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October 26, 2014, 03:47:43 PM
Well I think if the execution is good than the potential is better than Doge and Stellar.   Look at Yandex and VK, they are bigger than Facebook and Google in that region (and came after).  

Like Facebook has 1.2 million users in Russia but VK has 75 million (same disparity is true in Ukraine, Baltic, et cetera).


I have no idea what the Bitcoin capitalization is in *just* Eastern Europe but maybe Bitcoin is $250 - $500 million, so an Eastern European equivalent could surpass that if we take VK and Yandex's example.






I think is gonna be bigger than those.. and i agree with the need of promoting it. But man.. u can't tell 3 points A, B and C like if you have 3 points and fill them with crap. Devs are working.. they have a plan and they stick to it.. now if you dont like it too bad. They want to promote after client, poa and another exchange is addes. Id like to see the price rocket sky now but that would be just an unwise pump and this is not for a fucking pump and dump.. If u want a pump and dump im sure u know there is things like doge and nubbit. So go play your cards there.

And if you want to make a valid point make it. and dont say so many probably, might, maybe and start talking about "other core feature" that you or noone knows about. Your only valid point about all what u said is "lack of promotion".. the rest was all CRAP. And devs already explained why there is lack of promotion. because they dont want to promote it yet.
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October 26, 2014, 03:45:19 PM
Well I think if the execution is good than the potential is better than Doge and Stellar.   Look at Yandex and VK, they are bigger than Facebook and Google in that region (and came after).  

Like Facebook has 1.2 million users in Russia but VK has 75 million in Russia (same disparity is true in Ukraine, Baltic, et cetera).


I have no idea what the Bitcoin capitalization is in *just* Eastern Europe but maybe Bitcoin is $250 - $500 million, so an Eastern European equivalent could match this or exceed it. 


koop and silk should contact btc-e to add NODE Grin
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October 26, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
I wasn't involved in the vote about the distribution but the Ebrelus thing is something I don't care about.  



I'm worried about

A) Lack of promotion (paying 18 year old Ukrainian girls 25 cents to like the NODE page on VK doesn't count - they probably have no idea what NODE is and certainty aren't buying any.  And a lot of these profiles are clearly just bots as they have like almost no real activity on them)

B) PoA which probably won't be out for months or if it is released then it's premature with problems (like Crypti).

C) Other core features might still be a year from implementing.

If the allegations are true then NODE is something ran by two highschool / junior college aged Ukrainian brothers, probably boy geniuses to an extent but the execution is bad, the coin is likely going to die before it's functional enough for new users.




Shut up troll. Dont you get tired of telling crap and lies? "paying 18 year old Ukrainian girls 25 cents to like the NODE page on VK doesn't count" Wtf are you talking about. You r mentally ill.
All A B C point are so stupid that i really hope u r a troll because otherwise u are reaaaaaly dumb man. Note that i dont even argue any of your points because they are all crap based on things u suppose based on more crap which is based on well... troll
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October 26, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
I wasn't involved in the vote about the distribution but the Ebrelus thing is something I don't care about.  



I'm worried about

A) Lack of promotion (paying 18 year old Ukrainian girls 25 cents to like the NODE page on VK doesn't count - they probably have no idea what NODE is and certainty aren't buying any.  And a lot of these profiles are clearly just bots as they have like almost no real activity on them)

B) PoA which probably won't be out for months or if it is released then it's premature with problems (like Crypti).

C) Other core features might still be a year from implementing.

If the allegations are true then NODE is something ran by two highschool / junior college aged Ukrainian brothers, probably boy geniuses to an extent but the execution is bad, the coin is likely going to die before it's functional enough for new users.



+1
Marketing is number 1, features number 2
proof : doge. stellar
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October 26, 2014, 03:00:17 PM
I wasn't involved in the vote about the distribution but the Ebrelus thing is something I don't care about.  



I'm worried about

A) Lack of promotion (paying 18 year old Ukrainian girls 25 cents to like the NODE page on VK doesn't count - they probably have no idea what NODE is and certainty aren't buying any.  And a lot of these profiles are clearly just bots as they have like almost no real activity on them)

B) PoA which probably won't be out for months or if it is released then it's premature with problems (like Crypti).

C) Other core features might still be a year from implementing.

If the allegations are true then NODE is something ran by two highschool / junior college aged Ukrainian brothers, probably boy geniuses to an extent but the execution is bad, the coin is likely going to die before it's functional enough for new users.


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October 26, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
I don't care what you did with coins. Investment is investment. If you agreed to manage distribution than do it right and fullfill promises. Writtem word and contract is sacred. You can't change it just because you like it. It is still in power. Equal share for each stakeholder.
 
It is your problem how you will get coins. You created this problem so solve it like a man not a coward and show that there still left some credibility in this project. 

You owe me still the rest of my rightfull stake.

