[CLOSED] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 pre-order - Specs: 0.69$/GH + 0.46W/GH - page 17.

jimmothy

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i can call you a troll whenever i wish

You're free to do so now. But I don't think it would be accurate in this thread at least. I am a fan of spondoolies just not preorders. And it would be trolling to suggest preorders are entirely a good idea given the history of bitcoin asics so far. Spondoolies may be the first company to reliably hit shipping dates on preorders but the only thing I fear is that this would then be seen as acceptable allowing the scummy companies to thrive.

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Quote from: gallery2000 on April 28, 2014, 03:55:05 PM

what is the incentive for me to give somebody my money so they can research new chips to make my current technology obsolete? I am not crazy. I rather have Spoondolosis fail and prolong my current 28nm technology for another 5 months.

Think hard before you give your money to some company to make your miners obsolete.

The research of the chip is done. You are giving money so that SP-Tech can arrange their supply chain to build the units in August. They will have chips in July. The assembly of couple hundred units takes some time, money and preparation.

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 04:01:59 PM

I don't have 0.5 btc to give to charity and im not entirely confident I will win. I just know that historically shipping dates/estimated specs are missed. And I was talking about 0.4w/gh at chip level not system but either works.

0.1btc is all I have to donate. Maybe someone else can add to the charity bet if you insist on 0.5.

Ok. Agree on 0.1 to Sean's Outpost+i can call you a troll whenever i wish. I agree on 0.4w/gh at chip level, but that's a bit hard to measure. I will let you decide the outcome of this bet since i have no problem donating 0.1.

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 04:01:59 PM

... I just know that historically shipping dates/estimated specs are missed ...

We're taking enough margins to make sure the specs and dates will be accurate. In time, you'll recognize that.

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

Sorry I didn't know the bet was directed towards me. I'd be happy to take the bet but not for 1btc. That is too much for me to gamble especially because I think that out of all the asic manufacturers, SP has the best chance of delivering on time and on spec. But I still find it unlikely.

So if you want to bet here would be my terms:

- 0.1btc donated to seansoutpost (loser pays)
- SP must deliver their entire August batch no later than 1 week after August.
- SP30 specs must reach a minimum of 5th/machine and 0.4w/gh (efficiency must be reached above 5th)

Deal?

LOL? So wait. First you claim that they won't deliver in time and in spec and now you chicken out? Let's make it 0.5 BTC+free name calling. 0.4w/gh? How did you came up with that? It's not what they announced and it's not in their specs. If you agree on 0.5w/GH then we can do it, but you are requesting a better efficiency than advertised. Minimum 5TH and 0.5w/gh and we have a deal.

I don't have 0.5 btc to give to charity and im not entirely confident I will win. I just know that historically shipping dates/estimated specs are missed. And I was talking about 0.4w/gh at chip level not system but either works.

0.1btc is all I have to donate. Maybe someone else can add to the charity bet if you insist on 0.5.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 03:54:19 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:39:29 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

Sorry I didn't know the bet was directed towards me. I'd be happy to take the bet but not for 1btc. That is too much for me to gamble especially because I think that out of all the asic manufacturers, SP has the best chance of delivering on time and on spec. But I still find it unlikely.

So if you want to bet here would be my terms:

- 0.1btc donated to seansoutpost (loser pays)
- SP must deliver their entire August batch no later than 1 week after August.
- SP30 specs must reach a minimum of 5th/machine and 0.4w/gh (efficiency must be reached above 5th)

Deal?

LOL? So wait. First you claim that they won't deliver in time and in spec and now you chicken out? Let's make it 0.5 BTC+free name calling. 0.4w/gh? How did you came up with that? It's not what they announced and it's not in their specs. If you agree on 0.5w/GH then we can do it, but you are requesting a better efficiency than advertised. Minimum 5TH and 0.5w/gh and we have a deal.

Indeed, we're at 0.35 W/GHs at the ASIC level and below 0.5 W/Ghs at the system level (Working on our DC2DC design so we'll be below 0.45 W/Ghs at the system level)

I've mistaken in reading jimmothy post. I've assume he is referring to below 0.4 W/GHs in the ASIC level.

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what is the incentive for me to give somebody my money so they can research new chips to make my current technology obsolete? I am not crazy. I rather have Spoondolosis fail and prolong my current 28nm technology for another 5 months.

Think hard before you give your money to some company to make your miners obsolete.

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:39:29 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

Sorry I didn't know the bet was directed towards me. I'd be happy to take the bet but not for 1btc. That is too much for me to gamble especially because I think that out of all the asic manufacturers, SP has the best chance of delivering on time and on spec. But I still find it unlikely.

So if you want to bet here would be my terms:

- 0.1btc donated to seansoutpost (loser pays)
- SP must deliver their entire August batch no later than 1 week after August.
- SP30 specs must reach a minimum of 5th/machine and 0.4w/gh (efficiency must be reached above 5th)

Deal?

