Topic: [CLOSED] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 - Specs: 6TH/s + 0.46W/GH - page 5. (Read 28468 times)
no body send this guy any BTC
Just got a spam mail from bitmadrid. (note the . at the end), the price quoted is too good to be true. Please beware, he probably thought I am new to btc from my low post count.
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Hi guys,
I have finally had some feedback from Spondoolies-Tech.
Some great news and some not so great news unfortunately.
So starting with the great news, the price.
I now have a confirmed group buy discount price of 5.27BTC per unit inc. express shipping or 1 month free hosting. They have stated this will be a significant saving over the normal retail price due to our early order and our ongoing support of the company.
The not so great news, availability.
They have stated they will only be in a position to offer the group buy a total of 40 units at the quoted price due to the significant demand in general for the product.
Due to limited availability this group buy will be run on a strict first come first served basis.
Should you wish to place an order the payment address for the group buy is :
1PRrbRprK35MdaugyyCR5AHYGJghghgAyH
After payment please pm me the transaction I.D, your username and delivery address/hosting option.
Thanks,
bitmadrid
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Hi guys,
I have finally had some feedback from Spondoolies-Tech.
Some great news and some not so great news unfortunately.
So starting with the great news, the price.
I now have a confirmed group buy discount price of 5.27BTC per unit inc. express shipping or 1 month free hosting. They have stated this will be a significant saving over the normal retail price due to our early order and our ongoing support of the company.
The not so great news, availability.
They have stated they will only be in a position to offer the group buy a total of 40 units at the quoted price due to the significant demand in general for the product.
Due to limited availability this group buy will be run on a strict first come first served basis.
Should you wish to place an order the payment address for the group buy is :
1PRrbRprK35MdaugyyCR5AHYGJghghgAyH
After payment please pm me the transaction I.D, your username and delivery address/hosting option.
Thanks,
bitmadrid
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I'm in for 5 for the right price which I don't think will happen 
Dear buyers,
I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.
I feel unable to give a final price yet.
I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.
I hope this has no influence on SPTech.
I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.
I feel unable to give a final price yet.
I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.
I hope this has no influence on SPTech.
Did they catch a missile at the plant?
Did you hear from them?
So far more then 1 dozen missiles have passed through the iron dome.
any news at all?
Dear buyers,
I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.
I feel unable to give a final price yet.
I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.
I hope this has no influence on SPTech.
I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.
I feel unable to give a final price yet.
I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.
I hope this has no influence on SPTech.
We say in my country ´ship that its arrival is delayed is loaded full of shit¨.
So the longer the time passes its more unlikely we will hear any good news or news at all.
I understand that SP tech is a serious company and all it wants is to sell but want more money for its items as any healthy thinking company.
As I have read from buyers before in this thread they will spent a specific amount of money.So the less units for most money is their goal.As at today used SP10 are sold on the bay for about 2300 USD
This kind of group buy, puts pressure in the company and finally they dont make any kind of agreement, at least with someone that is not closelly related with the company....
So am unsure if we will hear any good price at least not until the first SP30 will be delivered.
August is only 15d ays away and the previous GB buyers are anxious.
I am anxious too to see what will happen....
Maybe Spondoolies if reads this place gives us a clue of their reaction.
So the longer the time passes its more unlikely we will hear any good news or news at all.
I understand that SP tech is a serious company and all it wants is to sell but want more money for its items as any healthy thinking company.
As I have read from buyers before in this thread they will spent a specific amount of money.So the less units for most money is their goal.As at today used SP10 are sold on the bay for about 2300 USD
This kind of group buy, puts pressure in the company and finally they dont make any kind of agreement, at least with someone that is not closelly related with the company....
So am unsure if we will hear any good price at least not until the first SP30 will be delivered.
August is only 15d ays away and the previous GB buyers are anxious.
I am anxious too to see what will happen....
Maybe Spondoolies if reads this place gives us a clue of their reaction.
Have you got a final price yet? Today is the 15th. (mouth watering) Is there a way to split a 220 plug? Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.
Hoping for an update soon. Price here is everything. I'm surprised we haven't had an update.
Please count me in for the SP30 Group Buy.
Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.
Bring on the price war!
Yeah... if you've got an SP10 and are running it on 110V power, you can get rid of the PSU limit. You have to SSH into the miner and just do the following:Bring on the price war!
Code:
cd /etc
touch mg_ignore_110_fcc
You can see the tech blog post here on the SP-Tech site: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2
Hope this helps... and gets you some extra hashing, too
Thanks for the info, but I don't actually own a SP10, I was thinking about getting it, but never got it due to the limitation at that time.
Have you got a final price yet? Today is the 15th. (mouth watering) Is there a way to split a 220 plug? Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.
Yes, you can with this plug splitter http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TO7130/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Have you got a final price yet? Today is the 15th. (mouth watering) Is there a way to split a 220 plug? Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.
$3,200 per unit would be a fair price giving a 90 day ROI: https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/ba679b3ec5
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
The difficulty is just wrong there.
Can you elaborate further?
Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.
Bring on the price war!
Yeah... if you've got an SP10 and are running it on 110V power, you can get rid of the PSU limit. You have to SSH into the miner and just do the following:Bring on the price war!
Code:
cd /etc
touch mg_ignore_110_fcc
You can see the tech blog post here on the SP-Tech site: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2
Hope this helps... and gets you some extra hashing, too
The voltage doesn't matter...
