Active Workers) 2,688.92 GH/s And rising
getting closer. 4x 835gh = 3.34th would be correct? this would meet the minimum of 8.34 a share.
or will we get it to the 4th? 10gh a share.
BTW nice catch on 8 pin not 6 pin.
November 06, 2013, 08:19:58 PM
1JazVMG7E47ceaTnwbGzeGsrAQeURniwZV
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
This is the address you have posted to GB 9,10,11,12..
What is the distrubution of coins from this wallet? How do you guys structure the safety of coins between payouts?
Regards,
Below is the wallet for my group buy of addiction it is 27 knc miners and some times has more then 180 coins
https://blockchain.info/address/1AddiCt8ghkH8zwPpcv8W8SxcQEoGTSJFS
this is the thread from that company
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244042.0;all
If you crack the password you can steal it.
Pretty much true for any address.
The 2 below
https://blockchain.info/address/13fGQGmb6Xi576ppJTkeXk34yDDRmvxjm4
https://blockchain.info/address/19NAwha8LGpRFEBwRgjH5ZMB9YyXeqyY9V
are our addresses for buys 5 and 6 they may give you an idea as to how payouts will be done for the r9-r12 group
Philip,
Thanks for taking the time to show me these other GB addresses:
Look at the difference between the addresses you gave compared to the one I posted and tell me why coin is leaving the 9, 10, 11, 12 address. Your previous GB address coin movement looks normal to me.
The new address will have the correct amount of BTC sent to it so the plugin works properly
November 06, 2013, 07:07:56 PM
You are probably exceeding the internal amperage on the PSU's, over time performance will degrade then the PSU will just die. It is really hard getting multiple miners running on a single PSU even with multiple 12v rails. I ran into the same problem with my asicminer farm.
Nope.Corsair RM850 Blew @ 400w from the wall, and a OCZ1200 (that I had just gotten back from RMA) blew @ 625w at the wall. Well within 12v rail specs.
Also I have 12 boards running each on a RM850 without a problem
Maybe try getting a Seasonic Platinum 1000 unit? If the Seasonic blows up as well then there's definitely something wrong with how the boards are drawing power. Maybe you can measure how much each board is drawing with a meter? I'd suspect that it's probably one board that's drawing a lot more power than the others and the PSUs not dealing well with lopsided loading on the rails. It's worth it to spend more on a higher end PSU in this kind of situation since the lost mining time is going to kill any savings from going with cheaper units.
No offense, but neither of those psu would be considered "cheaper units". Infact the corsair rm850 is manufactured by seasonic anyways.
The problem was that the power supply boards did not like the 6PIN PCI-E on the corsair RM850's, so I had to swap in HX1050's, and have not had a problem since. We should be breaking 2.5thash total here shortly.
EDIT: Totals (All Active Workers) 2,688.92 GH/s And rising
November 06, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
You are probably exceeding the internal amperage on the PSU's, over time performance will degrade then the PSU will just die. It is really hard getting multiple miners running on a single PSU even with multiple 12v rails. I ran into the same problem with my asicminer farm.
Nope.Corsair RM850 Blew @ 400w from the wall, and a OCZ1200 (that I had just gotten back from RMA) blew @ 625w at the wall. Well within 12v rail specs.
Also I have 12 boards running each on a RM850 without a problem
Maybe try getting a Seasonic Platinum 1000 unit? If the Seasonic blows up as well then there's definitely something wrong with how the boards are drawing power. Maybe you can measure how much each board is drawing with a meter? I'd suspect that it's probably one board that's drawing a lot more power than the others and the PSUs not dealing well with lopsided loading on the rails. It's worth it to spend more on a higher end PSU in this kind of situation since the lost mining time is going to kill any savings from going with cheaper units.
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