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full member
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May 27, 2014, 06:14:46 AM
I can't go into  goo.gl/gYzBHl check and have already registered for investment ,  I enter  http://5.9.123.114:19775/, input 10 characters, why didn't web response? help me plase,thx.
Dev. to 10 characters is? Any irrelevant person can create account?
hero member
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May 27, 2014, 05:37:33 AM
+1 to closed IPO to get thing going.
legendary
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May 27, 2014, 04:23:29 AM
I think this 'closed' IPO (100 shares) among current users is the best option

Closed IPO is a great idea. We can't move on until IPO is "kinda closed, but we're short on cash, so it's not actually closed, but, you know, kind off, well..."

Yeah just allow users to buy a 2nd stake if they want it. Like people have said before, it's going to be mostly puppets buying anyway so might as well just make it above board.

Yeah I would like to buy another stake, and don't want to create a sockpuppetaccount, so would be nice DEV, if we can buy 2 or 3 stakes.

People also check out Qora: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.1560 The New 2ND GEN coin!!
sr. member
Activity: 392
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May 27, 2014, 04:07:20 AM
I think this 'closed' IPO (100 shares) among current users is the best option

Closed IPO is a great idea. We can't move on until IPO is "kinda closed, but we're short on cash, so it's not actually closed, but, you know, kind off, well..."

Yeah just allow users to buy a 2nd stake if they want it. Like people have said before, it's going to be mostly puppets buying anyway so might as well just make it above board.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
May 27, 2014, 04:05:49 AM
I think this 'closed' IPO (100 shares) among current users is the best option

Closed IPO is a great idea. We can't move on until IPO is "kinda closed, but we're short on cash, so it's not actually closed, but, you know, kind off, well..."
legendary
Activity: 2124
Merit: 1013
K-ing®
May 27, 2014, 03:59:54 AM
@ everyone!

Thank you for your thoughts!

I personally hate the fact, that there is a devision going on! It is like the Members vs The Devs!... guys we are a force together! Team work is the only way to deal with this!


ok, some information was misinterpreted! In order to launch the coin, we still need a total of 3.5 btc. We can cover the 25btc from the stakes in the future, as dzarmush and others proposed! We are fine with that, as long as we have your support!

We didn't intend to launch the coin with (usd, euro integration). This part takes its time to be fulfilled.

But how to deal with the current expenses, it is a dead lock! Withought 100 stakes we can't finish the coin project!

A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!

I would like to hear your opinion about this!



P.S. @ randombit, "food" really dude?! From all that post you've concluded that food is our priority?! ...so disappointing

Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project! - i'm fine with that

or

you can do ''IPO'' among current stockholders, and offer them to buy second share

I think this 'closed' IPO (100 shares) among current users is the best option
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
May 27, 2014, 03:59:37 AM
@ everyone!

Thank you for your thoughts!

I personally hate the fact, that there is a devision going on! It is like the Members vs The Devs!... guys we are a force together! Team work is the only way to deal with this!


ok, some information was misinterpreted! In order to launch the coin, we still need a total of 3.5 btc. We can cover the 25btc from the stakes in the future, as dzarmush and others proposed! We are fine with that, as long as we have your support!

We didn't intend to launch the coin with (usd, euro integration). This part takes its time to be fulfilled.

But how to deal with the current expenses, it is a dead lock! Withought 100 stakes we can't finish the coin project!

A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!

I would like to hear your opinion about this!



P.S. @ randombit, "food" really dude?! From all that post you've concluded that food is our priority?! ...so disappointing

Maybe u can try to sell this extra to all the investor include those who are already in the list.
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May 27, 2014, 03:58:05 AM
A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!


I'd say #1. Let's put 100 stakes at extra IPO stage for a week and raise 3.5 btc. Man, I'm ready to buy all those freaking stakes right now just to finish this... umm... misunderstanding, and move on. I hope the community will support it and help to raise extra 4-5 BTC.

But we want to know particular plans, not just thoughts.

Like:
1. IPO is closed. Ta-da! 500M goes to investors.
2. Auction is opened. Ta-da! Send your bitcoins to this address and we will distribute 100 stakes between auction investors.
3. Launch date is XX:XX:2014


If an auction should open, it would surely be good to remove a bit of "flashy" from the web client and present something that shows only the completly working parts.

Flashy attracted whomever it could.

I'm sure a whole bunch of investors was turned of by the staffage on the web client. I was at first. So many buttons that just do nothing. It's hard to see there is actually something working in the background.
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May 27, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
pm'd Silkroad, no response:

btt user: zuqka
#783
New Account: 1228838829818813837
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
May 27, 2014, 03:51:08 AM
A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!


I'd say #1. Let's put 100 stakes at extra IPO stage for a week and raise 3.5 btc. Man, I'm ready to buy all those freaking stakes right now just to finish this... umm... misunderstanding, and move on. I hope the community will support it and help to raise extra 4-5 BTC.

But we want to know particular plans, not just thoughts.