There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w
This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits
There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w
This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits
Voltage matters (higher efficiency and more stable power). Its not just about the amps. I recently had my house updated to 300A total due to a recent fire caused by all my mining gears (overloaded the main meter) and I had six 20A breakers installed just for mining.
The SP30's come with two server PSU's, so you can split them between two circuits, but the voltage has a big impact. You can check the SP10 threads, no one on 110v get's anywhere near 1.4TH/s. I believe the highest I remember reading about was 1.3TH/s, and that was with someone blasting the a/c right in the intake fans to keep everything very cool and stabilize the voltage so some doesn't get lost as heat, and with a lot of fiddling around with the settings.
EDIT:
Also, you should never max out your circuit breakers. Treat a 20A breaker as a 18A breaker. It's best to leave at least 10% headroom.
So it would be more like 18A * 110v = 1980w per circuit. The SP30's have two 1200w PSU's, presumably pulling 1300w each (they advertise 2500w total, I highly doubt that). So as long as you split between two different circuits, the amperage won't be an issue, but the voltage still will be.
In hindsight, I wish I had those guys install at least two 220v lines, I regret that -_-' It would've only cost me about $75 more at that time, now I would have to pay about $800 to have everything redone.
As for the SP30, if I do end up purchasing one, it's going to be hosted. I've got a full breaker box, so if I wanted to get more power, I'd have to get the entire thing redone, and up my service from 200A to 300A, and then put in a few extra 240V/30A circuits and the Nema outlets. Way more than I'm willing to invest for my mining gear. Maybe in the future I'll consider it, but for now...
EDIT: By the way, bitmadrid, it's the 15th. What's the final price you've negotiated?
Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.
Bring on the price war!
The voltage doesn't matter...
There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w
This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits
There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w
This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits
Voltage matters (higher efficiency and more stable power). Its not just about the amps. I recently had my house updated to 300A total due to a recent fire caused by all my mining gears (overloaded the main meter) and I had six 20A breakers installed just for mining.
The SP30's come with two server PSU's, so you can split them between two circuits, but the voltage has a big impact. You can check the SP10 threads, no one on 110v get's anywhere near 1.4TH/s. I believe the highest I remember reading about was 1.3TH/s, and that was with someone blasting the a/c right in the intake fans to keep everything very cool and stabilize the voltage so some doesn't get lost as heat, and with a lot of fiddling around with the settings.
EDIT:
Also, you should never max out your circuit breakers. Treat a 20A breaker as a 18A breaker. It's best to leave at least 10% headroom.
So it would be more like 18A * 110v = 1980w per circuit. The SP30's have two 1200w PSU's, presumably pulling 1300w each (they advertise 2500w total, I highly doubt that). So as long as you split between two different circuits, the amperage won't be an issue, but the voltage still will be.
In hindsight, I wish I had those guys install at least two 220v lines, I regret that -_-' It would've only cost me about $75 more at that time, now I would have to pay about $800 to have everything redone.
As for the SP30, if I do end up purchasing one, it's going to be hosted. I've got a full breaker box, so if I wanted to get more power, I'd have to get the entire thing redone, and up my service from 200A to 300A, and then put in a few extra 240V/30A circuits and the Nema outlets. Way more than I'm willing to invest for my mining gear. Maybe in the future I'll consider it, but for now...
EDIT: By the way, bitmadrid, it's the 15th. What's the final price you've negotiated?
Even with $3800 it will never ROI. For getting an ROI the price must be at $3000, that without considering shipping cost and local taxes. Dont say the bitcoin price will increase bullshit, if you are sure about the price increase then buy bitcoin directly now using the same amount, will give you more return. The mining game is over unless the manufactures understand what is an ROI for the buyers, now they want to dig the gold with their own shovel.
The following difficulty increases will be higher than the past couple of ones as neptunes started to ship, more than 1000 SP10 and SP30's will be address to the network in no time.
Not saying its any ones fault, just sharing my thoughts..
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/8650cc05ef
The following difficulty increases will be higher than the past couple of ones as neptunes started to ship, more than 1000 SP10 and SP30's will be address to the network in no time.
Not saying its any ones fault, just sharing my thoughts..
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/8650cc05ef
we payed for it all with prebuys and not using paypal
$3,200 per unit would be a fair price giving a 90 day ROI: https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/ba679b3ec5
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
The difficulty is just wrong there.
$3,200 per unit would be a fair price giving a 90 day ROI: https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/ba679b3ec5
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.
Are you forgetting spondoolies goal of 5,000 sp30/month?(soon to be 5,000 sp50/month) Or asicminers huge production capacity? Or megabigpowers "up to 50ph/month" franchising program? Or 21e6's secret mining operation? Or bitfurys 20MW mine? Bitmain? Avalon?
The list goes on..
The list goes on..
AsicMiner may have a huge production capacity, but the sales are damn slow. What happened with 100PH+ in 2 months?
willing to bet 10 btc on it? The diff on 8/14 is >=42% higher than today?
Sorry my magic crystal ball only sees 5 days in to the future..
What makes you think the difficulty is going to suddenly slow down?
Especially after this:
Historical Difficulty Increase
30 Day 47 %
60 Day 96 %
90 Day 183 %
Are you really willing to gamble 10btc on something that may or may not happen but entirely could?
Are you assuming that the 30PH/month from spondoolies is the only hardware that will be added to the network after august?
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