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September 20, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: visual111
then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying

I think visual111 hit the nail on the head.

Transparency.

That's what is lacking with the developers of Node.


Oh boy, Visual111 sure did hit the nail on the head! You two should be cryptocurrency consultants or something.

Transparency is definitely lacking! For goodness sake, the Node devs haven't posted an update on this thread in 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where is the whitepaper and roadmap? Oh wait...

TLDR version:

You are an imbecile.

Imbecile, eh?  Attacking others over constructive criticism?

I see a lot of questions and concerns that come up in this thread, and the devs don't appear to address them.  To me, that is lack of transparency.


You are absolutely right! Rather than working on the wallet, getting on exchanges, writing whitepapers and roadmaps and planning what could be the "Ukranian Paypal", the devs should focus their efforts on answering trivial questions on the Bitcointalk forum. LOL

Why You Should Immediately Fire Problem Customers
http://successwise.com/why-you-should-immediately-fire-problem-customers

And... I'm out.  Maybe I'll get back in later but people seem to be disappointed in the whitepaper, and the market's reflecting that.  Maybe this will go somewhere.  Too bad no one answered my basic question pages ago of when this coin would be going to Bittrex.  Oh well.  Good luck everyone.

And as dawj20 pointed out, the basic question which wasn't answered "pages ago" not only appeared on the exact same page but in fact, was only posted 2.5 hours earlier. The devs don't respond to someone in the middle of the night and for that reason they are out. Absolutely classic.

Just stick to your plan Node devs, you are doing great. Like Taylor Swift's song says: "Haters going to hate, fakers going to fake, I'm just gonna shake it off, shake it off"  Grin
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September 20, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.

Plz point me to the post where you've been personaly attacked ?
There are no details because we don't even have the details. Unlike others we don't release shit premature.
you turned in a really troll, shit is a coin without nothing only words and tokens. you need focus in your coin and stop fud and attack NODE months ago and you only want attack NODE i really want know why ... Nem team is so cool, anyone remember utopianfuture ? Hmmm stop spread fud the past of nem is not very good.
sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 10:09:29 AM

TLDR version (!): 4 months.

"Although it still needs updates and upgrades, polishing and waxing we are ready to involve you in the next 4 months of our commitment."
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 10:07:19 AM
A thing is asking technical things like patmast3r does and another very different is... blablabla no technical whitepaper! wanna technical! my d**k is more technical than your!.. fud, troll way like another people do.

Anyway. Regarding the price. New dolphins and whales are getting interested and they are trying to buy cheap before NODE goes to anothers exchanges and price manipulation become difficult. At the same time u r scared thx to fuders and trolls. Meanwhile negotiations with exchanges are being done. When NODE goes live to more and more exchanges price will go up and price manipulation to push down (in order to buy more and more cheap NODE) will be much more difficult to do.

Anyway i think is really healthy to keep the price around 100-150 even 200 satoshis now... why? Because that way more people invest and the u$er (and pay attention when i say "u$er" and not "user") base become wider. Otherwise they will feel like they lost the boat. So it's good. be patient.

Don't let the trolls scare you. And if u have to sell just set a sell order.. dont drop your coins.. and if you wanna buy just set a buy order and maybe u get lucky and some panic seller dump into your buy orders.

Meanwhile alibaba ipo will pass.. bitcoin price will stabilize and retake a bull trend and cryptos will pass the turbulences. Token sell will be over.. Unity will start to be traded. Supernet will start to move forward and well.. think by yourself.

Things must be measured in weeks/months even years in this cases and not days or hours like some trolls, fuders try to make people believe.

For the guys with copy/paste problem: Download the 0.0.9 client and try again.. because i have that client and i just did copy paste and it's working.
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September 20, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.

Plz point me to the post where you've been personaly attacked ?
There are no details because we don't even have the details. Unlike others we don't release shit premature.
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: visual111
then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying

I think visual111 hit the nail on the head.

Transparency.

That's what is lacking with the developers of Node.


Oh boy, Visual111 sure did hit the nail on the head! You two should be cryptocurrency consultants or something.