Like:
1. IPO is closed. Ta-da! 500M goes to investors.
2. Auction is opened. Ta-da! Send your bitcoins to this address and we will distribute 100 stakes between auction investors.
3. Launch date is XX:XX:2014
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
May 27, 2014, 02:50:12 AM
@ everyone!

Thank you for your thoughts!

I personally hate the fact, that there is a devision going on! It is like the Members vs The Devs!... guys we are a force together! Team work is the only way to deal with this!


ok, some information was misinterpreted! In order to launch the coin, we still need a total of 3.5 btc. We can cover the 25btc from the stakes in the future, as dzarmush and others proposed! We are fine with that, as long as we have your support!

We didn't intend to launch the coin with (usd, euro integration). This part takes its time to be fulfilled.

But how to deal with the current expenses, it is a dead lock! Withought 100 stakes we can't finish the coin project!

A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!

I would like to hear your opinion about this!



P.S. @ randombit, "food" really dude?! From all that post you've concluded that food is our priority?! ...so disappointing

I think most of us are fine with the extra 100 investors, it would not reduce everyone's stake obviously.
Maybe the launch time is the most concern. If we can finish the 3.5 btc IPO in a very short time, I think people will accept it.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
May 27, 2014, 02:41:23 AM
Ok, at least now we can see some sort of dialogue. Here are some thoughts:

1. I really don't think it's possible to reach even 2000. Maximum you can do is 1500 and 50% of them will be puppets.
2. I do understand that you need money to cover different expenses.

Let's start from bad news )
Everybody who wanted to have a stake already bought in. Auction won't help to raise any money at this point. Why would someone pay 0.1-0.5 Btc for a stake on such auction if everybody already bought stakes for 0.02-0.05. As for NXTL/USD,EURO. Let's face it. You'll never gather 25 BTC if you continue going this way. You're making people very unhappy, everybody just loses hope. People were waiting for May 25, they were excited. Now they feel cheated.

How I'd try to solve it.
1. Announce that IPO is overa and 500M coins will be distributed between 1200 accounts.
2. Launch fully operated Beta and announce the launch on, say, July 1st.
3. Auction 50 stakes. Some people would buy stakes at least at 0.2-0.4 if they're sure the coin will be launched soon. I myself will be several stakes. In this case you'll gather 10-20 Btc.
4. Launch the coin without NXTL/USD,EURO gateway. Don't try to do everything. It's a wrong way.
5. After the launch price will be at least 0.5-1 btc for 1M. Sell 30M and finish development.

+1

your's plan is great.
Devs, you don't need to implement USD & EUR exchange on relase date for this good coin.
You can do it later.

Announce the launch date, and 48hrs before do the auction for 50-100 stakes

If you continue moving the IPO end date...... some investors will go away

We never sad, that Euro in USD will implemented on the release. It was a misinterpretation!
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
May 27, 2014, 02:37:54 AM
@ everyone!

Thank you for your thoughts!

I personally hate the fact, that there is a devision going on! It is like the Members vs The Devs!... guys we are a force together! Team work is the only way to deal with this!


ok, some information was misinterpreted! In order to launch the coin, we still need a total of 3.5 btc. We can cover the 25btc from the stakes in the future, as dzarmush and others proposed! We are fine with that, as long as we have your support!

We didn't intend to launch the coin with (usd, euro integration). This part takes its time to be fulfilled.

But how to deal with the current expenses, it is a dead lock! Withought 100 stakes we can't finish the coin project!

A few ideas popped up:

1) Have an auction, to reach this cap. and finish the project!
2) Continue the ipo, till we reach this goal!
3) Borrow from someone!

I would like to hear your opinion about this!



P.S. @ randombit, "food" really dude?! From all that post you've concluded that food is our priority?! ...so disappointing
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
May 27, 2014, 02:33:08 AM
I'm ok if the dev team want to keep some NXTL as funds.
And I think this is the right way to cover all the costs, waiting for more investors is not wisdom.
legendary
Activity: 2124
Merit: 1013
K-ing®
May 27, 2014, 02:30:21 AM
Ok, at least now we can see some sort of dialogue. Here are some thoughts:

1. I really don't think it's possible to reach even 2000. Maximum you can do is 1500 and 50% of them will be puppets.
2. I do understand that you need money to cover different expenses.

Let's start from bad news )
Everybody who wanted to have a stake already bought in. Auction won't help to raise any money at this point. Why would someone pay 0.1-0.5 Btc for a stake on such auction if everybody already bought stakes for 0.02-0.05. As for NXTL/USD,EURO. Let's face it. You'll never gather 25 BTC if you continue going this way. You're making people very unhappy, everybody just loses hope. People were waiting for May 25, they were excited. Now they feel cheated.

How I'd try to solve it.
1. Announce that IPO is overa and 500M coins will be distributed between 1200 accounts.
2. Launch fully operated Beta and announce the launch on, say, July 1st.
3. Auction 50 stakes. Some people would buy stakes at least at 0.2-0.4 if they're sure the coin will be launched soon. I myself will be several stakes. In this case you'll gather 10-20 Btc.
4. Launch the coin without NXTL/USD,EURO gateway. Don't try to do everything. It's a wrong way.
5. After the launch price will be at least 0.5-1 btc for 1M. Sell 30M and finish development.