This is not up to you to decide what i can do or not. Now it is issue which should be addressed by people higher than you because problem started by your incompetence and you can't solve it properly all the time trying to keep face by denying your obvious mistakes.

I'm simply waiting for opinion of Skillroad. This is not a minor case this issue is something affecting whole community and future of this coin.
Read again all promised given to initial stakeholders and make up mistakes. People are watching. 
sr. member
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October 26, 2014, 02:19:40 PM
@ Ebrelus

Like i wrote you in PM! I know you are mad, but seriously there is nothing we can do about this issue!

The coins are gone - distributed to the whole community!

All the arguing won't bring you anywhere!


We've transferred the guaranteed 20k, and there are 2 ways you can take:
- Make the Coin better with your own contribution or not!

It is up to you!
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October 26, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
only wish for next version : an option to the change the interface, that the buttons are on the left side and not right
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October 26, 2014, 01:52:31 PM
I'm waiting what Skillroad will say for this way of treating members you owe rightfull share.

whitecloud If someone payed for share his right is not disappearing only because someone had decide himself without asking to change rules. And yes these coins should have waited as long as needed but it was robbed instead. And if you have taken part of them you didn't pay for than you are also responsible for this robbery and you owe money to these robbed. Think about it.

You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
It doesn't matter if he's an active member or not. When we paid for our stake there was neither a rule like "be active member" or "check the thread at least once a week" or anything else like that. Just give this guy HIS stake and all is good.  Roll Eyes

But you are wrong. There are these coins because each of members count. And it is you who stolen all coins of people who paed for them. They still have right to get them. And you personally are in dept. You are no better than guy who stole coins of mintpal bro.

The way how you treat members of community, initial investors is showing what is level of trust for this coin.

Thanks bro.
That's exactly the kind of discrimination showing who is responsible for future of this project.

I would have these coins if YOU would not forget to read what active members are writing and was doing properly your job.
Ignore me, break my rights but it changing nothing. It only affects badly reputation of coin because everyone can read how it was now and see how you treat members.
  

Quote from: koop4u
The 20k rule was proposed for this kind of situations and others! The distribution was made on active deployed account numbers! In it was critically important, that the accounts were in place, so the distribution can start!
So it was made to not pay coins to people who should get it since they payed for it! Incredible!

If someone joined and payed you had his nick on BTT to contact him. You didn't contact none of these people. It wa better to ignore them and play on time to get rid of them huh. You were just lazy and didn't do your job properly or wanted bigger share on cost of these lost members.

So many changes of rules were insane and only was harming whole distribution process. People waited and waited, lokking and looking, threads were changing, new websides created but you didn't look there to read what people were writing there.

If i would know there was some other thread and that i need to repeat what is my new account nr also in some other thread and third time on PM (since after posting old acc number koop didn't add it) you think i wouldn't do it? I was very active in first months but how long can person keep waiting? Normal person write one time and stick to rules he read but not here, that distribution was different and you didn't give a shit about initial members and robbed them of coins and promised share!

Quote from: koop4u
The community was informed and everyone was ok with it! Not to mention that that there was an 2 months of account submission deadline! Which was in my opinion enough to check if your account was or not added to the spreadsheet!

Guess what it wasn't as you see. I was and still am on the list. How many such accounts you have there? Was it a problem to ask on PM?
I posted account number but you simply didn't read it. So is it my fault or yours koop? 2 months was too short to read it?

You wrote to me on PM today that NXTL.EU forum was only for short time and that it was closed because it couldn't be checked if someone is writing there true informations. I agree you have a point here.

But problem is i wrote there also my BTT account link for contact to prove what i was writting there was made by me. Did you read it, checked by writing me PM here? You didn't. So again this argument is invalid because if you create a forum you should pay attention to it and you ignored it.
 

Quote from: koop4u
After the deadline, there was a calculation presented which specifically said: that late accounts will receive 20k nodes to compensate the late users( that might wake up who knows when) and for the risk of omitting sockpuppets!

I read in main thread that 60% of shares goes to members. I am member and by what right not asking me you took my share and gave it to someone else? What kind of compensation is it? When thief is taking your property without your agreement and giving back 5% of it as compensation it is all ok? Cheesy Seriously you see it justified? o_O Good joke.

Quote from: koop4u
After the deadline the difference in coins ( stake - 20k) were distributed to the full-fledged members in the spreadsheet! To which the community agreed!
So these minority of most active members had more rights than others who payed the same money to join distribution? That's how you see equality between members? There are more and less equal like in Soviet Union?

Which community agreed for it? You didn't ask me bro. And how many others didn't you ask too?

Quote from: koop4u
So basically there are no extra coins for him to receive in order to make a full stake!
So basically you are a thief who don't want to accept his own mistakes because of which there are no coins. No problem for you right? Nothing happened, let's forget him. But it is here. Now. And i'm not going anywhere. Dill with it. Accept your fault because it won't disappear before you start accepting reality and making up for your mistakes.