LOL? So wait. First you claim that they won't deliver in time and in spec and now you chicken out? Let's make it 0.5 BTC+free name calling. 0.4w/gh? How did you came up with that? It's not what they announced and it's not in their specs. If you agree on 0.5w/GH then we can do it, but you are requesting a better efficiency than advertised. Minimum 5TH and 0.5w/gh and we have a deal.

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Will he?

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:39:29 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

Sorry I didn't know the bet was directed towards me. I'd be happy to take the bet but not for 1btc. That is too much for me to gamble especially because I think that out of all the asic manufacturers, SP has the best chance of delivering on time and on spec. But I still find it unlikely.

So if you want to bet here would be my terms:

- 0.1btc donated to seansoutpost (loser pays)
- SP must deliver their entire August batch no later than 1 week after August.
- SP30 specs must reach a minimum of 5th/machine and 0.4w/gh (efficiency must be reached above 5th)

Deal?

Jimmothy, I like you. You'll loose.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

Sorry I didn't know the bet was directed towards me. I'd be happy to take the bet but not for 1btc. That is too much for me to gamble especially because I think that out of all the asic manufacturers, SP has the best chance of delivering on time and on spec. But I still find it unlikely.

So if you want to bet here would be my terms:

- 0.1btc donated to seansoutpost (loser pays)
- SP must deliver their entire August batch no later than 1 week after August.
- SP30 specs must reach a minimum of 5th/machine and 0.4w/gh (efficiency must be reached above 5th)

Deal?

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

Since you won't take the bet let's revert to name calling. If SP-Tech delivers on time and on spec i will call you as i wish(maybe troll). If SP-Tech won't deliver on time and spec feel free to call me as you wish. Deal?

tzortz

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Ok, then.

What if nobody else is in the game until then, and is only Spondoolies?

Huh?

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Are you talking with chances??

Aren't we all? Unless you have a magic crystal ball then you don't know what the future will hold.

tzortz

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He he !

Nice post! Wink

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Quote from: Biffa on April 28, 2014, 02:05:05 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

And how would you look if the SP30 delivers in time and on specs? The chinese only stole one chip design. Do you think they will be able to steal them all? If Bitmine.ch did a poor contract with Innosilicon doesn't mean that this will happen with all companies.

Looks like you cracked 300 mate, well done!

Not yet. There are only 298 units sold. I need to refund 0.2. (mistakes)

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 02:17:39 PM

I highly doubt they deliver both on time and on spec.

And the chinese didn't steal the a1 not that it matters considering there are many chips available that match it. (Avalon,bitfury,AM,hashlast)

I have no idea what the chinese will get their hands on by time the sp30 is finally shipping but there is a chance a competing chip pops up out of nowhere and floods the market.

Put your money down on it? If SP-Tech delivers SP30 units on spec in August do you agree to pay 1 BTC to Sean's Outpost? If they fail to deliver i will pay 1 BTC to Sean's Outpost.

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 02:17:39 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

And how would you look if the SP30 delivers in time and on specs? The chinese only stole one chip design. Do you think they will be able to steal them all? If Bitmine.ch did a poor contract with Innosilicon doesn't mean that this will happen with all companies.

I highly doubt they deliver both on time and on spec.

And the chinese didn't steal the a1 not that it matters considering there are many chips available that match it. (Avalon,bitfury,AM,hashlast)

I have no idea what the chinese will get their hands on by time the sp30 is finally shipping but there is a chance a competing chip pops up out of nowhere and floods the market.

Are you talking with chances??

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

And how would you look if the SP30 delivers in time and on specs? The chinese only stole one chip design. Do you think they will be able to steal them all? If Bitmine.ch did a poor contract with Innosilicon doesn't mean that this will happen with all companies.

I highly doubt they deliver both on time and on spec.

And the chinese didn't steal the a1 not that it matters considering there are many chips available that match it. (Avalon,bitfury,AM,hashlast)

I have no idea what the chinese will get their hands on by time the sp30 is finally shipping but there is a chance a competing chip pops up out of nowhere and floods the market.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 28, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

And how would you look if the SP30 delivers in time and on specs? The chinese only stole one chip design. Do you think they will be able to steal them all? If Bitmine.ch did a poor contract with Innosilicon doesn't mean that this will happen with all companies.

Looks like you cracked 300 mate, well done!

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 28, 2014, 01:41:33 PM

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

And how would you look if the SP30 delivers in time and on specs? The chinese only stole one chip design. Do you think they will be able to steal them all? If Bitmine.ch did a poor contract with Innosilicon doesn't mean that this will happen with all companies.

jimmothy

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If they do deliver you will have the best miner on the market.

Same thing has been said for just about every asic preorder in history.

It will be the best until random chinese company ______ begins shipping their equivalent hardware for less and a month earlier.

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