Transparency is definitely lacking! For goodness sake, the Node devs haven't posted an update on this thread in 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where is the whitepaper and roadmap? Oh wait...

TLDR version:

You are an imbecile.
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 09:20:21 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
I was pressing for details about NEM's fast exchange they keep talking about and was personally attacked in the NEM forum and that wasn't the first time either.
sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 08:55:20 AM
Windows Client V.0.8 won't accept cut n paste passphrase, is this a problem my end or with the client?

I got that too. It makes logging in a very protracted process.

It works for me with ctrl+V
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 08:54:39 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes


some of you don't seem to understand the grave you're digging by blindly fervently a coin that is still technically weak. you are building up a hype where there shouldn't be any. when people see this thread, they get excited and want to invest right away! little do they know that this coin shouldn't have even been launched (in my opinion). once they figure this out, they dump and stay away permanently.

then there are threads that I follow like BTCD/NEM/BBR where technical discussions are often taking place. these are the coins with the greatest potential because the community questions the developers and this provides a transparency to what the devs are doing. Here, this is the total opposite. Devs are quiet and hard to understand. 70% of posts are "to the moon" type.

if this coin falls, it is because of the weak community that calls FUD/troll when people ask questions about the project. this cannot continue to happen if node is going to succeed.

i hope the community understands what i am saying



The NODE whitepaper was very transparent and concise vs the NXT paper, even though it was technical - they failed to comment on the unfair distribution! ! NXT is an elaborate ponzi scam. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Smiley

what does unfair distribution mean to you?

NXT distributed the same way NODE did
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
September 20, 2014, 08:39:31 AM
Windows Client V.0.8 won't accept cut n paste passphrase, is this a problem my end or with the client?

I got that too. It makes logging in a very protracted process.
newbie
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September 20, 2014, 08:38:29 AM
Windows Client V.0.8 won't accept cut n paste passphrase, is this a problem my end or with the client?
sr. member
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hero member
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September 20, 2014, 08:16:44 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes

Not true at all. There's a huge overlap between the NEM and NODE community which is why some of us are interested and if there are questions  - we'll ask them. If there is something to say - we'll say it. I'm not actually a core dev but that's how I see it.
This is actually very healthy for a community. The last thread i remember that was all positiv and delusional was NAS - and we all no where that went to.  

The fact is that NODE is not finished, therefore the whitepaper is not finisehd and the whitepaper states that.
sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
i just think ALL NEM devs hate NODE  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 08:05:49 AM
Whitepaper is extremely vague and English is horrible.

Lol.. english is horrible and estonian? is also horrible? What did you expect? A technical explanation from a dev point of view?
It was supposed to be this way. It's for normal users. Not for an expert like you who can see the matrix.

A whitepaper is typically a "a technical explanation from a dev point of view". This "whitepaper" is a high-level abstract at best.

Hi Jaguar,

Please direct me to a cryptocurrency which, in your opinion, has published a proper whitepaper.


http://www.nxtcommunity.org/nxt-whitepaper


Node paper is lacking technical content. if i can understand it, then it is a weak paper

Yea, the NXT whitepaper is a good example.
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 06:43:58 AM
when r u gonna release linux and mac wallets ? i rarely use Windows

~CfA~
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September 20, 2014, 06:29:47 AM
People are quick to yell out troll when they hear price speculation that doesn't appeal to them.  I'm tapped out of BTC and only way I can acquire more (unless I spent real world $Fiat) is to sell my other coins, so I can't really benefit from the price going down.  More like I am identifying a problem and solutions should be presented.

Price is going down and staying low because weak hands are still selling, NODE is unknown and then other potential mishaps can occur.  We could wake up one morning and find out that NODE has some severe security vulnerability or the developers ran off to the Odessa goat market with all our shekels.  Of course this can happen to any alternate so it's not really fair to single out NODE for it.

NODE price will go up when userbase is expanded and the initial weak hands sell off (who acquired their NODE stake for free or under $50).  

Bitcointalk is really a small place (to an extent) as is Reddit and some other websites.

If you look at something like Stellar - they only had to give out trivial amounts to Facebookers, get a few angel investors and that gave them a lot of publicity for a short while and today they're slowly growing more and more.