I'm waiting for my property not going anywhere. If i won't be able to respond more than it means someone had muted me here.

Here is my account nr 14455171584219972584
It is empty and waiting few months for my righfull share from this unjust distribution.

Can someone check date of creation of my account? Let's show how long it is waiting.  


Always someone else's fault: the weather, the government, relatives, friends ... koop ...  Roll Eyes
Take responsibility, bro!  Wink
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October 26, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
I don't think he will buy some nodes. Just a question : how much did you pay for your "stake" ?
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October 26, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
I will not comment on everything you wrote but I personally hate how you address people and the developers.
Of course it is sad that you did not get your coins and that they were "robbed". If you did not care to have a look at your "investment" for month, you should help you?
You expect them to run after everyone although there were month to check the threats and your "investment".

I of course can not decide what the developers should do about that and whether the coins are still yours or "robbed" but as you showed only disrespect and hate against everyone here I do not think that you made friends here that support you.
Just think about that and buy some Node now that they are cheap ;-)
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October 26, 2014, 01:14:00 PM
I'm waiting what Skillroad will say for this way of treating members you owe rightfull share.

whitecloud If someone payed for share his right is not disappearing only because someone had decide himself without asking to change rules. And yes these coins should have waited as long as needed but it was robbed instead. And if you have taken part of them you didn't pay for than you are also responsible for this robbery and you owe money to these robbed. Think about it.

You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
It doesn't matter if he's an active member or not. When we paid for our stake there was neither a rule like "be active member" or "check the thread at least once a week" or anything else like that. Just give this guy HIS stake and all is good.  Roll Eyes

But you are wrong. There are these coins because each of members count. And it is you who stolen all coins of people who paed for them. They still have right to get them. And you personally are in dept. You are no better than guy who stole coins of mintpal bro.

The way how you treat members of community, initial investors is showing what is level of trust for this coin.

Thanks bro.
That's exactly the kind of discrimination showing who is responsible for future of this project.

I would have these coins if YOU would not forget to read what active members are writing and was doing properly your job.
Ignore me, break my rights but it changing nothing. It only affects badly reputation of coin because everyone can read how it was now and see how you treat members.
  

Quote from: koop4u
The 20k rule was proposed for this kind of situations and others! The distribution was made on active deployed account numbers! In it was critically important, that the accounts were in place, so the distribution can start!
So it was made to not pay coins to people who should get it since they payed for it! Incredible!

If someone joined and payed you had his nick on BTT to contact him. You didn't contact none of these people. It wa better to ignore them and play on time to get rid of them huh. You were just lazy and didn't do your job properly or wanted bigger share on cost of these lost members.

So many changes of rules were insane and only was harming whole distribution process. People waited and waited, lokking and looking, threads were changing, new websides created but you didn't look there to read what people were writing there.

If i would know there was some other thread and that i need to repeat what is my new account nr also in some other thread and third time on PM (since after posting old acc number koop didn't add it) you think i wouldn't do it? I was very active in first months but how long can person keep waiting? Normal person write one time and stick to rules he read but not here, that distribution was different and you didn't give a shit about initial members and robbed them of coins and promised share!

Quote from: koop4u
The community was informed and everyone was ok with it! Not to mention that that there was an 2 months of account submission deadline! Which was in my opinion enough to check if your account was or not added to the spreadsheet!

Guess what it wasn't as you see. I was and still am on the list. How many such accounts you have there? Was it a problem to ask on PM?
I posted account number but you simply didn't read it. So is it my fault or yours koop? 2 months was too short to read it?

You wrote to me on PM today that NXTL.EU forum was only for short time and that it was closed because it couldn't be checked if someone is writing there true informations. I agree you have a point here.

But problem is i wrote there also my BTT account link for contact to prove what i was writting there was made by me. Did you read it, checked by writing me PM here? You didn't. So again this argument is invalid because if you create a forum you should pay attention to it and you ignored it.
 

Quote from: koop4u
After the deadline, there was a calculation presented which specifically said: that late accounts will receive 20k nodes to compensate the late users( that might wake up who knows when) and for the risk of omitting sockpuppets!

I read in main thread that 60% of shares goes to members. I am member and by what right not asking me you took my share and gave it to someone else? What kind of compensation is it? When thief is taking your property without your agreement and giving back 5% of it as compensation it is all ok? Cheesy Seriously you see it justified? o_O Good joke.

Quote from: koop4u
After the deadline the difference in coins ( stake - 20k) were distributed to the full-fledged members in the spreadsheet! To which the community agreed!
So these minority of most active members had more rights than others who payed the same money to join distribution? That's how you see equality between members? There are more and less equal like in Soviet Union?