+1

your's plan is great.
Devs, you don't need to implement USD & EUR exchange on relase date for this good coin.
You can do it later.

Announce the launch date, and 48hrs before do the auction for 50-100 stakes

If you continue moving the IPO end date...... some investors will go away
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
May 27, 2014, 02:20:58 AM
Ok, at least now we can see some sort of dialogue. Here are some thoughts:

1. I really don't think it's possible to reach even 2000. Maximum you can do is 1500 and 50% of them will be puppets.
2. I do understand that you need money to cover different expenses.

Let's start from bad news )
Everybody who wanted to have a stake already bought in. Auction won't help to raise any money at this point. Why would someone pay 0.1-0.5 Btc for a stake on such auction if everybody already bought stakes for 0.02-0.05. As for NXTL/USD,EURO. Let's face it. You'll never gather 25 BTC if you continue going this way. You're making people very unhappy, everybody just loses hope. People were waiting for May 25, they were excited. Now they feel cheated.

How I'd try to solve it.
1. Announce that IPO is overa and 500M coins will be distributed between 1200 accounts.
2. Launch fully operated Beta and announce the launch on, say, July 1st.
3. Auction 50 stakes. Some people would buy stakes at least at 0.2-0.4 if they're sure the coin will be launched soon. I myself will be several stakes. In this case you'll gather 10-20 Btc.
4. Launch the coin without NXTL/USD,EURO gateway. Don't try to do everything. It's a wrong way.
5. After the launch price will be at least 0.5-1 btc for 1M. Sell 30M and finish development.

Can agree more..A better solution to NXTL funding problem
hero member
Activity: 617
Merit: 528
May 27, 2014, 02:06:46 AM
More bonus points for Dzarmush, a positive and constructive solution for both parties.

You can't really continue raising funds like no deadline was ever mentioned. Not sure people will buy it. Not sure if I buy it. If you look at it from our perspective: we can't know whether you'll actually produce a beta in the first place.
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10
May 26, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
Ok, at least now we can see some sort of dialogue. Here are some thoughts:

1. I really don't think it's possible to reach even 2000. Maximum you can do is 1500 and 50% of them will be puppets.
2. I do understand that you need money to cover different expenses.

Let's start from bad news )
Everybody who wanted to have a stake already bought in. Auction won't help to raise any money at this point. Why would someone pay 0.1-0.5 Btc for a stake on such auction if everybody already bought stakes for 0.02-0.05. As for NXTL/USD,EURO. Let's face it. You'll never gather 25 BTC if you continue going this way. You're making people very unhappy, everybody just loses hope. People were waiting for May 25, they were excited. Now they feel cheated.

How I'd try to solve it.
1. Announce that IPO is overa and 500M coins will be distributed between 1200 accounts.
2. Launch fully operated Beta and announce the launch on, say, July 1st.
3. Auction 50 stakes. Some people would buy stakes at least at 0.2-0.4 if they're sure the coin will be launched soon. I myself will be several stakes. In this case you'll gather 10-20 Btc.
4. Launch the coin without NXTL/USD,EURO gateway. Don't try to do everything. It's a wrong way.
5. After the launch price will be at least 0.5-1 btc for 1M. Sell 30M and finish development.

dzarmush, you are the man with the plan. These are very good suggestions.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
May 26, 2014, 09:22:21 PM
You need to study the IPOs of qoracoin and other coins. Keeping 40% coins for devs and IPO the rest and launch. You should have no problem to sell some coins to raise 25 btc for food after the launch. You will be surprised how much btc you can raise as long as you don't dump too many and have a working software. You can continue the developing after launch and the price will go up as you make progress.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
May 26, 2014, 08:53:41 PM
Ok, at least now we can see some sort of dialogue. Here are some thoughts:

1. I really don't think it's possible to reach even 2000. Maximum you can do is 1500 and 50% of them will be puppets.
2. I do understand that you need money to cover different expenses.

Let's start from bad news )
Everybody who wanted to have a stake already bought in. Auction won't help to raise any money at this point. Why would someone pay 0.1-0.5 Btc for a stake on such auction if everybody already bought stakes for 0.02-0.05. As for NXTL/USD,EURO. Let's face it. You'll never gather 25 BTC if you continue going this way. You're making people very unhappy, everybody just loses hope. People were waiting for May 25, they were excited. Now they feel cheated.

How I'd try to solve it.
1. Announce that IPO is overa and 500M coins will be distributed between 1200 accounts.
2. Launch fully operated Beta and announce the launch on, say, July 1st.
3. Auction 50 stakes. Some people would buy stakes at least at 0.2-0.4 if they're sure the coin will be launched soon. I myself will be several stakes. In this case you'll gather 10-20 Btc.
4. Launch the coin without NXTL/USD,EURO gateway. Don't try to do everything. It's a wrong way.
5. After the launch price will be at least 0.5-1 btc for 1M. Sell 30M and finish development.
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