NODE has an opportunity that most coins don't have (not even BTC and not even Moskal Crypti), mainly that it's an Eastern European development team in a crypto-friendly country (Ukraine is very friendly whereas Russia is not) and they can push for adoption in Eastern Europe (not to be region centric of course but if you can get the wheels greased in Eastern Europe then you're likely to get attention from Asia and Western Europe too).







agree, publicity/promotion is decisive for the success of any altcoin
sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
Okay So I have a few question after reading the whitepaper.

How does the network protect against sybil attacks ?
It seems to me that i can get a load of confirmation if i set up a load of malicous nodes.

Is it really true that the node that is about for forge broadcasts this intention to the network ?
This sounds to me as if the node is screaming "Hey - pleas DDoS me" Smiley Is this really safe ?

So the uptime is calculated from the time the nodes coms online first at which points he broadcasts to the network.
What if he broadcasts a bogus date or time ? Are there any limits ? is the networktime syncronized ?

In the Node will be put in the black list of IP that make invalid requests
For the time will follow starting Peers and other clients then they will consider real-time connection. After all, when you first start the client, all clients are aware of the time of each client. Before generating block network checks the validity of his time


But doesn't that mean that all confirmations are worthless anyway until my own node confirmed it it's put in a block ?
What if i make 2 tx of my entire balance and have my army of evil nodes spam confirmations directly to both receivers ?

I really don't mean to degrade NODE or anything. Just trying to understand.

The Network won't pass an invalid transaction, as well as an invalid block won't be add added in the right client!
Your intentional malicious network will exist only in the corrupted nodes that you'll set up! It won't pass further!
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September 20, 2014, 06:16:35 AM
Okay So I have a few question after reading the whitepaper.

How does the network protect against sybil attacks ?
It seems to me that i can get a load of confirmation if i set up a load of malicous nodes.

Is it really true that the node that is about for forge broadcasts this intention to the network ?
This sounds to me as if the node is screaming "Hey - pleas DDoS me" Smiley Is this really safe ?

So the uptime is calculated from the time the nodes coms online first at which points he broadcasts to the network.
What if he broadcasts a bogus date or time ? Are there any limits ? is the networktime syncronized ?

In the Node will be put in the black list of IP that make invalid requests
For the time will follow starting Peers and other clients then they will consider real-time connection. After all, when you first start the client, all clients are aware of the time of each client. Before generating block network checks the validity of his time


But doesn't that mean that all confirmations are worthless anyway until my own node confirmed it it's put in a block ?
What if i make 2 tx of my entire balance and have my army of evil nodes spam confirmations directly to both receivers ?

I really don't mean to degrade NODE or anything. Just trying to understand.
hero member
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September 20, 2014, 06:14:45 AM
People are quick to yell out troll when they hear price speculation that doesn't appeal to them.  I'm tapped out of BTC and only way I can acquire more (unless I spent real world $Fiat) is to sell my other coins, so I can't really benefit from the price going down.  More like I am identifying a problem and solutions should be presented.

Price is going down and staying low because weak hands are still selling, NODE is unknown and then other potential mishaps can occur.  We could wake up one morning and find out that NODE has some severe security vulnerability or the developers ran off to the Odessa goat market with all our shekels.  Of course this can happen to any alternate so it's not really fair to single out NODE for it.

NODE price will go up when userbase is expanded and the initial weak hands sell off (who acquired their NODE stake for free or under $50).  

Bitcointalk is really a small place (to an extent) as is Reddit and some other websites.

If you look at something like Stellar - they only had to give out trivial amounts to Facebookers, get a few angel investors and that gave them a lot of publicity for a short while and today they're slowly growing more and more.

NODE has an opportunity that most coins don't have (not even BTC and not even Moscow Crypti), mainly that it's an Eastern European development team in a crypto-friendly country (Ukraine is very friendly whereas Russia is not) and they can push for adoption in Eastern Europe (not to be region centric of course but if you can get the wheels greased in Eastern Europe then you're likely to get attention from Asia and Western Europe too).





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