Which community agreed for it? You didn't ask me bro. And how many others didn't you ask too?

Quote from: koop4u
So basically there are no extra coins for him to receive in order to make a full stake!
So basically you are a thief who don't want to accept his own mistakes because of which there are no coins. No problem for you right? Nothing happened, let's forget him. But it is here. Now. And i'm not going anywhere. Dill with it. Accept your fault because it won't disappear before you start accepting reality and making up for your mistakes.

I'm waiting for my property not going anywhere. If i won't be able to respond more than it means someone had muted me here.

Here is my account nr 14455171584219972584
It is empty and waiting few months for my righfull share from this unjust distribution.

Can someone check date of creation of my account? Let's show how long it is waiting.  
sr. member
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October 26, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
It doesn't matter if he's an active member or not. When we paid for our stake there was neither a rule like "be active member" or "check the thread at least once a week" or anything else like that. Just give this guy HIS stake and all is good.  Roll Eyes

Joke, right?
There must be a time limit, otherwise someone would come over 1 year or 10 years to say that has not got the money!

Take responsibility, people!
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October 26, 2014, 11:26:37 AM
You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
It doesn't matter if he's an active member or not. When we paid for our stake there was neither a rule like "be active member" or "check the thread at least once a week" or anything else like that. Just give this guy HIS stake and all is good.  Roll Eyes

Not exactly right!

The 20k rule was proposed for this kind of situations and others! The distribution was made on active deployed account numbers! In it was critically important, that the accounts were in place, so the distribution can start!

The community was informed and everyone was ok with it! Not to mention that that there was an 2 months of account submission deadline! Which was in my opinion enough to check if your account was or not added to the spreadsheet!

After the deadline, there was a calculation presented which specifically said: that late accounts will receive 20k nodes to compensate the late users( that might wake up who knows when) and for the risk of omitting sockpuppets!

After the deadline the difference in coins ( stake - 20k) were distributed to the full-fledged members in the spreadsheet! To which the community agreed!

So basically there are no extra coins for him to receive in order to make a full stake!






hero member
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October 26, 2014, 11:11:30 AM
You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
It doesn't matter if he's an active member or not. When we paid for our stake there was neither a rule like "be active member" or "check the thread at least once a week" or anything else like that. Just give this guy HIS stake and all is good.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Merit: 250
October 26, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
You are a member of the shareholder list, but not a real member of the comunity. You had months no interest on NODE / NXTL and crying now. As an active member of the comunity you would have your Nodes a long time, like the others.
full member
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October 26, 2014, 10:54:14 AM
So you don't care if somebody who is a member of community from the start and on the list of full members won't get promised share just because his post asking for adding new account number on official forum NXTL.EU was ignored.

Than stay happy with your coins which you got because you sit few months checking if your rights will be fullfilled and that you won't be ignored without looking at others who didn't have such luck.  

Be happy also for accepting stealing of coins not only from me but also from all other people confused by too many threads and not having proper information what is where and when and not in the promised time and way.
sr. member
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October 26, 2014, 10:45:45 AM
patmast3r you said i should have send message to koop4u. I sent him message yesterday and he didn't answer it. He also isn't answering what i wrote here.

koop4u did you read what i wrote? Check your PMs and read what i wrote higher. I'm waiting.

I'm now 68 on the list with my NXTL/Node account 14455171584219972584 (the same which i posted on NXTL.EU page asking you to add me on the list).
On previous list i was on 888 place with old account nr 18422640818891561749 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6221283) and then you also forget at first add me and i needed to interven.

At first thread there is written something about "Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. " so i want to check now how much truth was in these words. Waiting for my 598 894 coins as i have the same rights as other members investors.




This thread is from 30th of April with the title "NxT Lite", then the title chanched at 1th of june to "NODE aka NXTL" until end of Juli. 3 Months with "NXTL" in the title and you didn't find it? You have forgotten your "NXTL" and now you are crying like a baby and blames the other. Wait until the response of koop4u or stay away. Nobody other can help you.
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October 26, 2014, 09:07:20 AM
patmast3r you said i should have send message to koop4u. I sent him message yesterday and he didn't answer it. He also isn't answering what i wrote here.

koop4u did you read what i wrote? Check your PMs and read what i wrote higher. I'm waiting.

I'm now 68 on the list with my NXTL/Node account 14455171584219972584 (the same which i posted on NXTL.EU page asking you to add me on the list).
On previous list i was on 888 place with old account nr 18422640818891561749 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6221283) and then you also forget at first add me and i needed to interven.

At first thread there is written something about "Completely Fair Distribution †
No arbitrary rule of distribution. " so i want to check now how much truth was in these words. Waiting for my 598 894 coins as i have the same rights as other members investors.


sr. member
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October 26, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
I missed testing
when will the new testing

the poa testnet is still deployed, use the provided account number to test it!

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